How impressed are you with BMcD's return to the club?

[Royal_jimmy]

McDermott is the right man at the wrong time. We needed a manager who favoured the passing style to great effect. We are now reverting to direct long ball. Should have gone for a young manager from a league 1 team. Complete waste of time.

[Ian Royal]

Agree with this. Once things weren't going our way Clarke didn't have it in him to turn things round, as he also demonstrated at WBA.

+1 Why anyone would defend Clarke given his awful record is beyond me. Took over a good West Brom side, honeymoon period then shit. Took over an underperforming Reading side and made them worse. Got heavily backed in the summer, then contrived to mismanage a flying side into freefall and go look for other jobs.

not a Clarke fan then ! As McShane said players let SC down, Fulham approached us, board agreed they could speak to SC, not other way round ..

No, because he was a useless cock. The players don't pick the side.

The board let Clarke talk to Fulham, because he said he wanted to despite their disapproval and their knowledge from past experience that refusing doesn't make the blindest bit of difference. But you'd know that if you weren't willfully ignoring reality to support Clarke over McDermott and had been a fan for more than 5 minutes.

[sandman]

McDermott is the right man at the wrong time. We needed a manager who favoured the passing style to great effect. We are now reverting to direct long ball. Should have gone for a young manager from a league 1 team. Complete waste of time.

That is a load of bollocks. We are not reverting to long ball at all, you are seeing what you want to see to suit your anti McDermott agenda.

[Lower West]

McDermott is the right man at the wrong time. We needed a manager who favoured the passing style to great effect. We are now reverting to direct long ball. Should have gone for a young manager from a league 1 team. Complete waste of time.

Care to name one?

[leon]

Cooper is a liability, proved again last night, no pace and windmill arms. He could have been taken aside ages ago and told about the shortcomings but Mc Dermott doesn't seem that sort of manager and here we are out of the cup. McDermott talks a good job but is he any better than Clarke or Adkins, I don't think so. Wife away, this is me Dave, funk off oxf*rd Royal.

Thank you for your insightful analysis.

[leon]

Whilst it was undoubtedly effective, I've never been a fan of the way that Brian gets the team to play. It's a shame because under Clarke, we were starting to play some really good stuff: pass-move football, with players creating space for each other and really good one-touch passes, to get through on goal.

Sadly, we've lost that now. Everything just feels slow and predictable, like it did under Adkins. You can tell where the ball is going long before it's kicked.

And Brian also seems to struggle with man management; the falling out with Guthrie, Sa etc.

Either way, he's in charge now and not being behind him is a waste of time. We surely don't have the cash to change managers again. He's affordable and knows the feel of the club. We can at least believe that he won't want to leave for a club offering him a bigger budget.

Your cliche machine is going to need a service after all that shit.

Come back and post when you have an original thought and a cogent argument.

[Ian Royal]

GUO of cogent Leon

[leon]

GUO of cogent Leon

I know, I didn't even call him a Cnut.

[glass half full]

This McDermott side will surprise a few doubters by going on a run and beating a few sides convincingly. They are not a bad group by any means - and Brian can galvanise them.

[Longhorn1970]

+1 Why anyone would defend Clarke given his awful record is beyond me. Took over a good West Brom side, honeymoon period then shit. Took over an underperforming Reading side and made them worse. Got heavily backed in the summer, then contrived to mismanage a flying side into freefall and go look for other jobs.

not a Clarke fan then ! As McShane said players let SC down, Fulham approached us, board agreed they could speak to SC, not other way round ..

No, because he was a useless cock. The players don't pick the side.

The board let Clarke talk to Fulham, because he said he wanted to despite their disapproval and their knowledge from past experience that refusing doesn't make the blindest bit of difference. But you'd know that if you weren't willfully ignoring reality to support Clarke over McDermott and had been a fan for more than 5 minutes.

Other than some snake feeding the press to stir it up nothing official came from the club (as usual). Are you also blaming Clarke for Feds blunder at Wembley or the fact that Al Flapsi forgot how to catch against QPR ?

[Longhorn1970]

This McDermott side will surprise a few doubters by going on a run and beating a few sides convincingly. They are not a bad group by any means - and Brian can galvanise them.

Love the optimism, how long does he get exactly before this run starts ..

