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Re: John Terry

by No Fixed Abode » 01 Feb 2012 14:54




Probably because he's black. A little biased in his opinion.

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Re: John Terry

by Wax Jacket » 01 Feb 2012 15:01

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Probably because he's black. A little biased in his opinion.


spoken like a true white man

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Re: John Terry

by No Fixed Abode » 01 Feb 2012 16:09

:wink: :lol:

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Re: John Terry

by Terminal Boardom » 03 Feb 2012 08:47

So it seems that the FA are in a real dilemma. Talk now is of removing the captaincy from John Terry and that a decision may be made today. But why does it take so long for this case to be heard? Because of playing commitments of Chelsea players? Do me a favour! HAd this been some ordinary man in the street, the case would have been heard ages ago regardless of work commitments.

Whatever his on-field activities, which at best are questionable, he has hardly been an angel off the pitch

http://blog.sport.co.uk/Football/298/Top_Ten_John_Terry_Misdemeanours.aspx

IMHO, he should never have been made captain in the first place and his position in the squad is highly questionable. There are plenty of far better central defenders eligible to play for England.

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Re: John Terry

by TheMaraudingDog » 03 Feb 2012 09:01

I still think Terry needs to be in the squad.

Rio is always injured
Jones prone to mistakes and has played his best games by far in centre mid
Cahil has been really poor the last 6 months. Needs to prove himself one at Chelsea but not been played.

IMO the best two for consistency this season have been Smalling and Lescot.


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Re: John Terry

by Mr Angry » 03 Feb 2012 09:21

Looks like the FA will strip him of the captaincy...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/16866149

If that happens, I'd imagine that he will retire from International football.

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Re: John Terry

by No Fixed Abode » 03 Feb 2012 09:23

The things is - Capello has come and said that Terry should remain captain until the court case. If the FA decide to take the captaincy away from JT, then they will be undermining Fabio. If the FA thinks it's for the best to take the captaincy away from JT for the good of the England team, then they might as well take him out of the squad completely imo.

He should stay as England captain until the outcome of the trial. If he is stripped of the captaincy or taken out of the squad before the trial and is found not guilty - The FA are basically punishing an innocent man and if I were JT, I would turn my back on playing for England.

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Re: John Terry

by Silver Fox » 03 Feb 2012 09:27

How can you undermine the manager if he's leaving anyway and hasn't really given a toss throughout his tenure?

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Re: John Terry

by Mr Angry » 03 Feb 2012 09:29

No Fixed Abode The things is - Capello has come and said that Terry should remain captain until the court case. If the FA decide to take the captaincy away from JT, then they will be undermining Fabio. If the FA thinks it's for the best to take the captaincy away from JT for the good of the England team, then they might as well take him out of the squad completely imo.

He should stay as England captain until the outcome of the trial. If he is stripped of the captaincy or taken out of the squad before the trial and is found not guilty - The FA are basically punishing an innocent man and if I were JT, I would turn my back on playing for England.


I agree that it would totally undermine Capello, but as he is a dead man walking, the FA may well feel that what he thinks is an irrelevance.

I also agree that he shouldn't be in the squad; if he had been charged with something less divisive, then maybe, but not for what he has been charged with. Apart from anything else, it would be yet another off-field distraction that the England team could do without in the build up to, and at, the tournament.

What would be interesting is if Terry does get found not guilty, could he have a case to sue the FA? I suspect he would.......


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Re: John Terry

by Extended-Phenotype » 03 Feb 2012 09:40

In all seriousness, I would not be happy with a player being in the squad who has this sort of charge hanging over him, let alone captaining the side.

Let’s say for one minute I believed John ‘Racist Scum’ Terry to be innocent, I’d still suggest that, for football reasons, the court case would be detrimental to the side. The player himself would not be mentally fit, his team mates (especially black players) may feel ill at ease, and opponents could use the court case to unsettle the side.

England attract enough negativity worldwide, without being led into the Euros by someone who has been accused of racism.

I fail to see what his innocence has to do anything at this point and surely, if he had any decency, he would realise the question mark hanging over his head would be harmful to his countries chances in a tournament.

Plus, he’s sh|t anyway.

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Re: John Terry

by No Fixed Abode » 03 Feb 2012 09:48

Extended-Phenotype In all seriousness, I would not be happy with a player being in the squad who has this sort of charge hanging over him, let alone captaining the side.

Let’s say for one minute I believed John ‘Racist Scum’ Terry to be innocent, I’d still suggest that, for football reasons, the court case would be detrimental to the side. The player himself would not be mentally fit, his team mates (especially black players) may feel ill at ease, and opponents could use the court case to unsettle the side.

England attract enough negativity worldwide, without being led into the Euros by someone who has been accused of racism.

I fail to see what his innocence has to do anything at this point and surely, if he had any decency, he would realise the question mark hanging over his head would be harmful to his countries chances in a tournament.

Plus, he’s sh|t anyway.


