Bad news for attention seeking fans, sorry, no sobfest.

[RepressedRoyal]

I have to say I do agree with the general sentiment of this thread albeit it might be worded a bit harshly. This Muamba thing has just taken on a life of its own. Relentless media coverage with a SSN reporter permanently outside the hospital. Ridiculous & way OTT in my opinion.

LOL @ West Ham players wearing "Pray for Muamba" T-shirts & then thinking sh1t we better have "Pray for Abidal" on the reverse. That's odd as you didn't give a flying fcuk about Abidal in the previous game vs Leeds & his liver transplant was announced a while back!

All this look how supportive we are crap is getting on my wick frankly. I also saw some chav who'd written pray for Muamba on the back of a walkers crisps box or something just to get his face on Sky. Pathetic.

When I read the OP it did make me smile. Maybe I am going to hell now for being so damn uncaring.

I really feel the for the guy who has received such vitriol for expressing his opinion about the Great British grieving society. If you go back 20 years, the fifteen year old footballing brother of Gabby Logan died of the same condition as Muamba and terribly sad as it was, there wasn't the national outpouring of grief that we seem to relish in now. For the spawning of grief, you have to fast forward five years to 1997 and the death of a former Princess who had spent her life humping around the higher echelons of society before being killed/knocked off in a car crash. That funeral and the week of national mourning leading up to it was a catalyst for the ridicolous actions that have taken place since.I hate to say this, but I can't help think that some people and sections of the media were a bit disappointed that Muamba lived as it p1ssed on their public mourning parade.

However, the marketing men overcame the obstacle of Muamba's rapidly improving condition by cancelling the "RIP Muamba" T-shirts and quickly ordering some "Pray for Muamba" ones. "Fans" across the country did their best to replace the anticipated period of mourning with praying and sent their toddlers up to gates of Bolton Wanderer's with bunches of flowers so they could get on Sky TV. Meanwhile, across the country, fans filled the air with chants of Fabrice Muamba, Fabrice Muamba in between diities about stabbing, seriously maiming or setting fire to their local rivals.

I don't think the poster of this thread has done anything wrong, I just think he is fed up with national grieving/praying being a bizarre obsession we have got in to the habit of. If we are not careful, Match of the Day will become Mourn of the day, a contest to see which club can put on the greatest show of grief, we have already witnessed something similar when Sky TV panned around the PL training grounds on the 11th of November as the players stopped running in between cones and pretended to remember those slaughtered in the miserable wars of the 20th century. Great that they observed the minutes silence, but why show it on TV?

When Fabrice Muamba begins to come terms with a condition that will probably end his career, the majority of people will have forgotten about him as they will be too busy mourning the death of some upper class twit who sailed into some Somali pirates or someone who thought it was a good idea to put up a tent in the back garden of a polar bear.........so don't worry Kingsley, you may have missed out this weekend, but it wont be long before you can stand at the end of a line of players with your big grinning head bowed as your tail hangs down between your legs....a bizarre sight that gives me a little chuckle every time.

[MmmMonsterMunch]

IN for the pray for Bill Oddie T-shirts.

Can one of you artistic nobbers knock one up for me?

[manny96]

Also, something else that annoys me, are the idiots who claim his recovery is 'a miracle'. No it isn't. It is down to the prompt responses of the medical staff and the subsequent treatment on the way to and in the hospital. Ain't no miracles there. Just good, well trained professionals doing their jobs to a very high standard and all the praise should go to them, and not writing their hard work off as 'a miracle'.

Err...I think the cardiologist who was on hand at WHL and was there when Muamba woke up referred to it in terms of 'miraculous' (he didn't say it was miraculous - he said that if there was something that could be called miraculous, it was this).

Nobody has denied or taken away from the professionalism and quality of the medical staff and support - point is, they could have done the exact same thing and he would have died anyway. I'm not saying it was 'miraculous' but I can't claim any moral (or other) superiority because I cloak it in existentialist 'luck', rather than 'divine' meaning.

[Snowball]

I have to say I do agree with the general sentiment of this thread albeit it might be worded a bit harshly. This Muamba thing has just taken on a life of its own. Relentless media coverage with a SSN reporter permanently outside the hospital. Ridiculous & way OTT in my opinion.

LOL @ West Ham players wearing "Pray for Muamba" T-shirts & then thinking sh1t we better have "Pray for Abidal" on the reverse. That's odd as you didn't give a flying fcuk about Abidal in the previous game vs Leeds & his liver transplant was announced a while back!

All this look how supportive we are crap is getting on my wick frankly. I also saw some chav who'd written pray for Muamba on the back of a walkers crisps box or something just to get his face on Sky. Pathetic.

When I read the OP it did make me smile. Maybe I am going to hell now for being so damn uncaring.

