Brighton and Reading fans............

[Maguire]

Brighton and Reading are pretty similar clubs, Brighton just a few years back in terms of evolution. Not a jibe - they got the new ground 15ish years later than us and only now are they regulars at the top end of the table.

I'm sure they'll go up eventually, get bought by some foreign chancer with no money, lose their identity, sign Royston Drenthe on a million pounds a week and so begin the slow slide back to League One.

I think the main reason they hate us is that they know we're pretty much the same.

[windermere_royal]

Brighton fan in peace............

More petty name calling between fans of both Reading and Brighton following the cup draw. It IS a disappointing draw for all concerned because we play each other so often these days, NOT because one club or set of fans have bragging rights over the other. This really pisses me off and though its obvious to most of us, I wanted to come on here and say, as always, its only a small minority of keyboard warriors and the odd fan that thinks to travelling to a near neighbour's ground makes them an 'Uber' fan, that peddles this nonsense.

I have fond memories of Elm Park (it was actually a pretty horrible place at the time as was the Goldstone but perhaps rose tinted spectacles makes the old 'proper' grounds now seem a lot better than they really were) which I went to regularly when living in Reading for a few years in the '80s. Reading have always retained a place in my heart since and I was chuffed when you got your new ground, new success and lets be honest, new fans. The recent years at Brighton have followed a very similar pattern and to me its great that the middle size clubs like Reading, Brighton and even (shock horror!) Palace are able to compete at a decent level in today's premiership focused world. I don't think its hard being a Brighton or Reading fan as we get our days in the sun every now and then (unlike fans of clubs like Walsall, Hartlepool or Bury - their fans are genuine 'uber' football fans in my book). We are lucky and should appreciate our good fortune, not snipe at those who have been similarly blessed. In fact we should all be backing each other with pride against the clubs that have completely lost the link with their fan bases such as Arsenal and Chelsea and their new fans that think the world has ended when they finish second (or god forbid third) in the premiership. THAT is an overblown sense of entitlement!

This will probably fall on deaf ears but there is every reason for respect between our clubs and fans!

I lost all respect for your lot Easter 1970 when stood behind the goal at the Goldstone I clearly saw Kit Napier punch the ball into the net and despite strong protests from our players the ref allowed the goal. That gave you an undeserved 2-1 win and put an end to a great run which had put us in contention for promotion. That injustice seem to have destroyed our confidence and we went on a terrible run losing to Luton 5 nil in the next game.
As my dad said at the time Brighton are a bunch of cheating bar stewards and I have seen nothing since to change that view.

I remember it very well, in front of more than 30,000 fans. i was there and at Luton too. queueing up to get in and saw Malcom McDonald walk by. then the barsteward scored a hat trick.

[Green]

Who was it who said football fans have long memories? I always forget

[Gullet]

Brighton hate us more than Palace now, although won't admit it

Definitely not true! The anti Palace feeling runs deep in some but I think many, if not most, have long moved on. But if it there is hatred towards anyone its definitely Palace. It would be nice to think that whilst 'hate' was definitely the right word in the '70s and '80s, 'rivalry' is what it is all about now. I think Reading are worthy rivals to us (and vice versa) these days but I'm not sure there is 'hatred' (except again for a few spotty idiots that think they are hard and clever by posting on a message board what they wouldn't dare say to your face).

A few posters ask why the rivalry exists between us and I think its just geography and time spent recently fighting to get out the same league, a bit of jealousy on our behalf when you were flying high and of course Steve Coppell. But remember most Brighton fans don't know why our main rivals are Palace - they just are!

All the Brighton fans I know would largely agree with my viewpoint - not just about Reading but about the cr*ap that our idiots spout on social media. Every club has them and we're no different.

Ps thanks for the welcome (by some of you anyway!)

[Gullet]

Hi Gullet welcome to the board. Can you recommend anywhere decent to go in Brighton on a stag do for leon please
http://hobnob.royals.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=133244

I don't live in Brighton so not much help I'm afraid. I suppose the Amex just wouldn't cut it??

[Pepe the Horseman]

Where do you live, Gullet?

[leon]

What are you wearing, Gullet?

[Green]

Where do you live, Gullet?

And what's the best destination you've been to for a stag do

[Pepe the Horseman]

Ooh, good one!