[Longhorn1970]

McDermott is the right man at the wrong time. We needed a manager who favoured the passing style to great effect. We are now reverting to direct long ball. Should have gone for a young manager from a league 1 team. Complete waste of time.

That is a load of bollocks. We are not reverting to long ball at all, you are seeing what you want to see to suit your anti McDermott agenda.

Correction - we do use the long ball to good effect, tippy tappy football will not get us out this league

[Longhorn1970]

Whilst it was undoubtedly effective, I've never been a fan of the way that Brian gets the team to play. It's a shame because under Clarke, we were starting to play some really good stuff: pass-move football, with players creating space for each other and really good one-touch passes, to get through on goal.

Sadly, we've lost that now. Everything just feels slow and predictable, like it did under Adkins. You can tell where the ball is going long before it's kicked.

And Brian also seems to struggle with man management; the falling out with Guthrie, Sa etc.

Either way, he's in charge now and not being behind him is a waste of time. We surely don't have the cash to change managers again. He's affordable and knows the feel of the club. We can at least believe that he won't want to leave for a club offering him a bigger budget.

He has to first attract another club before any offers are made, should he start moving us in the right direction not the wrong direction then maybe someone will come in for him, and of course he will listen to offers, as he did this time when at the gooners ...

[Ian Royal]

not a Clarke fan then ! As McShane said players let SC down, Fulham approached us, board agreed they could speak to SC, not other way round ..

No, because he was a useless cock. The players don't pick the side.

The board let Clarke talk to Fulham, because he said he wanted to despite their disapproval and their knowledge from past experience that refusing doesn't make the blindest bit of difference. But you'd know that if you weren't willfully ignoring reality to support Clarke over McDermott and had been a fan for more than 5 minutes.

Other than some snake feeding the press to stir it up nothing official came from the club (as usual). Are you also blaming Clarke for Feds blunder at Wembley or the fact that Al Flapsi forgot how to catch against QPR ?

Actually, Howe was very open about what had happened, once it was dealt with. There was even a press conference that included Clarke.

Noticable that Al-Habsi hasn't made a serious error since McDermott came in, but no I don't blame Clarke for goalkeeping errors. I blame Clarke for being a shit manager with a shit record.

[Longhorn1970]

No, because he was a useless cock. The players don't pick the side.

The board let Clarke talk to Fulham, because he said he wanted to despite their disapproval and their knowledge from past experience that refusing doesn't make the blindest bit of difference. But you'd know that if you weren't willfully ignoring reality to support Clarke over McDermott and had been a fan for more than 5 minutes.

Other than some snake feeding the press to stir it up nothing official came from the club (as usual). Are you also blaming Clarke for Feds blunder at Wembley or the fact that Al Flapsi forgot how to catch against QPR ?

Actually, Howe was very open about what had happened, once it was dealt with. There was even a press conference that included Clarke.

Noticable that Al-Habsi hasn't made a serious error since McDermott came in, but no I don't blame Clarke for goalkeeping errors. I blame Clarke for being a shit manager with a shit record.

Oh dear we are upset, SC brought in Al Flapsi and Dave Beasant not BM !

[Ian Royal]

Other than some snake feeding the press to stir it up nothing official came from the club (as usual). Are you also blaming Clarke for Feds blunder at Wembley or the fact that Al Flapsi forgot how to catch against QPR ?

Actually, Howe was very open about what had happened, once it was dealt with. There was even a press conference that included Clarke.

Noticable that Al-Habsi hasn't made a serious error since McDermott came in, but no I don't blame Clarke for goalkeeping errors. I blame Clarke for being a shit manager with a shit record.

Oh dear we are upset, SC brought in Al Flapsi and Dave Beasant not BM !

I'm not upset in the least. It's you bitching and moaning about stuff, not me. I didn't say McDermott brought in Al-Habsi or Beasant. I merely (correctly) pointed out that since McDermott has come in we've had no more goalkeeping howlers.

[Longhorn1970]

Actually, Howe was very open about what had happened, once it was dealt with. There was even a press conference that included Clarke.

Noticable that Al-Habsi hasn't made a serious error since McDermott came in, but no I don't blame Clarke for goalkeeping errors. I blame Clarke for being a shit manager with a shit record.

