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Re: Back From the Game Birmingham

by Man Friday » 09 Nov 2011 12:51

knobby_1871 Just watched the highlights on BBC site and Le Fondre goes mental when he is not played in when Jobi misses, would love to have heard what he said and Notgoodenuff's explanation :) http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/15626881.stm

I've looked at the clip several times and there's no way Notgoodenuff could have played the ball to either of the two players alongside him. At the point when he had the "choice" there were defenders around those players. Any sensible player would have shot himself in those circumstances. Itwas only after the shot was delivered that the players looked sufficiently free to have received a pass and made something of it. It's just a shame that the shot was lame. It needed more power and a bit of height.

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Re: Back From the Game Birmingham

by If you still hate Futcher » 09 Nov 2011 13:01

Given the position he was in I wouldn't expect McAnuff (or anyone else for that matter) to try and pass it but it needed to be put in the far corner so, should the keeper get something on it, the players running in have a chance. But fair play to Myhill who stood up and didn't make it easy for Jobi.

Did anyone else get the impression Myhill was carrying a knock (2nd half at least) - he didn't look very mobile and seemed very concerned about one of his ankles.

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Re: Back From the Game Birmingham

by FiNeRaIn » 09 Nov 2011 13:15

Man Friday I've looked at the clip several times and there's no way Notgoodenuff could have played the ball to either of the two players alongside him. At the point when he had the "choice" there were defenders around those players.


Absolutely bullshit at 0.46/0.47 he could simply lay it into alfies path and hes clearly pointing where he wants it. The defender is miles behind him.

Get a pair of glasses.

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Re: Back From the Game Birmingham

by Extended-Phenotype » 09 Nov 2011 13:41

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Extended-Phenotype We have the foundation and the spirit to do well, but we really must address these issues properly instead of sweeping it under the carpet. Yes it’s hard to think about, but what the f/ are we going to do, Brian?


Agree with most of your post - as I always tend to - but it's a bit harsh to blame Brian, who regularly has his best assets sold from under his nose and has to make, do and mend with what is left over.



Yeah, don't think it's gone unnoticed; it arouses me when you do.

Wasn’t meaning to sound like I was blaming Brian, though I do entirely now that I reach the end of this sentence. Didn’t at the start.

I don’t disagree with those that say the ‘double-dm + creative wings’ tactic ISN’T what we’ve been about for some time – but if your wings are from Chicken Base rather than KFC, the tactic is about as useful as a peanut spade. If you have nut allergy. And need to dig something.

Unless it’s your grave, in which case it might be at best ironic.

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Re: Back From the Game Birmingham

by floyd__streete » 09 Nov 2011 13:45

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floyd__streete Agree with most of your post - as I always tend to



Yeah, don't think it's gone unnoticed; it arouses me when you do.


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Re: Back From the Game Birmingham

by melonhead » 09 Nov 2011 14:04

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Extended-Phenotype We have the foundation and the spirit to do well, but we really must address these issues properly instead of sweeping it under the carpet. Yes it’s hard to think about, but what the f/ are we going to do, Brian?


Agree with most of your post - as I always tend to - but it's a bit harsh to blame Brian, who regularly has his best assets sold from under his nose and has to make, do and mend with what is left over.



Yeah, don't think it's gone unnoticed; it arouses me when you do.

Wasn’t meaning to sound like I was blaming Brian, though I do entirely now that I reach the end of this sentence. Didn’t at the start.

I don’t disagree with those that say the ‘double-dm + creative wings’ tactic ISN’T what we’ve been about for some time – but if your wings are from Chicken Base rather than KFC, the tactic is about as useful as a peanut spade. If you have nut allergy. And need to dig something.

Unless it’s your grave, in which case it might be at best ironic.


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Re: Back From the Game Birmingham

by Maguire » 09 Nov 2011 21:26

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Man Friday I've looked at the clip several times and there's no way Notgoodenuff could have played the ball to either of the two players alongside him. At the point when he had the "choice" there were defenders around those players.


Absolutely bullshit at 0.46/0.47 he could simply lay it into alfies path and hes clearly pointing where he wants it. The defender is miles behind him.

Get a pair of glasses.


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Re: Back From the Game Birmingham

by West Stand Man » 10 Nov 2011 20:12

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Man Friday I've looked at the clip several times and there's no way Notgoodenuff could have played the ball to either of the two players alongside him. At the point when he had the "choice" there were defenders around those players.


Absolutely bullshit at 0.46/0.47 he could simply lay it into alfies path and hes clearly pointing where he wants it. The defender is miles behind him.

