Gary Speed

[who are ya?]

Celebrate what they gave

a Sunday breakfast surprise for the wife and kids?

I don't agree with this!!















It was only his wife who found him

[Royal Rother]

And the descent continues.

[TFF]

And the descent continues.

Well yes, apologies, but as I said earlier in the thread I have no time for suicides.

I'm at the ground waiting to 'mourn' with everyone else. I won't be clapping.

[RobRoyal]

Bit Ironic that we've been asked to clap a bloke who killed himself isnt it?

Only if he'd applauded himself to death, which I don't believe was the case

No I doubt he did. The irony is that you would not normally clap some one who has killed themselves.

Is it so difficult for you and TFF to even entertain the notion of suicidal depression as a mental illness which requires treatment, and can't be attributed to a moral failing any more than suffering from a bodily desease?

Even if you disagree with this idea (and we don't know enough about neuro-psychology to be sure yet), can't you have a look at your statements here and think, Maybe I'll hedge my bets on this one, rather than moralising about dead depressives?

[Para Handy]

Is it so difficult for you and TFF to even entertain the notion of suicidal depression as a mental illness which requires treatment, and can't be attributed to a moral failing any more than suffering from a bodily desease?

Even if you disagree with this idea (and we don't know enough about neuro-psychology to be sure yet), can't you have a look at your statements here and think, Maybe I'll hedge my bets on this one, rather than moralising about dead depressives?

Agreed. Wish I was as fab as those two.

[Para Handy]

Utterly pathetic that this debate is still rumbling on. 20,000 Welsh fans had just found out that a long-time Wales player, and their national team manager, had hanged himself. Small pockets of fans spontaneously applauded during the minutes silence. What the fcuk could possibly be found 'wrong' with that? Jesus.

Good post too.

[Elmer Park]

Touching tributes to Gary Speed last night particularly Churchy raising his armband to the sky which I totally believe was a sincere gesture.

There may be something I don't know about the connection between Gary Speed and Kenny Miller but unless there is Miller's own gesture strikes me as a bit disingenuous and attention seeking. I apologise to Miller if he did have a close connection with Speed.

Amazing coincidence that Reading's two Welsh Internationals both scored last night.

[3 veesinarow]

Even if Miller doesn't have a close personal affinity with Speed, he's playing for a Welsh club in the Welsh capital city and has scored the opening goal of the game minutes after a tribute to the Wales team manager. Why would dedicating that goal to a fellow professional be "disingenuous and attention-seeking" and not simply a mark of respect?

[Elmer Park]

Disingenuous was probably an over strong word for me to use to be fair.

[paultheroyal]

Duncan Ferguson or breath control play - you decide!

[LWJ]

Duncan Ferguson or breath control play - you decide!

Apparently Duncan Ferguson had a 13yr affair with Gary Speeds missus and is the father of one her kids. Story hitting papers soon allegedly.

[Uke]

Duncan Ferguson or breath control play - you decide!

Apparently Duncan Ferguson had a 13yr affair with Gary Speeds missus and is the father of one her kids. Story hitting papers soon allegedly.

He's not as interesting as the Higgs Boson yet

http://uk.twend.it/today

[Cobi]

Duncan Ferguson or breath control play - you decide!

Apparently Duncan Ferguson had a 13yr affair with Gary Speeds missus and is the father of one her kids. Story hitting papers soon allegedly.

Would make his presence at Elland Road with a wreath a bit insensitive don't you think?

[TBM]

Duncan Ferguson or breath control play - you decide!

Apparently Duncan Ferguson had a 13yr affair with Gary Speeds missus and is the father of one her kids. Story hitting papers soon allegedly.

You just did a copy and paste

But anyway, the bloke who started the rumour is now no longer on Twitter.

[Silver Fox]

A lie is half way around the world before Duncan Ferguson has got his boots on

BTW the latest Private eye says there was no newspaper sting

[Seal]

Would love to know how funny that guy thinks his gag was if he ever gets tracked down by big Dunc.

[LWJ]

Duncan Ferguson or breath control play - you decide!

Apparently Duncan Ferguson had a 13yr affair with Gary Speeds missus and is the father of one her kids. Story hitting papers soon allegedly.

You just did a copy and paste

But anyway, the bloke who started the rumour is now no longer on Twitter.

Yes i did.

[FiNeRaIn]

Would love to know how funny that guy thinks his gag was if he ever gets tracked down by big Dunc.

once big dunc gets hold of him...there will be tears.

[The Reverend]

Not if he lubes up and does some stretching exercises.

[Super_horns]

Killed himself after some rows with the wife..marriage problems then.

Not quick the shocking scandals that were rumoured.