I really feel the for the guy who has received such vitriol for expressing his opinion about the Great British grieving society. If you go back 20 years, the fifteen year old footballing brother of Gabby Logan died of the same condition as Muamba and terribly sad as it was, there wasn't the national outpouring of grief that we seem to relish in now. For the spawning of grief, you have to fast forward five years to 1997 and the death of a former Princess who had spent her life humping around the higher echelons of society before being killed/knocked off in a car crash. That funeral and the week of national mourning leading up to it was a catalyst for the ridicolous actions that have taken place since.I hate to say this, but I can't help think that some people and sections of the media were a bit disappointed that Muamba lived as it p1ssed on their public mourning parade.

However, the marketing men overcame the obstacle of Muamba's rapidly improving condition by cancelling the "RIP Muamba" T-shirts and quickly ordering some "Pray for Muamba" ones. "Fans" across the country did their best to replace the anticipated period of mourning with praying and sent their toddlers up to gates of Bolton Wanderer's with bunches of flowers so they could get on Sky TV. Meanwhile, across the country, fans filled the air with chants of Fabrice Muamba, Fabrice Muamba in between diities about stabbing, seriously maiming or setting fire to their local rivals.

I don't think the poster of this thread has done anything wrong, I just think he is fed up with national grieving/praying being a bizarre obsession we have got in to the habit of. If we are not careful, Match of the Day will become Mourn of the day, a contest to see which club can put on the greatest show of grief, we have already witnessed something similar when Sky TV panned around the PL training grounds on the 11th of November as the players stopped running in between cones and pretended to remember those slaughtered in the miserable wars of the 20th century. Great that they observed the minutes silence, but why show it on TV?

When Fabrice Muamba begins to come terms with a condition that will probably end his career, the majority of people will have forgotten about him as they will be too busy mourning the death of some upper class twit who sailed into some Somali pirates or someone who thought it was a good idea to put up a tent in the back garden of a polar bear.........so don't worry Kingsley, you may have missed out this weekend, but it wont be long before you can stand at the end of a line of players with your big grinning head bowed as your tail hangs down between your legs....a bizarre sight that gives me a little chuckle every time.

Well said.

[OldBiscuit]

What a twat!

The public mourners know who they are!

I understand what you're saying, but you are clearly a complete twat. If YOUR son had nearly died on the football field I am pretty certain you would be hugely touched to see football fans and players over the country showing their support for him. That is all it is. Also, please realise that the minutes silence often serve as an occasion that reminds individuals of their own deceased loved ones - this is why it is such a cathartic and emotional time.

Abuse eh? tells us all what type of person you are.
Lets get one thing straight, you have just printed a load of 'ponce-talk" There is no catharsis, this is not a time to reflect on your own losses, it is a bit of a follow the leader game for people that like to follow like sheep. just like 'The Emperors New Clothes' and nobody wants to stand up and say 'Stop". i think that some people need to get a grip. A 15 year old boy died of a cardiac arrest on a sports fiels just days after the Muamba incident, but i saw no tears, flowers or silence for that tragic young lad or his family at the game versus Blackpool, Why not? Was it because no one told you all to be sad? or did nobody want to waste their grief on a low profile character? Baa! Baa! Baa!

[OldBiscuit]

What a knobend.

Abusive Sheep!

[OldBiscuit]

I don't think anyone really thinks "look at me" during a minutes silence. I usually stare blankly into the distance, and usually end up thinking of close family members that have died.

I don't recall seeing anyone ever doing an over-emphasised sobbing routine to attract attention.

Were you not around in the days following the death of Lady Diana?

[OldBiscuit]

I recall Coppell tried to sign Muamba so there is a tenuous link to our club.

Any way, I agree with others, if you don't like it, don't come to the match. We won't miss you.

I come to watch football, not baa with the sheep.

[OldBiscuit]

Thank goodness Fabrice Muamba, a man with absolutely no connection to reading Football Club looks like he is going to pull through. Probably won't play again and no doubt a visit from the careers officer is imminent.
More importantly, this saturdays planned sobfest is cancelled and we haven't got to suffer another of those 'minutes silence' that seem to bring out the attention seeking qualities in some fans, the 'look at me i'm mourning' or 'i must look so adult mourning like this' or even ' i love this American style shit of public mourning and when this minute is up i'm going to shout YESSSSS!' or the worst one ' i never ever met this person, they had no relevance to my life but i am going to shed a tear and hope the camera catches me crying'. These same people that were blogging glowing tributes to Tommy burns, the biggest charlaton to ever (dis)grace this club.
However, for all those that need to seen to be saddened and dutifully mourning, Rolf Harris in well into his seventies and lives in Berkshire, You never know!

