CONFIMRED - Paolo Hurtado

[Nameless]

How could you tell anything about Fosu from his brief appearance today ! To write him off on the basis of half an hour in a friendly is daft....

[RustyRoyal]

How could you tell anything about Fosu from his brief appearance today ! To write him off on the basis of half an hour in a friendly is daft....

We can't write him off completely of course, but today highlighted that he is nowhere near ready to be a first choice player. He kept losing possession and didn't put a ball in. The one time he managed to get past someone he went down softly trying to win a penalty. Today it looked like we had two Blackmans playing...

[Royal Rother]

Today he couldn't get passed his man. Other days he has done.

Same happens with McCleary.

Fosu may well be limited to sub appearances for the time being but I think he has shown enough already to indicate your judgement that he is "nowhere near ready" is overly cautious / pessimistic.

[RustyRoyal]

Maybe I chose my words poorly but what I meant is that Fosu is not the first choice left winger we need. In my opinion people are too hyped about him and all I was saying is that he is not as good as people think. Don't get me wrong he's a brilliant squad player and in a couple of years he probably will be first team if he's still here, but he's not ready yet.

[Gordons Cumming]

Has anyone told Paulo it gets cold and wet over here in England?

Not sure he'll perform on a cold, wet night in Burnley.

[Royal Rother]

Doubt he'd be alone on that one.

[notloyalenuffroyal]

Has anyone told Paulo it gets cold and wet over here in England?

Not sure he'll perform on a cold, wet night in Burnley.

I find it difficult to perform on a cold wet night in Burnley too. Just ask the wife.

[Nameless]

Maybe I chose my words poorly but what I meant is that Fosu is not the first choice left winger we need. In my opinion people are too hyped about him and all I was saying is that he is not as good as people think. Don't get me wrong he's a brilliant squad player and in a couple of years he probably will be first team if he's still here, but he's not ready yet.

oddly I don't think anyone has been saying he's going to be first choice yet. He's a young exciting prospect, as is Stacey. They will both learn this season and hopefully get decent game time. I think he is as good as some people think, but most people think he's still young.
My point was that 20 minutes today was no more of a basis to say he isn't ready than his cameo against Derby was a basis to say he's the new Ryan Giggs !!

[3points]

Maybe I chose my words poorly but what I meant is that Fosu is not the first choice left winger we need. In my opinion people are too hyped about him and all I was saying is that he is not as good as people think. Don't get me wrong he's a brilliant squad player and in a couple of years he probably will be first team if he's still here, but he's not ready yet.

oddly I don't think anyone has been saying he's going to be first choice yet. He's a young exciting prospect, as is Stacey. They will both learn this season and hopefully get decent game time. I think he is as good as some people think, but most people think he's still young.
My point was that 20 minutes today was no more of a basis to say he isn't ready than his cameo against Derby was a basis to say he's the new Ryan Giggs !!

He came on at half time, and didn't set the world on fire. But then, who did?

[Kingsley Junior]

To write him off on the basis of half an hour in a friendly is daft....

My point was that 20 minutes today was no more of a basis to say he isn't ready than his cameo against Derby was a basis to say he's the new Ryan Giggs !!

First half an hour, then 20 mins... What about the 45 minutes he actually played? Can we judge him on that?

[Nameless]

Fair enough !
I think you can probably get the point with out counting the minutes !

[RustyRoyal]

Multiple people, both on here and twitter, have put Fosu in their theoretical starting elevens out on the left.

[Nameless]

It's like many have Obita at left back.
Not too many credible options !
HRK has missed the entire preseason (and seems to be a bit under rated by many) and Blackman is not Mr Popular.
I don't think people suddenly think Fosu is the Messiah, he's just not HRK. Or Blackman !!

[Ian Royal]

Today he couldn't get passed his man. Other days he has done.

Same happens with McCleary.

Fosu may well be limited to sub appearances for the time being but I think he has shown enough already to indicate your judgement that he is "nowhere near ready" is overly cautious / pessimistic.

He looks to have filled out a lot in the last year or so (as you'd expect). He showed some of his Unders trying to do a little too much today. Anyone who expects him to be ready to start most of the season and regularly and consistently produce the goods is soft in the head. He's shown plenty enough that he can do damage from the bench and take up short runs starting. But people will need patience. He's young, he's inexperienced, he's learning and he's a winger. He's going to frustrate and he's going to have poor or unproductive games. It's just the way it is.

[genome]

Pepster it's spelled Paolo, not Paulo, by the way.

[Pepe the Horseman]

Yeh, one of the mods must've edited my original post.

[akranes]

Today he couldn't get passed his man. Other days he has done.

Same happens with McCleary.

Fosu may well be limited to sub appearances for the time being but I think he has shown enough already to indicate your judgement that he is "nowhere near ready" is overly cautious / pessimistic.

He looks to have filled out a lot in the last year or so (as you'd expect). He showed some of his Unders trying to do a little too much today. Anyone who expects him to be ready to start most of the season and regularly and consistently produce the goods is soft in the head. He's shown plenty enough that he can do damage from the bench and take up short runs starting. But people will need patience. He's young, he's inexperienced, he's learning and he's a winger. He's going to frustrate and he's going to have poor or unproductive games. It's just the way it is.

People need to understand this, he is a bright, energetic, young player, who was yesterday up against a pretty organised, aggressive team who knew how to deal with him and the rest of the team. People seem to forget it was also a pre-season friendly against a team that finished 10th in La Liga which, despite the argument about the quality of the league, is pretty impressive and better than what ever we can or have been. Fosu has a lot of potential and on the counter attack could grow to be devastating - although I imagine Stacey will be the starter out of the two. At least he was trying to make something yesterday and was actively moving and looking for the ball. The only irritating thing I found was that 'dive', that did seem like laziness, apart from that... he did okay, no one should be expecting him to get a couple of assists every game.

[SCIAG]

All the flip-flopping on Fosu just shows that people are forming their judgements based on a small amount of information. One promising cameo makes him better than Robson-Kanu, one disappointing performance suddenly makes him not good enough.

I'd still prefer Tanner (or Stacey) on our left wing, but Fosu is in better form so deserves to have the shirt at the start of the season.

People seem to forget it was also a pre-season friendly against a team that finished 10th in La Liga which, despite the argument about the quality of the league, is pretty impressive and better than what ever we can or have been.

We've finished 8th in the Premier League, that's a comparable achievement. But I certainly take your point - we won't play against teams that good in the Championship.

[Royal Rother]

As for the dive, or "dive", it looked like he went down easy but when it was showed in slow motion I actually thought he may well have had his legs swept from under him.

[Ian Royal]

As for the dive, or "dive", it looked like he went down easy but when it was showed in slow motion I actually thought he may well have had his legs swept from under him.

Agree. I think he probably saw he'd lost it while getting caught and just didn't fight against going down.