Assists

[LoyalRoyal22]

McLeary was superb last night. That said he cut inside a bit too much for me.

There was on moment in the second half when Gunter sprinted the pitch for McLeary to cut inside only to loose the ball when the correct ball was the lay off to Gunter.

He did redeem himself 5 minutes later when he cut inside once again to set up Alfie's hatrick!!

Its funny, i think he is more dangerous when he comes inside, i was shouting at him to do that when he received the ball before the assist.

[Ian Royal]

You'll get different figures where ever you look, the definitive ones surely have to be the FL website ones.
Don't see how you could give him a genuine assist for the first against Bolton or Blackpool.

[TBM]

You'll get different figures where ever you look, the definitive ones surely have to be the FL website ones.
Don't see how you could give him a genuine assist for the first against Bolton or Blackpool.

In fantasy football terms, its whoever last touched it from the scoring side, before the goal scorer did

[loyalroyal4life]

So how many has he actually got?

On course for 20 as is Alf for 20 goals

[bcubed]

McLeary was superb last night. That said he cut inside a bit too much for me.

There was on moment in the second half when Gunter sprinted the pitch for McLeary to cut inside only to loose the ball when the correct ball was the lay off to Gunter.

He did redeem himself 5 minutes later when he cut inside once again to set up Alfie's hatrick!!

Its funny, i think he is more dangerous when he comes inside, i was shouting at him to do that when he received the ball before the assist.

I'm a big fan of McCleary, but he must cut inside at least 8 times out of ten. The full back was showing him the outside, daring him to go that way because he knew he favours cutting inside.

Agree with Sandhurst, i would ike to see him go outside a lot more as well

[Ian Royal]

You'll get different figures where ever you look, the definitive ones surely have to be the FL website ones.
Don't see how you could give him a genuine assist for the first against Bolton or Blackpool.

In fantasy football terms, its whoever last touched it from the scoring side, before the goal scorer did

Fantasy football can take that definition and shove it up its rectum because it's a bloody stupid one made solely for ease of calculation points in a game. It's got very little to do with the real world of football.

[Ian Royal]

So how many has he actually got?

On course for 20 as is Alf for 20 goals

http://www.football-league.co.uk/page/DivisionalAssists/0,,10794~20137,00.html

The official football league table for this Championship season has him on 9. Not clear when it was updated, so it may be 10 or 11 after Blackpool.

Cresswell on 10, Hamill, Reid and Nugent tying with him in joint second.

[TBM]

You'll get different figures where ever you look, the definitive ones surely have to be the FL website ones.
Don't see how you could give him a genuine assist for the first against Bolton or Blackpool.

In fantasy football terms, its whoever last touched it from the scoring side, before the goal scorer did

Fantasy football can take that definition and shove it up its rectum because it's a bloody stupid one made solely for ease of calculation points in a game. It's got very little to do with the real world of football.

Not really

Without McCleary taking that shot last night, for the first, then ALF wouldn't have scored.........so McCleary assisted in ALF getting the goal

[Ian Royal]

Fantasy football is unofficial and from outside the world of football. Therefore, it's less of an authority than the actual league organisation. And the generally held definition of an assist is not just "the last person to touch it before the goal scorer".

If you want to use the fantasy football definition fair enough, just don't expect anyone to agree.

[TBM]

Fantasy football is unofficial and from outside the world of football. Therefore, it's less of an authority than the actual league organisation. And the generally held definition of an assist is not just "the last person to touch it before the goal scorer".

If you want to use the fantasy football definition fair enough, just don't expect anyone to agree.

So you just ignored what i wrote above....

You don't know that McCleary didn't mean to hit the defender knowing it was going to go to ALF to tap in. He assisted in the goal

Its like saying a deflected goal is an own goal.......its not, unless the initial shot wasn't going on target

[WestRoyal]

You'll get different figures where ever you look, the definitive ones surely have to be the FL website ones.
Don't see how you could give him a genuine assist for the first against Bolton or Blackpool.

Don't worry yourself buddy, they were not credited to him according to the official site: http://www.readingfc.co.uk/stats/player-stats/

So you'll be happy to know he is joint top instead of top

[WestRoyal]

You'll get different figures where ever you look, the definitive ones surely have to be the FL website ones.
Don't see how you could give him a genuine assist for the first against Bolton or Blackpool.

In fantasy football terms, its whoever last touched it from the scoring side, before the goal scorer did

But this is very true also
I wonder if other teams have given those kind of assists to their own players

McCleary, please go on the outside more often as you are creating too many goals cutting inside

[Ian Royal]

Fantasy football is unofficial and from outside the world of football. Therefore, it's less of an authority than the actual league organisation. And the generally held definition of an assist is not just "the last person to touch it before the goal scorer".

If you want to use the fantasy football definition fair enough, just don't expect anyone to agree.

So you just ignored what i wrote above....

You don't know that McCleary didn't mean to hit the defender knowing it was going to go to ALF to tap in. He assisted in the goal

Its like saying a deflected goal is an own goal.......its not, unless the initial shot wasn't going on target

You'd have to be a mental fantasist of the highest order to think McCleary deliberately played the ball off a defender to get it to ALF whilst trying to look like he was shaping to shoot.

[P!ssed Off]

Essentially it was a blocked shot.
It wasn't an assist.
Simples.

Fantasy football hand out assists willy nilly because they can't be arsed to work out what was deliberate/unintended, or answer all the emails from people asking why they didn't get points for an assist when so and so touched it last.

[TBM]

Essentially it was a blocked shot.
It wasn't an assist.
Simples.

Fantasy football hand out assists willy nilly because they can't be arsed to work out what was deliberate/unintended, or answer all the emails from people asking why they didn't get points for an assist when so and so touched it last.

But what is classed as an assist?

McCleary assisted in ALF getting his goal

[TBM]

Fantasy football is unofficial and from outside the world of football. Therefore, it's less of an authority than the actual league organisation. And the generally held definition of an assist is not just "the last person to touch it before the goal scorer".

If you want to use the fantasy football definition fair enough, just don't expect anyone to agree.

So you just ignored what i wrote above....

You don't know that McCleary didn't mean to hit the defender knowing it was going to go to ALF to tap in. He assisted in the goal

Its like saying a deflected goal is an own goal.......its not, unless the initial shot wasn't going on target

You'd have to be a mental fantasist of the highest order to think McCleary deliberately played the ball off a defender to get it to ALF whilst trying to look like he was shaping to shoot.

Same can be said for a hopeful punt down field which a defender mistimes and a forward latches on to. In your eyes that wouldn't be an assist cos the "punter" didn't mean it

[NewCorkSeth]

Just think of the oft repeated phrase "he certainly didn't mean that"

A goal is a goal whether or not it was intended. Think of Andros Townsends goal that was actually a cross earlier this season. An assist should be considered the same way. If a player puts the ball in the box and it ends up in the net as a direct result of his action then it should be an assist. Goals and assists should come under the same scrutiny.

[NewCorkSeth]

Just think of the oft repeated phrase "he certainly didn't mean that"

A goal is a goal whether or not it was intended. Think of Andros Townsends goal that was actually a cross earlier this season. An assist should be considered the same way. If a player puts the ball in the box and it ends up in the net as a direct result of his action then it should be an assist. Goals and assists should come under the same scrutiny.

+1 I agree. If a goal is a goal regardless of intent then shouldn't assists be treated the same way?

[TBM]

Thank you ^^

[P!ssed Off]

No, you can't have a goal without a goalscorer.
But you can have a goal without anyone credited with an assist. Therein lies the difference.