Wasn't it you who promised to leave in a massive huff? If it wasn't, could you leave anyway?

No, i never promised anything.

[OldBiscuit]

Terrible post Old Biscuit. I think you've missed the point of collective showing of support.

no, i haven't missed any points, but i am making a point that there is no camaraderie here, there is no real feeling of grief/shock, but there is a sad showing of how people are easily manipulated by those in control, and how nearly every one goes along with it like sheep. Thats all.

[OldBiscuit]

So standing in silence for one whole minute to remember loved ones and heroes who fight for your fcuking freedom is out of the question as well then you brainless cnut

You sound intelligent (ironic).
Yes , there is a correct time to have a minutes silence at a football match, like when an ex-player, manager, chairman or so on dies. Perhaps a prime minister, and definately a high ranking royal. The point that i am making is that we seem to have them far too easily at every possible opportunity. Are we going to have one for the postman that delivers to the stadium should he die? where does it end? perhaps the club will start making money and you could buy your own personal minutes silence for a relative at a particular game. Thats all.

[OldBiscuit]

Thank goodness Fabrice Muamba, a man with absolutely no connection to reading Football Club looks like he is going to pull through. Probably won't play again and no doubt a visit from the careers officer is imminent.
More importantly, this saturdays planned sobfest is cancelled and we haven't got to suffer another of those 'minutes silence' that seem to bring out the attention seeking qualities in some fans, the 'look at me i'm mourning' or 'i must look so adult mourning like this' or even ' i love this American style shit of public mourning and when this minute is up i'm going to shout YESSSSS!' or the worst one ' i never ever met this person, they had no relevance to my life but i am going to shed a tear and hope the camera catches me crying'. These same people that were blogging glowing tributes to Tommy burns, the biggest charlaton to ever (dis)grace this club.
However, for all those that need to seen to be saddened and dutifully mourning, Rolf Harris in well into his seventies and lives in Berkshire, You never know!

So, basically what you're saying is that if it's nothing to do with you, it doesn't affect you or yours & has no bearing whatsoever on you or your life it's not worth giving a flying oxf*rd about then.....is that about right? - can you see the common denominator here?... i.e. the word 'you'

Are you implying that a young mans life that hung in the balance doesn't matter to anyone outside of his family, friends & work colleagues? I don't think I have heard for quite some time such utter selfish, self centered drivel from another human being, where is your human compassion?

And you have the audacity to compound your idiotic statement by making a comparison to Tommy Burns?... prior to Reading he played for Celtic & was player/manager at Kilmarnock (the first football team I ever watched!!) as well and was highly rated at both clubs, of course you being such a colonial imbecile won't give a toss about that eh? it's not in Berkshire is it?

There is a maxim I attempt to live my life by - it is a poem called 'Desiderata', there is a part that says 'Listen to others, even the dull & ignorant, they too have their story' unfortunately I cannot see, for the life of me where your 'story' is in this piece of absolute nonsense, although I can see that you definitely fit in to the 'ignorant' part, because no other reason comes to mind other than you are an insensitive, unfeeling, self-centered ignoramus of the highest degree.

You have waffled and strayed from the topic and consequently lost the chance of impact. Less is more. Are you merino?

[OldBiscuit]

I'm all for showing a mark of respect - but players wearing "pray for Muamba" t shirts and fans up and down the country singing his name isn't showing respect, it's about a self-glorification of trying to be seen to be doing the right thing. Almost a competition of grieving.

Here! here!
At last, some one who stands out from the crowd.

[OldBiscuit]

I'm guessing from his moniker that Old Biscuit is potentially someone in the latter half of his life. I would expect a more mature person to have a wiser outlook and a reasonably empathic quality to this sort of thing and less of the 14yo me-me-me generational outlook on life, but if the OP could confirm his age, then at least we'd all know which kind of language to send our abuse in.

As for "attention-seeking" - there is a massive, massive irony in the thread title which the OP has clearly not thought through.

From reading your reply I guess that you failed miserably in your application to become a journalist for the 'Get Reading', 'The Whiff', 'Academy of Reading Weekly Bulletin'.

[SpaceCruiser]

I'm all for showing a mark of respect - but players wearing "pray for Muamba" t shirts and fans up and down the country singing his name isn't showing respect, it's about a self-glorification of trying to be seen to be doing the right thing. Almost a competition of grieving.

Here! here!
At last, some one who stands out from the crowd.

Can I correct you? It's "Hear! Hear!".

[OldBiscuit]

Excellent article.

The article is right, and to some extent I get the gist of the OP
which, sadly, wasn't phrased that well.

There is a lot of BS "angst" these days.


(My turn in the barrel)

Stands out from the crowd.