Get a pair of glasses.



......and he is going at the speed of light without really having gained control of the ball. I have little doubt that shooting was the only realistic option. If he'd tried to finesse it to ALF he'd probably have scuffed it, given the speed he and the ball were going.

The truth is it was a good save. Had it been at the other end we' d not have had too many people on here saying how awful the City player was, rather how well Federici had done to save it.

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Re: Back From the Game Birmingham

by FiNeRaIn » 10 Nov 2011 20:19

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......and he is going at the speed of light without really having gained control of the ball.


the ball is under control..he's taken two touches before he shoots. Are people just making these silly comments before even seeing the clip? About the only good thing mcanuff did was get it under control, top quality first touch and then a composed second touch. As for the save, it was straight at him...but please anything to let Jobi off the hook it seems. It was a bad miss and poor awareness to not slip in alfie for an easier chance..thats really the cut and dry.


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Re: Back From the Game Birmingham

by If you still hate Futcher » 10 Nov 2011 23:16

He was through on the keeper with a good angle - 9/10 footballers would shoot in that position whilst the 1/10 would be applauded for their unselfishness. Credit Jobi for having the courage to take it on but his shooting so far this season has been woeful (exhibit A: the, ahem, freeekick that went for a throw)

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Re: Back From the Game Birmingham

by sandman » 11 Nov 2011 11:27

Right in front of me and he should've passed it.

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Re: Back From the Game Birmingham

by melonhead » 11 Nov 2011 12:42

me too, but i can see why he didnt, and sometimes people make mistakes

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Re: Back From the Game Birmingham

by Svlad Cjelli » 11 Nov 2011 12:52

He obviously thought he could score. He was wrong.

But I'm never going to criticise a player for trying something rather than playing it safe - because we're currently playing it safe too far much and not playing enough with the style and confidence that means we take risks.


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Re: Back From the Game Birmingham

by Hoop Blah » 11 Nov 2011 13:13

Svlad Cjelli He obviously thought he could score. He was wrong.

But I'm never going to criticise a player for trying something rather than playing it safe - because we're currently playing it safe too far much and not playing enough with the style and confidence that means we take risks.


Spot on Dirk.

We need a few to stand up and be counted and as a senior player, and skipper, McAnuff is one who needs to do that.

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Re: Back From the Game Birmingham

by FiNeRaIn » 11 Nov 2011 14:17

Thats all well and good and I agree....however standing up is not doing a nicky forster and not looking up when you have players in a better position...then hitting a tame effort at the goalkeeper.

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Re: Back From the Game Birmingham

by Svlad Cjelli » 11 Nov 2011 14:34

FiNeRaIn Thats all well and good and I agree....however standing up is not doing a nicky forster and not looking up when you have players in a better position...then hitting a tame effort at the goalkeeper.


if he was perfect and never made a mistake he'd not be playing for Reading, he'd be playing for Barcelona.

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Re: Back From the Game Birmingham

by FiNeRaIn » 11 Nov 2011 14:40

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FiNeRaIn Thats all well and good and I agree....however standing up is not doing a nicky forster and not looking up when you have players in a better position...then hitting a tame effort at the goalkeeper.


if he was perfect and never made a mistake he'd not be playing for Reading, he'd be playing for Barcelona.


Agreed and he never has been perfect and makes pretty consistent mistakes. He's a 1 in 6 man and he's proven that at every club he's been at which is why he's at a mid-table championship club. No end product. He's been marginally better than kebe this season, but they've both been utter shite.

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Re: Back From the Game Birmingham

by West Stand Man » 11 Nov 2011 18:31

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......and he is going at the speed of light without really having gained control of the ball.


the ball is under control..he's taken two touches before he shoots. Are people just making these silly comments before even seeing the clip? About the only good thing mcanuff did was get it under control, top quality first touch and then a composed second touch. As for the save, it was straight at him...but please anything to let Jobi off the hook it seems. It was a bad miss and poor awareness to not slip in alfie for an easier chance..thats really the cut and dry.



No, I've watched the clip without pre-forming my opinion. HTH.

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Re: Back From the Game Birmingham

by FiNeRaIn » 11 Nov 2011 18:52

HTH? well no...it doesn't help lol.

I saw it live...thought it was a bad miss, watched it again...saw it was a bad miss and that there were options available for an easier chance. So actually I was quite surprised at how bad at was. but anyway.

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Re: Back From the Game Birmingham

by sandman » 11 Nov 2011 19:07

I agree that we need players to try something different but maybe it's not quite the time to do so when two other players have an open goal in front of them.

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