Don't let your anti-Terry or anti-Chelsea stance determine your opinion will you? :lol:

Why should someone who has yet to be found guilty be punished?

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Re: John Terry

by Silver Fox » 03 Feb 2012 09:50

Extended-Phenotype if he had any decency.


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Re: John Terry

by Extended-Phenotype » 03 Feb 2012 09:57

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Extended-Phenotype In all seriousness, I would not be happy with a player being in the squad who has this sort of charge hanging over him, let alone captaining the side.

Let’s say for one minute I believed John ‘Racist Scum’ Terry to be innocent, I’d still suggest that, for football reasons, the court case would be detrimental to the side. The player himself would not be mentally fit, his team mates (especially black players) may feel ill at ease, and opponents could use the court case to unsettle the side.

England attract enough negativity worldwide, without being led into the Euros by someone who has been accused of racism.

I fail to see what his innocence has to do anything at this point and surely, if he had any decency, he would realise the question mark hanging over his head would be harmful to his countries chances in a tournament.

Plus, he’s sh|t anyway.


Don't let your anti-Terry or anti-Chelsea stance determine your opinion will you? :lol:

Why should someone who has yet to be found guilty be punished?



But If this is cause for unease, why should the England team and its fans be punished?

It’s all very well barking on about innocent until proven guilty, but the human brain doesn’t work that way, does it?

Your Uncle Bob has a child abuse case coming up in July – would he still be on your babysitters list?


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Re: John Terry

by Mr Angry » 03 Feb 2012 09:59

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Extended-Phenotype In all seriousness, I would not be happy with a player being in the squad who has this sort of charge hanging over him, let alone captaining the side.

Let’s say for one minute I believed John ‘Racist Scum’ Terry to be innocent, I’d still suggest that, for football reasons, the court case would be detrimental to the side. The player himself would not be mentally fit, his team mates (especially black players) may feel ill at ease, and opponents could use the court case to unsettle the side.

England attract enough negativity worldwide, without being led into the Euros by someone who has been accused of racism.

I fail to see what his innocence has to do anything at this point and surely, if he had any decency, he would realise the question mark hanging over his head would be harmful to his countries chances in a tournament.

Plus, he’s sh|t anyway.


Don't let your anti-Terry or anti-Chelsea stance determine your opinion will you? :lol:

Why should someone who has yet to be found guilty be punished?


Or your pro-Terry, pro-Chelsea stance determine yours either??

Can you really not see the bigger picture with regard to this?

You really don't think that it is inappropriate to have, as the captain of your National Team in its National sport, having someone with this charge hanging over his head?

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Re: John Terry

by Dare to Dr£am » 03 Feb 2012 10:03

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Extended-Phenotype In all seriousness, I would not be happy with a player being in the squad who has this sort of charge hanging over him, let alone captaining the side.

Let’s say for one minute I believed John ‘Racist Scum’ Terry to be innocent, I’d still suggest that, for football reasons, the court case would be detrimental to the side. The player himself would not be mentally fit, his team mates (especially black players) may feel ill at ease, and opponents could use the court case to unsettle the side.

England attract enough negativity worldwide, without being led into the Euros by someone who has been accused of racism.

I fail to see what his innocence has to do anything at this point and surely, if he had any decency, he would realise the question mark hanging over his head would be harmful to his countries chances in a tournament.

Plus, he’s sh|t anyway.


Don't let your anti-Terry or anti-Chelsea stance determine your opinion will you? :lol:

Why should someone who has yet to be found guilty be punished?
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I thought the video evidence was conclusive? He's a thug, like his father. He doesn't deserve the England captaincy, or the Chelsea captaincy for that matter; and your defence of him is disappointing considering his behavour in the last couple of years.

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Re: John Terry

by Mr Angry » 03 Feb 2012 10:06

Just confirmed that Terry has been stripped of the England captaincy.

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Re: John Terry

by Mr Angry » 03 Feb 2012 10:10

No Fixed Abode John Terry will stand trial on July 9th, so he will be England captain for the Euro's.


No he won't.

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Re: John Terry

by Mr Angry » 03 Feb 2012 10:12

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Mr A is a little slow on this one. The three players in question won't be making a statement (confirmed by QPR) as there is nothing to this story.


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Re: John Terry

by soggy biscuit » 03 Feb 2012 10:18

No Fixed Abode The things is - Capello has come and said that Terry should remain captain until the court case. If the FA decide to take the captaincy away from JT, then they will be undermining Fabio. If the FA thinks it's for the best to take the captaincy away from JT for the good of the England team, then they might as well take him out of the squad completely imo.

He should stay as England captain until the outcome of the trial. If he is stripped of the captaincy or taken out of the squad before the trial and is found not guilty - The FA are basically punishing an innocent man and if I were JT, I would turn my back on playing for England.


Lol, just lol

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Re: John Terry

by Dare to Dr£am » 03 Feb 2012 11:07

Mr Angry Just confirmed that Terry has been stripped of the England captaincy.


Good. Personally I'd rather he was dropped as well.

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