Copa America 2019

[Winston Biscuit]

draw made

Group A
Brazil
Peru
Venezuela
Bolivia

Group B
Argentina
Colombia
Paraguay
Qatar

Group C
Uruguay
Chile
Japan
Ecuador

yep, that's right, Japan & Qatar!

top 2 from each group and the 2 best 3rd placed teams make up the QF's

Chile are the current champions. Argies not won it for 26 years, Brazil not won it for 12 years

[Old Man Andrews]

WHAT THE oxf*rd IS THAT??????????????? Japan and Qatar?????? What a mockery of a disgrace of a pile of horse shit.

[Sutekh]

What happened to Surinam and Guyana? Let me guess they're going to be part of CONCACAF aren't they? Still make more sense to invite them though.

[Silver Fox]

i can only surmise that Qatar's inclusion is some sort of FIFA plan to make it look like they're a footballing nation ahead of 2022

[stealthpapes]

Copa America 2016 was held in the USA and included US, Mexico and 4 other Caribbean/central american teams. This sort of thing is not new news. Since 1993, its included other countries - Mexico have played in every iteration since then.

Japan couldn't make it one time relatively recently, so I imagine that's why they're here now.

Can't defend Qatar mind.

[stealthpapes]

What happened to Surinam and Guyana? Let me guess they're going to be part of CONCACAF aren't they? Still make more sense to invite them though.

Surinam and Guyana are in CONCACAF, as is French Guiana. But I think French Guiana is an overseas department of France so there's a chance that they might do things differently.

[Don't Panic]

With it being held in Brazill this year, gotta fancy them to win it for the first time in 12yrs.

[Stranded]

With Japan playing Qatar in the Asian Cup final, the Copa is guaranteed to have the Asian champions and runner up in it as guests.

[Sanguine]

What's occurring with the scheduling of this tournament? It was held in 2015 and 2016 (both won by Chile), now in 2019, and again next year, with a gap then to 2024.

Argentina not having won this since 1992 is mental.

Just found the 2011 edition, where brilliantly, Paraguay got to the final without winning a game. They qualified third from their group by drawing all three games, and then beat Brazil and Venezuela (who were, strangely, also their group opponents) on penalties.

[stealthpapes]

What's occurring with the scheduling of this tournament? It was held in 2015 and 2016 (both won by Chile), now in 2019, and again next year, with a gap then to 2024.

Argentina not having won this since 1992 is mental.

Just found the 2011 edition, where brilliantly, Paraguay got to the final without winning a game. They qualified third from their group by drawing all three games, and then beat Brazil and Venezuela (who were, strangely, also their group opponents) on penalties.

2016 was a celebration of the 100 year anniversary, so, yeah fair enough.

I think they've then decided to switch to even years, essentially to coincide with the Euros.

They recently did something similar with the ACN, so there were two tournaments in two years a short while back.

[Stranded]

What's occurring with the scheduling of this tournament? It was held in 2015 and 2016 (both won by Chile), now in 2019, and again next year, with a gap then to 2024.

Argentina not having won this since 1992 is mental.

Just found the 2011 edition, where brilliantly, Paraguay got to the final without winning a game. They qualified third from their group by drawing all three games, and then beat Brazil and Venezuela (who were, strangely, also their group opponents) on penalties.

2016 was a celebration of the 100 year anniversary, so, yeah fair enough.

I think they've then decided to switch to even years, essentially to coincide with the Euros.

They recently did something similar with the ACN, so there were two tournaments in two years a short while back.

Yep, shifting it to every 4 years in even years, so fits in with the Euros. In fact it will run between the same dates - 12th June to 12th July.

There are even plans to increase the participants to 16 meaning 6 invitees, so could well see some European nations who just miss out on Euro qualification being invited over alongside the usual North American/Asia invites.

ACON was shifted to odd years as it is still run every 2 years but as it was moved to the summer, they had to shift to odd to avoid clashing with the World Cup every few years.

[Winston Biscuit]

Venezuela 0-0 Peru
Argentina 0-2 Colombia
Brazil 3-0 Bolivia

[Winston Biscuit]

Uruguay 4-0 Ecuador
Paraguay 2-2 Qatar

That Paraguay result is a big let off for Argentina

[Sanguine]

Uruguay 4-0 Ecuador
Paraguay 2-2 Qatar

That Paraguay result is a big let off for Argentina

Yep, the Argies beat Qatar 2-0 at the weekend, so ultimately that draw puts them through at Paraguay's expense.

[Winston Biscuit]

QF line up

Brazil Vs Paraguay
Venezuela Vs Argentina
Colombia Vs Chile
Uruguay Vs Peru

Nice potential Argies Vs Brazil semi there

3 of those ties have an obvious heavyweight Vs underdog look to them but the Colombia Vs Chile one looks fascinating. Colombia are always talked up as being the up and coming team in South America right now and they are the only team in this who won all 3 group games

[sandman]

https://streamable.com/29cdq

Suarez appealing for handball in Uruguay's latest match.

[From Despair To Where?]

What's occurring with the scheduling of this tournament? It was held in 2015 and 2016 (both won by Chile), now in 2019, and again next year, with a gap then to 2024.

Argentina not having won this since 1992 is mental.

Just found the 2011 edition, where brilliantly, Paraguay got to the final without winning a game. They qualified third from their group by drawing all three games, and then beat Brazil and Venezuela (who were, strangely, also their group opponents) on penalties.

2016 was a celebration of the 100 year anniversary, so, yeah fair enough.

I think they've then decided to switch to even years, essentially to coincide with the Euros.

They recently did something similar with the ACN, so there were two tournaments in two years a short while back.

Yep, shifting it to every 4 years in even years, so fits in with the Euros. In fact it will run between the same dates - 12th June to 12th July.

There are even plans to increase the participants to 16 meaning 6 invitees, so could well see some European nations who just miss out on Euro qualification being invited over alongside the usual North American/Asia invites.

ACON was shifted to odd years as it is still run every 2 years but as it was moved to the summer, they had to shift to odd to avoid clashing with the World Cup every few years.

The ACON has gone are but mental. Still every 2 years but in the years it's not on they have another ACON where countries can only select players from their own domestic league.

[The Enfield Royal71]

Chile and Peru pull of major shocks to get to the semis against each other.

Brazil v Argentina in the other semis.

Can Argentina finally break their duck of losing in copa america finals? Will messi finally, in surely his final chance, win an international tournament?

[Stranded]

Chile and Peru pull of major shocks to get to the semis against each other.

Brazil v Argentina in the other semis.

Can Argentina finally break their duck of losing in copa america finals? Will messi finally, in surely his final chance, win an international tournament?

Is getting a 0-0 draw over 90 mins and winning the immediate penalty shoot-out really a major shock?

[The Enfield Royal71]

Chile and Peru pull of major shocks to get to the semis against each other.

Brazil v Argentina in the other semis.

Can Argentina finally break their duck of losing in copa america finals? Will messi finally, in surely his final chance, win an international tournament?

Is getting a 0-0 draw over 90 mins and winning the immediate penalty shoot-out really a major shock?

I think it can be considered a shock.... maybe not major.