Oh dear we are upset, SC brought in Al Flapsi and Dave Beasant not BM !

I'm not upset in the least. It's you bitching and moaning about stuff, not me. I didn't say McDermott brought in Al-Habsi or Beasant. I merely (correctly) pointed out that since McDermott has come in we've had no more goalkeeping howlers.

Lets just gloss over those signings then (which SC takes credit for), lets also gloss over Feds mistake at Wembley and the fact SC took us to 2nd in this league with no money, £4m for Hector etc.
Back to al Flapsi's improved form which you somehow attribute to BM, does BM also take credit for Norwoods dip in form, Hector going backwards, HRK's indifferent performances etc.

[leon]

Oh dear we are upset, SC brought in Al Flapsi and Dave Beasant not BM !

I'm not upset in the least. It's you bitching and moaning about stuff, not me. I didn't say McDermott brought in Al-Habsi or Beasant. I merely (correctly) pointed out that since McDermott has come in we've had no more goalkeeping howlers.

Lets just gloss over those signings then (which SC takes credit for), lets also gloss over Feds mistake at Wembley and the fact SC took us to 2nd in this league with no money, £4m for Hector etc.
Back to al Flapsi's improved form which you somehow attribute to BM, does BM also take credit for Norwoods dip in form, Hector going backwards, HRK's indifferent performances etc.

Are you a retard? Or are you Kes? ( ie all of the above) Honest question.

HRK is playing better than he has for 2 years and Hector is being praised for his defensive midfield role that he's excelling in.

Yeah Norwood is struggling but that actually started quite a while ago.

Oh and at you "glossing over" being wrong.

[Longhorn1970]

I'm not upset in the least. It's you bitching and moaning about stuff, not me. I didn't say McDermott brought in Al-Habsi or Beasant. I merely (correctly) pointed out that since McDermott has come in we've had no more goalkeeping howlers.

Lets just gloss over those signings then (which SC takes credit for), lets also gloss over Feds mistake at Wembley and the fact SC took us to 2nd in this league with no money, £4m for Hector etc.
Back to al Flapsi's improved form which you somehow attribute to BM, does BM also take credit for Norwoods dip in form, Hector going backwards, HRK's indifferent performances etc.

Are you a retard? Or are you Kes? ( ie all of the above) Honest question.

HRK is playing better than he has for 2 years and Hector is being praised for his defensive midfield role that he's excelling in.

Yeah Norwood is struggling but that actually started quite a while ago.

Oh and at you "glossing over" being wrong.

That's why we're stuck in mid lower league obscurity ? Opinions are like arseholes, everyone has one ..

[Ian Royal]

Oh dear we are upset, SC brought in Al Flapsi and Dave Beasant not BM !

I'm not upset in the least. It's you bitching and moaning about stuff, not me. I didn't say McDermott brought in Al-Habsi or Beasant. I merely (correctly) pointed out that since McDermott has come in we've had no more goalkeeping howlers.

Lets just gloss over those signings then (which SC takes credit for), lets also gloss over Feds mistake at Wembley and the fact SC took us to 2nd in this league with no money, £4m for Hector etc.
Back to al Flapsi's improved form which you somehow attribute to BM, does BM also take credit for Norwoods dip in form, Hector going backwards, HRK's indifferent performances etc.

Actually, I didn't attribute it to McDermott, I pointed out something that could be McDermott's influence.

As it happens, I think McDermott has an element of involvement in Norwood's dip in form because I think he's asking him to do something slightly different. But then, Norwood having a poor second half of the season happened under Clarke too didn't it.

Fact is, Clarke did a shit job over the course of a year and was judged on how he performed after being able to build his own team and having had time to address problems of the previous management (2nd in September/October means bugger all, he was also the man who had us in free fall in November - and he certainly had money, he made about 13 signings, just because it wasn't headline £s for transfer fees to impress simpletons doesn't mean he didn't have money). McDermott is currently going through what Clarke went through last year, and doing a better job than Clarke did. And I rather strongly suspect come December 2016 he'll have had at least as good a start to next season as Clarke managed this season.

If you want to spend your time bitching and whining about how a shit manager got the push and you don't like the new guy, that's your look out, I just don't really understand why an actual fan would want to. Look forward ffs.