Generic clubs in financial crisis Thread

[Friday's Legacy]

You, like Ian and like the other clowns posting about this do NOT no the inside facts as they haven't been detailed yet. When they have I will accept them. Its you clowns running around stating everything as fact which is really, really irritating.

You do know celtic are being bankrolled by Irish tycoons don't you? Their finances can be compared to wigan. So their financial situation is irrelevant.

if other lesser spl clubs can run at a profit then your argument, like your opinion, is irrelevant.

[FiNeRaIn]

Im off out, you little saddos can continue worrying about the SPL financial situation all you want. Have a good night.

[Friday's Legacy]

Im off out, you little saddos can continue worrying about the SPL financial situation all you want. Have a good night.

no-one hear is worried about the spl. the fact is if you don't run your club properly you are essentially cheating your way to success - which you did for 10 years, and you deserve everything you're get as a result.

and my opinion wont change if this happens to reading in the future; so if you do want to revisit this, please do.

[bobbybottler]

Im off out, you little saddos can continue worrying about the SPL financial situation all you want. Have a good night.

no-one hear is worried about the spl. the fact is if you don't run your club properly you are essentially cheating your way to success - which you did for 10 years, and you deserve everything you're get as a result.

and my opinion wont change if this happens to reading in the future; so if you do want to revisit this, please do.

yeah, you pfucking tell him Jay

[soggy biscuit]

Finerain checklist when wrong in argument:

Blame 'little Englanders'. Check
Blame the Premier League. Check
Insult the other person when excuses are all used up. Check

Full house tonight

[Ian Royal]

You, like Ian and like the other clowns posting about this do NOT no the inside facts as they haven't been detailed yet. When they have I will accept them. Its you clowns running around stating everything as fact which is really, really irritating.

You do know celtic are being bankrolled by Irish tycoons don't you? Their finances can be compared to wigan. So their financial situation is irrelevant.

Given Rangers are in problems because they lost the Court case with HMRC about whether they could pay players in image rights into offshore accounts without paying tax, and are now in administration because they do have to pay tax on that, I'd say it's you who doesn't have a scoobie when you're arguing Rangers haven't been overspending because they haven't spent much on transfer fees. Transfer fees are irrelevant and only a very small part of the spending for most clubs.

The only facts that are important are Rangers have been caught out owing tens of millions of pounds in tax and are now in administration because they've been dodgily run.

[leon]

You, like Ian and like the other clowns posting about this do NOT no the inside facts as they haven't been detailed yet. When they have I will accept them. Its you clowns running around stating everything as fact which is really, really irritating.

You do know celtic are being bankrolled by Irish tycoons don't you? Their finances can be compared to wigan. So their financial situation is irrelevant.

I'm just laughing at rangers. Unlike Celtic fans (well the clever ones) I don't care if you go under.

[Rev Algenon Stickleback H]

Top quality from Rangers fans. Clubs in a financial mess, worst starting 11 in the clubs history,

Worst in the club's history?

The pre-Souness era, when Rangers finished mid-table every season for years, didn't happen then?

[Rev Algenon Stickleback H]

More from Planet Portsmouth, which is a completely different world to this one

http://www.mirrorfootball.co.uk/news/Ba ... 67020.html

Portsmouth boss Michael Appleton said: “I spoke to the administrator this morning. We have a the smallest squad in the league and a horrendous injury situation, so he said he will address getting more players in on Monday.”

[Stranded]

Top quality from Rangers fans. Clubs in a financial mess, worst starting 11 in the clubs history, 10 points deducted and no chance of the title and nothing to play for. How do the fans respond? Biggest crowd of the season against Kilmarnock, more than the OF earlier in the season. More than celtics last home game when they've won the title already. Top, top support.

And were clearly heard singing sectarian songs, potentially causing more issues for their beloved club.

[Royal Rother]

Birch confirms that Portsmouth's highest paid player is on in excess of £30,000 per week.

Just incredible.

[Ian Royal]

More from Planet Portsmouth, which is a completely different world to this one

http://www.mirrorfootball.co.uk/news/Ba ... 67020.html

Portsmouth boss Michael Appleton said: “I spoke to the administrator this morning. We have a the smallest squad in the league and a horrendous injury situation, so he said he will address getting more players in on Monday.”

I'm sure some of their fans are quite handy and would play for free. No transfer issues either. Do they have a youth team? Bodies on the pitch is never going to be a problem and they're probably going down anyway.

Birch confirms that Portsmouth's highest paid player is on in excess of £30,000 per week.