[OldBiscuit]

The OP does have a point but the fulminating style does not lend itself to the politically correct HobNob. In fact only Warnock or Thatcher could possibly be in the frame for that type of treatment on this forum.
Incidentally another heart attack victim brought great amusement this week..... Alex in the Daily Telegraph.

Good shout NJ

I thought some of the responses to an admittedly ill judged and ambigious OP by the 'politically correct nobber's' were self righteous and hypocritical in the extreme!

Whom on here has never been guilty of misjudgement or clumsy in the meanings of their own submissions?

The responses have absolutely nothing to do with political correctness and everything to do with the OP being a total bellend.

Baa! Baa! Baa!

[OldBiscuit]

Thank goodness Fabrice Muamba, a man with absolutely no connection to reading Football Club looks like he is going to pull through. Probably won't play again and no doubt a visit from the careers officer is imminent.
More importantly, this saturdays planned sobfest is cancelled and we haven't got to suffer another of those 'minutes silence' that seem to bring out the attention seeking qualities in some fans, the 'look at me i'm mourning' or 'i must look so adult mourning like this' or even ' i love this American style shit of public mourning and when this minute is up i'm going to shout YESSSSS!' or the worst one ' i never ever met this person, they had no relevance to my life but i am going to shed a tear and hope the camera catches me crying'. These same people that were blogging glowing tributes to Tommy burns, the biggest charlaton to ever (dis)grace this club.
However, for all those that need to seen to be saddened and dutifully mourning, Rolf Harris in well into his seventies and lives in Berkshire, You never know!

Fuck off newbie

Suffer Little Children?

[Rex]

I did think the shirts worn today were a tadd too much for the rematch. Also i feel Owen Coyle is somehow basking in reflected sunlight.

I had better watch what i say though as i might get 56 days in jail !!

[OldBiscuit]

I have to say I do agree with the general sentiment of this thread albeit it might be worded a bit harshly. This Muamba thing has just taken on a life of its own. Relentless media coverage with a SSN reporter permanently outside the hospital. Ridiculous & way OTT in my opinion.

LOL @ West Ham players wearing "Pray for Muamba" T-shirts & then thinking sh1t we better have "Pray for Abidal" on the reverse. That's odd as you didn't give a flying fcuk about Abidal in the previous game vs Leeds & his liver transplant was announced a while back!

All this look how supportive we are crap is getting on my wick frankly. I also saw some chav who'd written pray for Muamba on the back of a walkers crisps box or something just to get his face on Sky. Pathetic.

When I read the OP it did make me smile. Maybe I am going to hell now for being so damn uncaring.

I really feel the for the guy who has received such vitriol for expressing his opinion about the Great British grieving society. If you go back 20 years, the fifteen year old footballing brother of Gabby Logan died of the same condition as Muamba and terribly sad as it was, there wasn't the national outpouring of grief that we seem to relish in now. For the spawning of grief, you have to fast forward five years to 1997 and the death of a former Princess who had spent her life humping around the higher echelons of society before being killed/knocked off in a car crash. That funeral and the week of national mourning leading up to it was a catalyst for the ridicolous actions that have taken place since.I hate to say this, but I can't help think that some people and sections of the media were a bit disappointed that Muamba lived as it p1ssed on their public mourning parade.

However, the marketing men overcame the obstacle of Muamba's rapidly improving condition by cancelling the "RIP Muamba" T-shirts and quickly ordering some "Pray for Muamba" ones. "Fans" across the country did their best to replace the anticipated period of mourning with praying and sent their toddlers up to gates of Bolton Wanderer's with bunches of flowers so they could get on Sky TV. Meanwhile, across the country, fans filled the air with chants of Fabrice Muamba, Fabrice Muamba in between diities about stabbing, seriously maiming or setting fire to their local rivals.

I don't think the poster of this thread has done anything wrong, I just think he is fed up with national grieving/praying being a bizarre obsession we have got in to the habit of. If we are not careful, Match of the Day will become Mourn of the day, a contest to see which club can put on the greatest show of grief, we have already witnessed something similar when Sky TV panned around the PL training grounds on the 11th of November as the players stopped running in between cones and pretended to remember those slaughtered in the miserable wars of the 20th century. Great that they observed the minutes silence, but why show it on TV?

When Fabrice Muamba begins to come terms with a condition that will probably end his career, the majority of people will have forgotten about him as they will be too busy mourning the death of some upper class twit who sailed into some Somali pirates or someone who thought it was a good idea to put up a tent in the back garden of a polar bear.........so don't worry Kingsley, you may have missed out this weekend, but it wont be long before you can stand at the end of a line of players with your big grinning head bowed as your tail hangs down between your legs....a bizarre sight that gives me a little chuckle every time.

Absolutely spot-on. I'm almost looking forward to the next minutes silence just to watch Kingsley.