[tmesis]

and Rubblestick noneses of recent years/still going on probably doesn't help much either.

I always find the stick we get for rumblestix and other similar initiatives a bit strange, because the one thing they all have in common is that they were a total failure, completely and utterly rejected by the fans.


While there's history with Brighton, I think think a lot of other clubs hate us because we are seen as a "middle class" club from a middle class town. With the growth of the club since moving grounds, we are seen as the equivalent of social climbers, who apparently look down on their former peers and don't know their place. We got the snobbery of people who won't accept us as our new peers, and inverse snobbery from those who imagine we look down on them now. We're not small enough to earn sympathy, and not big enough to earn respect, and we are seen.

[Blue Label]

http://wearebrighton.com/blog/2016/08/brighton-handed-most-boring-efl-cup-draw-imaginable/

Who do these tossers think they are

[Ian Royal]

Brighton and Reading are pretty similar clubs, Brighton just a few years back in terms of evolution. Not a jibe - they got the new ground 15ish years later than us and only now are they regulars at the top end of the table.

I'm sure they'll go up eventually, get bought by some foreign chancer with no money, lose their identity, sign Royston Drenthe on a million pounds a week and so begin the slow slide back to League One.

I think the main reason they hate us is that they know we're pretty much the same.

+ lots

[Armadillo Roadkill]

Didn't it all start in about 2003 / 2004? - they wanted more than the 4,000 ticket allocation we were giving them for some match because they were such a massive club with a long history and we were plastics in a plastic out of town stadium etc. etc. blah blah blah.

Either way, irrational dislikes are as much a part of football as irrational likes. And I really dislike the sh1t that spread all over their message boards every time we play them. So I enjoy disliking BHA the way I enjoy liking Reading.

[Ian Royal]

and Rubblestick noneses of recent years/still going on probably doesn't help much either.

I always find the stick we get for rumblestix and other similar initiatives a bit strange, because the one thing they all have in common is that they were a total failure, completely and utterly rejected by the fans.


While there's history with Brighton, I think think a lot of other clubs hate us because we are seen as a "middle class" club from a middle class town. With the growth of the club since moving grounds, we are seen as the equivalent of social climbers, who apparently look down on their former peers and don't know their place. We got the snobbery of people who won't accept us as our new peers, and inverse snobbery from those who imagine we look down on them now. We're not small enough to earn sympathy, and not big enough to earn respect, and we are seen.

Probably pretty close.

I'd say those we're roughly on a par with now, or have been recently, look down on us as massive upstarts who don't know our place. And those we used it slum it with look at us with resentment about how we actually successfully stepped up to a new level and they haven't. Then there's the middle class element.

[harry]

Didn't it all start in about 2003 / 2004? - they wanted more than the 4,000 ticket allocation we were giving them for some match because they were such a massive club with a long history and we were plastics in a plastic out of town stadium etc. etc. blah blah blah.

Either way, irrational dislikes are as much a part of football as irrational likes. And I really dislike the sh1t that spread all over their message boards every time we play them. So I enjoy disliking BHA the way I enjoy liking Reading.

How about 2001/2 when our away game at BHA was originally scheduled for the Friday night before Christmas. So had to take a day off work to beat the M25 gridlock. Then the game got postponed at the last minute because of a "frozen pitch" when it wasn't even cold - suspect Zamora had pulled a hammy.
So we ended up having the game rescheduled for a Monday and with Swindon away on the Thursday ended up with 4 games in a week, giving BHA a significant advantage in the title race.
That postponement was really iffy.

[Nameless]

Hard to think other fans look down on us as 'upstarts' when we have a longer history than every single one of them !

Likewise stuff like Rumblestix, which appeared very briefly at a couple of games when they were very new and our marketing manager was mates with the guy who was bringing them into the country and actually asked us to give them a go. We've not used them since although many of these high and mighty clubs used them after us, and also continue to force clappers on their fans too.
I actually think that the 'hate' coming from a small number of fans is pretty much just plain jealousy. In Brighton's case it's just the fact we're so much more successful than them !

[bobby1413]

and Rubblestick noneses of recent years/still going on probably doesn't help much either.

