Generic clubs in financial crisis Thread

[Geekins]

And from that article it's only about 8k which to him is pocket money.

[Friday's Legacy]

Bolton relegated with £110m debt at the last count.

[Royal With Cheese]

Bolton relegated with £110m debt at the last count.

They're being called the Pompey of the North.

I, for one, won't shed a tear when they go into administration.

[Ark Royal]

Bolton relegated with £110m debt at the last count.

They're being called the Pompey of the North.

I, for one, won't shed a tear when they go into administration.

Justice for '94!

...or maybe '95. Anyway, Notlob are in real trouble.

[PieEater]

Not necessarily, for 2010 they were £93m in debt but £85m was to the owner Edwin Davies. He charges interest, but it's unlikey he'll demand payment.

They will need to get their £46m (or £56m) wage bill down, but I don't think things will be that bad.

[Tony Le Mesmer]

Rangers now throwing a right wobbly and threatening to Boycott the National team and the Scottish Cup. Their arguement seemingly being that the club should not suffer as a result of the actions of their owner. I guess by the same logic, clubs shouldn't be able to win trophies as a result of the actions of their owner either?

[FiNeRaIn]

Whyte comes in despite a lot of fans simply not wanting him to take over. Most of scotland knew he was a bent crook and so did the papers. The SFA let takeover happen(why they didn't fo a fit and proper persons check I don't know)....whyte does what everyone knew he would....act a crook...he then leaves after fuvcking the club up and placing it further in debt....yet you want the rangers fans to be punished? Just

[6ft Kerplunk]

^^^^ That does somewhat overlook the fact that Rangers decided to do a bit of tax evasion for a few years before Whyte came in. But I guess that doesn't sit to well if you're playing the victims card.

[winchester_royal]

Whyte comes in despite a lot of fans simply not wanting him to take over. Most of scotland knew he was a bent crook and so did the papers. The SFA let takeover happen(why they didn't fo a fit and proper persons check I don't know)....whyte does what everyone knew he would....act a crook...he then leaves after fuvcking the club up and placing it further in debt....yet you want the rangers fans to be punished? Just

So they should just be let off because a few of the fans opposed the takeover?

Rules are rules, if it was any other club in Scotland ('cept for Celtic) they'd already be gone.

[FiNeRaIn]

There obviously have to be repurcussions, but what can football fans realistically do if someone takes over your club when you don't what them to? If zingaravich comes in and oxf*rd up reading, you will all be powerless to stop him legally. Should you be made to suffer for the next decade because of him...or will you feel the FA could have protected the club and its fans?

[Royal Rother]

Whyte comes in despite a lot of fans simply not wanting him to take over. Most of scotland knew he was a bent crook and so did the papers. The SFA let takeover happen(why they didn't fo a fit and proper persons check I don't know)....whyte does what everyone knew he would....act a crook...he then leaves after fuvcking the club up and placing it further in debt....yet you want the rangers fans to be punished? Just

Did you feel the same way about Portsmouth?

Ah, it appears not....

Disgusting how portsmouth aren't long gone, just about every law possible has been broken by everyone to keep them alive.

[Tony Le Mesmer]

Whyte comes in despite a lot of fans simply not wanting him to take over. Most of scotland knew he was a bent crook and so did the papers. The SFA let takeover happen(why they didn't fo a fit and proper persons check I don't know)....whyte does what everyone knew he would....act a crook...he then leaves after fuvcking the club up and placing it further in debt....yet you want the rangers fans to be punished? Just

So, Bent owner comes in and wins you lots of Trophies. Thats OK, you get all the glory? Bent owner comes in and fcks up the club. Thats not the fans fault?

Total Non Arguement from you im afraid. You cant have it both ways. Of course the fans dont deserve it, but what fans do?Tough luck im afraid.

If your bent owner had brought huge short term success youd be lapping up every minute of it.

[FiNeRaIn]

the two scenarios arent remotely comparable...pathetic. One was a massive club with 50,000 fans a week paying players 40k a week which seems feasable given the average attendance. one gets 18,000 a week and was spending 80k a week on players, far more obvious to everyone portsmouth were not right financially. Rangers also went nearly two seasons without spending a fee on a player. Its only come to light this season just what whyte was upto, people knew pompey were frauding for seasons.

Bent owner didn't buy anyone trophys tony le mesmer lol, looking at how much rangers have spent on transfer fee's in the last few years. probably less than reading.

[Silver Fox]

Its only come to light this season just what whyte was upto.

I thought you all knew what he was going to do when he turned up?

[FiNeRaIn]

Its only come to light this season just what whyte was upto.

I thought you all knew what he was going to do when he turned up?

Yesssss...but he hadn't started what he was about to do..and continued to do

[Geekins]

I'd quit this argument if i was you Finerain, two challenges and both you've been caught out on.

[Tony Le Mesmer]

Why are you bringing Pompey into it

[FiNeRaIn]

Why are you bringing Pompey into it

you missed royal rothers post then?

not posting anymore, battling 3/4 of you is pointless when you arent even reading each others posts.

[winchester_royal]

There obviously have to be repurcussions, but what can football fans realistically do if someone takes over your club when you don't what them to? If zingaravich comes in and oxf*rd up reading, you will all be powerless to stop him legally. Should you be made to suffer for the next decade because of him...or will you feel the FA could have protected the club and its fans?

I'd be annoyed that with the footballing powers that be, of course, but I don't think we'd have any sort of case to ask for special treatment. After all, we're not part of the club...we're just the consumers. If Tesco went bust you wouldn't claim the Government have to bail them out just so a load of middle class women don't have to change their regular shopping venue. Clubs have to be judged on how they're run, not the supposed innocence of their consumer base.

They need to stamp out this kinda crap in football, and the only way they'll do that is enforcing the laws, even when the fans aren't at fault.

[TFF]

not posting anymore