Gylfi returning on loan?

[Silver Fox]

Swansea Proper Chairman, Reading Madejski

Who is their chairman? LOLz BTW

Swansea Knowledgeable Patient Fanbase, Reading Insufferable Mongs

Yeah but you don't go to games any more so you don't count

[TBM]

We had a bloke here who inherited a team who had hardly won all year and faced a massive rebuilding job. He also wanted us to play a style of football which amounted to more than percentages and lumping down channels. Nobody, board and supporters, was prepared to show patience and get behind him.....

Jeff, Jeff, Jeff. Rodgers brought a lot of it on himself by vastly overrating his own abilities. He seemed to think he could make the likes of Kalifa Cisse a majestic ball-playing midfielder . He has done well at Swansea and I wish him well, I also wish Gylfi well. I am sure that Rodgers learned a lot at Reading and while he is clearly 'the one who got away', his refusal to even remotely compromise his principles and play the long game (as opposed to 'the long ball game' ) cost him his job at Reading.

High time that you - and many others on this thread - moved on and stopped re-writing the past.

The only reason Rodgers is doing well at Swansea is due to the work that Martinez laid down there before he left - they both like to play a similar style of football.

[Hoop Blah]

There's no doubt Martinez laid the foundations but Rodgers turned them from a side that played pretty football but didn't score enough goals to win promotion (or even get in the play offs IIRC) into a Premier League team who pass it around as well as anyone and who were possibly the best team to watch last season.

The subtle changes he made to their squad and the way he used their existing players to better effect than both Martinez and Sousa deserves a lot more credit in my opinion.

It's far too easy to say that he just succeeded because of the groundwork laid down by Martinez.

[loyalroyal4life]

Church for £2m with Lita other way???? I would take that!!!

[melonhead]

i want church to do well here

but 2 million would have to be seriously considered


as for rodgers- he got alot of support- more than a manager from outside the club would have got, but by xmas it was becoming pretty clear wed be in the relegation mix, and JM moved at the right time.

and i hate that tippy tappy shit we were playing, and to some extent the way swansea now play. clearly im no purist, cos it mostly bores the shit out of me

[Hoop Blah]

as for rodgers- he got alot of support- more than a manager from outside the club would have got

Really? In what way? Would love you to expand on that to enlighten us as I didn't see anything along those lines.

[mr_number]

as for rodgers- he got alot of support- more than a manager from outside the club would have got

Really? In what way? Would love you to expand on that to enlighten us as I didn't see anything along those lines.

I'd agree with Melon here- we were doing dreadfully, and it just didn't look like it was going to improve. Going from playoffs to relegation is pretty poor, even accepting that we had lost some key players.
It was bloody boring as well, all that passing around the half way line.

[Hoop Blah]

But what support did he get that a manager 'from outside the club' wouldn't have got?

Obviously results weren't good, but there were certainly signs that we were getting into the swing of things under Rodgers and it was just a case of being more clinical in front of goal in some respects.

[melonhead]

as for rodgers- he got alot of support- more than a manager from outside the club would have got

Really? In what way? Would love you to expand on that to enlighten us as I didn't see anything along those lines.

i mean that with the shit on and off the pitch, and shit from his mouth, hed have been hounded out alot earlier by the fans themselves, if he hadnt been a reading boy, who had a lot of support from the fanbase as a result.

i lived th eguy, but you have to admit his time here was a little bit mental

[melonhead]

But what support did he get that a manager 'from outside the club' wouldn't have got?

Obviously results weren't good, but there were certainly signs that we were getting into the swing of things under Rodgers and it was just a case of being more clinical in front of goal in some respects.

performances were also awful, his management seemed mental in terms of dropping players and chopping things around all the time

im simply saying, if hed been brought in from elsewhere he would have had even less time to sort it out

[Svlad Cjelli]

But what support did he get that a manager 'from outside the club' wouldn't have got?

Obviously results weren't good, but there were certainly signs that we were getting into the swing of things under Rodgers and it was just a case of being more clinical in front of goal in some respects.

performances were also awful, his management seemed mental in terms of dropping players and chopping things around all the time

im simply saying, if hed been brought in from elsewhere he would have had even less time to sort it out

I think it was a double-edged sword, really.

Because he was "one of us" and demonstrably loved the club I do think he was treated with a little more patience and tolerance than an outsider might have been, but at the same time when he was determined to do things his own way (and not "the Reading Way") then the same rebounded on him more - and it was the latter that was his eventual downfall.

[Hoop Blah]

I don't agree he had more patience afforded him than an outsider would've done, certainly not from those that mattered.

As a club we've got no history of turning quickly on managers and so to get rid of him after just 20 games doesn't sound like a lot of support to me. Even Bullivant had twice as long to get things right.

No doubt that Rodgers came out with some daft soundbites but I also get the impression he was misled a bit at the start as to how much support he'd get for the long term job he had on his hands (I've said before that whoever took over that summer was a bit of a hiding to nothing but Rodgers tried too much too soon). His comments about using those early league games as a kind of pre-season were naive yes, but also show where he thought he had support that was eventually in short supply.

[FiNeRaIn]

Rodgers wasn't just removed due to poor results, he actually had the audacity to ask for more money to spend on players as the squad was weak and we didn't get the striker we wanted. Madejski decided this didn't follow the yes man trend he was looking for and removed him.

[melonhead]

I don't agree he had more patience afforded him than an outsider would've done, certainly not from those that mattered.

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i just meant the fans really
no one that actually mattered m8

[melonhead]

Rodgers wasn't just removed due to poor results, he actually had the audacity to ask for more money to spend on players as the squad was weak and we didn't get the striker we wanted. Madejski decided this didn't follow the yes man trend he was looking for and removed him.

maybe he should have checked the budget before blowing a totally ridiculous 2 million on mills

[FiNeRaIn]

Mills...sold for 5 million. Rodgers made the club 3 mill profit.

[Svlad Cjelli]

Do we really have to cover all this ground about why (and precisely when ) he was sacked all over again ......?

Briefly, he was sacked for 2 main reasons :

- wouldn't take advice or assistance from in the club, was determined to do everything "his way" and so pissed off too many people in important positions;
- was going to sell Mills in January at cut-price, because Mills was standing up to him in the dressing room and saying that the players didn't understand what they were being told to do. Sacked 2 weeks before transfer window opened.

[ZacNaloen]

How would he have sold Mills?


Does Hammond report to the manager or something?

I thought they worked "together"

[winchester_royal]

Mills...sold for 5 million. Rodgers made the club 3 mill profit.

Did he f*ck. McDermott is the one who turned Mills into a £5m player.

I was a supporter of Rodgers while he was here, and personally I'd have liked us to give him time. But there can be no doubt that Brian has done a better job over the last couple of years in terms of results than Brendan would have.

[Hoop Blah]

Rodgers wasn't just removed due to poor results, he actually had the audacity to ask for more money to spend on players as the squad was weak and we didn't get the striker we wanted. Madejski decided this didn't follow the yes man trend he was looking for and removed him.

maybe he should have checked the budget before blowing a totally ridiculous 2 million on mills

I'm still not convinced Mills was a Rodgers signing. We'd be watching him for some time and although I'm sure he'd been able to veto it of required I have a hunch the deal was set up before Rodgers came in.

Pretty sure the reported £2m isn't quite accurate either of course, although no doubt it was a sizeable chunk of the funds available.