I always find the stick we get for rumblestix and other similar initiatives a bit strange, because the one thing they all have in common is that they were a total failure, completely and utterly rejected by the fans.


While there's history with Brighton, I think think a lot of other clubs hate us because we are seen as a "middle class" club from a middle class town. With the growth of the club since moving grounds, we are seen as the equivalent of social climbers, who apparently look down on their former peers and don't know their place. We got the snobbery of people who won't accept us as our new peers, and inverse snobbery from those who imagine we look down on them now. We're not small enough to earn sympathy, and not big enough to earn respect, and we are seen.

I always find it funny when people refer to us as a middle class club in a middle class town and then others say "Reading's a complete dump" or a "shit hole"... granted there's only a few I've heard on either side say this and it's just comments with nothing to back it up.

Are we more "middle class" than Brighton? Or are they all too hip and trendy to be put into a category like that. Where does Swindon fit in to that, or Oxford, Watford, Southampton, Bournemouth, etc...

It's all just sh1te that as Gullet says, a few knobbers online say

[CountryRoyal]

and Rubblestick noneses of recent years/still going on probably doesn't help much either.

I always find the stick we get for rumblestix and other similar initiatives a bit strange, because the one thing they all have in common is that they were a total failure, completely and utterly rejected by the fans.


While there's history with Brighton, I think think a lot of other clubs hate us because we are seen as a "middle class" club from a middle class town. With the growth of the club since moving grounds, we are seen as the equivalent of social climbers, who apparently look down on their former peers and don't know their place. We got the snobbery of people who won't accept us as our new peers, and inverse snobbery from those who imagine we look down on them now. We're not small enough to earn sympathy, and not big enough to earn respect, and we are seen.

I always find it funny when people refer to us as a middle class club in a middle class town and then others say "Reading's a complete dump" or a "shit hole"... granted there's only a few I've heard on either side say this and it's just comments with nothing to back it up.

Are we more "middle class" than Brighton? Or are they all too hip and trendy to be put into a category like that. Where does Swindon fit in to that, or Oxford, Watford, Southampton, Bournemouth, etc...

It's all just sh1te that as Gullet says, a few knobbers online say

In descending order of least shitty to most shitty I would say;

Oxford
Brighton
Reading
Bournemouth
Watford
Southampton
Swindon

[bobby1413]

I'd have a lot more respect for some of the Brighton fans who are derogatory about us if they didn't continually slate us and then say "I really couldn't care less about that tinpot club".

I quite like the feeling of animosity/negativity between the two clubs (or some fans) as I think it adds an extra bit of interest and spice to a game. It's one of those things that comes and goes potentially, but either way I think it's good, and I like that about football.

It's like our games about 8-10 years ago against Sheffield United were always quite fruity, and that continued for a few years - just makes it a bit more interesting.

[bobby1413]

I always find the stick we get for rumblestix and other similar initiatives a bit strange, because the one thing they all have in common is that they were a total failure, completely and utterly rejected by the fans.


While there's history with Brighton, I think think a lot of other clubs hate us because we are seen as a "middle class" club from a middle class town. With the growth of the club since moving grounds, we are seen as the equivalent of social climbers, who apparently look down on their former peers and don't know their place. We got the snobbery of people who won't accept us as our new peers, and inverse snobbery from those who imagine we look down on them now. We're not small enough to earn sympathy, and not big enough to earn respect, and we are seen.

I always find it funny when people refer to us as a middle class club in a middle class town and then others say "Reading's a complete dump" or a "shit hole"... granted there's only a few I've heard on either side say this and it's just comments with nothing to back it up.

Are we more "middle class" than Brighton? Or are they all too hip and trendy to be put into a category like that. Where does Swindon fit in to that, or Oxford, Watford, Southampton, Bournemouth, etc...

It's all just sh1te that as Gullet says, a few knobbers online say

In descending order of least shitty to most shitty I would say;

Oxford
Brighton
Reading
Bournemouth
Watford
Southampton
Swindon

I've only been to Oxford a few times but didn't like it, been to Brighton once for football so can't really comment.

Bournemouth I've been to a few times for a weekend break and it's OK, been a long time since I've been there so hard to remember clearly.

Southampton, Watford, Swindon - only been for football so can't comment. I work with a girl from Swindon who is annoying, so for that reason I don't like it