Just incredible.

what's the average championship wage these days? £15k a week? Ridiculous they thought they could start paying well above average wages without having even paid off 20% of the debt they'd built up to a couple of years ago, with feck all income.

[exileinleeds]

Apparently they only had 3 subs yesterday. They do have an acadamy- but MA is refusing to even put them on the bench...if they put some kid on the bench 3 times they become part of the first team- and they can't then claim emergency loans.

[Royal Rother]

Birch confirms that Portsmouth's highest paid player is on in excess of £30,000 per week.

Just incredible.

what's the average championship wage these days? £15k a week? Ridiculous they thought they could start paying well above average wages without having even paid off 20% of the debt they'd built up to a couple of years ago, with feck all income.

Blimey, I'd have thought the average wage was nowhere near £15k - more like half that.

[Fox Talbot]

Pompey deducted only 10pts

Ludicrous. I wasn't expecting 20, but it should have been 13 - 15. They have to be wound up shirley!

Can't we appeal?

[Friday's Legacy]

Birch confirms that Portsmouth's highest paid player is on in excess of £30,000 per week.

Just incredible.

what's the average championship wage these days? £15k a week? Ridiculous they thought they could start paying well above average wages without having even paid off 20% of the debt they'd built up to a couple of years ago, with feck all income.

Blimey, I'd have thought the average wage was nowhere near £15k - more like half that.

no no, £15k seems about right these days. you'll find a number of reading players on £10k a week, and one or two on more as well (roberts).

i just find it incredible that portsmouth have someone on £30k a week. no-one in their side is worth that. i would imagine it's benjani and/or tal ben haim. kitson would have come in on a pretty penny as well having been on big wages at stoke and portsmouth thinking they were getting a top end striker at the time.

[Franchise FC]

no no, £15k seems about right these days. you'll find a number of reading players on £10k a week, and one or two on more as well (roberts).

i just find it incredible that portsmouth have someone on £30k a week. no-one in their side is worth that. i would imagine it's benjani and/or tal ben haim. kitson would have come in on a pretty penny as well having been on big wages at stoke and portsmouth thinking they were getting a top end striker at the time.

But simple maths would suggest that there would have to be a significant number on much more than £15k to keep the average at that level.



Oh, and then I remembered West Ham are in the Championship

[Ian Royal]

what's the average championship wage these days? £15k a week? Ridiculous they thought they could start paying well above average wages without having even paid off 20% of the debt they'd built up to a couple of years ago, with feck all income.

Blimey, I'd have thought the average wage was nowhere near £15k - more like half that.

no no, £15k seems about right these days. you'll find a number of reading players on £10k a week, and one or two on more as well (roberts).

i just find it incredible that portsmouth have someone on £30k a week. no-one in their side is worth that. i would imagine it's benjani and/or tal ben haim. kitson would have come in on a pretty penny as well having been on big wages at stoke and portsmouth thinking they were getting a top end striker at the time.

Kitson was reported to be on £19k by AA iirc, with Lawrence on £20k.

£15k was just a random guess. A quick google shows an average from teh Daily Malice in October of £4k a week. And Pompey are paying three players a total of £69k!?

They could have 17 (SEVENTEEN!) players on average wages for that!

[Rev Algenon Stickleback H]

i just find it incredible that portsmouth have someone on £30k a week. no-one in their side is worth that. i would imagine it's benjani and/or tal ben haim. kitson would have come in on a pretty penny as well having been on big wages at stoke and portsmouth thinking they were getting a top end striker at the time.

Apparently it's Tal Ben Haim, on £38k a week.

[Friday's Legacy]

i just find it incredible that portsmouth have someone on £30k a week. no-one in their side is worth that. i would imagine it's benjani and/or tal ben haim. kitson would have come in on a pretty penny as well having been on big wages at stoke and portsmouth thinking they were getting a top end striker at the time.

Apparently it's Tal Ben Haim, on £38k a week.

so just shy of £2m of their annual debt is for one central defender. it's no wonder they can't stay out of trouble. benjani and kitson will be around the £20k mark for certain. that's another £2m a year or more.

i fully understand their manager appleton wanting and needing players in to boost numbers, but surely as part of the clubs restabalisation/refinancing, they should be made to release the likes of tal ben haim? the saving in wages is greater than their potential sale value. and then, and only then, should you be able to bring in some free/loan players.

the immediate aim should be to cut costs and survive, not wangle your way out of another administration and keep the bulk of your best players, and then spend frivolously again in the hope of competing for promotion in the next season or two.