by Snowflake Royal » 06 Aug 2019 08:12
by WestYorksRoyal » 06 Aug 2019 08:32
by Hound » 06 Aug 2019 09:00
by Stranded » 06 Aug 2019 09:27
Snowflake Royal Maybe we've decided the money spent beyond FFP will gain us more points than we'd lose from a points deduction.
More likely we're closing in on shifting more cost and anticipating money for Hector as already said.
by Hound » 06 Aug 2019 09:30
by The Enfield Royal71 » 06 Aug 2019 14:00
by Mid Sussex Royal » 06 Aug 2019 21:05
WestYorksRoyal If we spent £5m on Joao and gave a 3 year contract, the expense would be spread (I.e. £1.67m per year). Maybe it's not so unreasonable, but it also means expenses already incurred going into future years.
by WestYorksRoyal » 07 Aug 2019 08:14
by The Enfield Royal71 » 07 Aug 2019 08:17
by paultheroyal » 07 Aug 2019 08:23
WestYorksRoyal Right, time to say it. I'm really concerned by this Puscas rumour that looks true. Yesterday's business looked rational, but this just looks like tipping point.
Rafael was a free and Pele was a loan, so they are sensible. The club may still be hoping to move on a couple of high earners, in particular Gunter, but overall I understand how they don't screw us. Joao's fee was supposedly financed by the Hector sell on fee and structured to ensure a greater expense hit our account next year, after the £20m loss goes off our FFP calculation.
I don't know what Howe et. al know, but given everything we've heard this summer, I simply don't understand how that leaves room to smash our transfer record, however we structure it. If we funnel the expense into future years, it's a short term fix; not a long term solution.
My worry is that this has come from the owners, who do occasionally get involved and are ambitious. I like our owners overall; Bearwood is a great development and the free away travel is a fantastic gesture. But they don't know the English game like Howe, who presided over such a successful era.
I also don't see a clear need for Puscas. We are well stocked in attacking positions now, and I want a chance for Loader, Olise and Barrett to push on this season. Puscas pushes that door shut a little more. The 3 other signings seemed to fill a clear need in the squad; this doesn't.
I share the desire to the Premier League again, but it doesn't have to be this session. We need to develop the foundations of the squad, and add a few key acquisitions year on year until our team is awesome, as in 2006.
Maybe it's suspicion through experience. In SJMs era, we dreamed of weeks like this and they never happened. But we consistently played good football and were in the promotion mix. Since that era ended, which I view as triggered by the disastrous Pogrebnyak signing, we've lost that. Our recruitment has not had any sort of strategy and it's resulted in dross. I hope I'm wrong and this is different, but surely a bit of caution is rational?
The best thing about this is that Aluko will no longer be our record signing; one embarrassing record lost.
by Stranded » 07 Aug 2019 08:32
WestYorksRoyal Right, time to say it. I'm really concerned by this Puscas rumour that looks true. Yesterday's business looked rational, but this just looks like tipping point.
Rafael was a free and Pele was a loan, so they are sensible. The club may still be hoping to move on a couple of high earners, in particular Gunter, but overall I understand how they don't screw us. Joao's fee was supposedly financed by the Hector sell on fee and structured to ensure a greater expense hit our account next year, after the £20m loss goes off our FFP calculation.
I don't know what Howe et. al know, but given everything we've heard this summer, I simply don't understand how that leaves room to smash our transfer record, however we structure it. If we funnel the expense into future years, it's a short term fix; not a long term solution.
My worry is that this has come from the owners, who do occasionally get involved and are ambitious. I like our owners overall; Bearwood is a great development and the free away travel is a fantastic gesture. But they don't know the English game like Howe, who presided over such a successful era.
I also don't see a clear need for Puscas. We are well stocked in attacking positions now, and I want a chance for Loader, Olise and Barrett to push on this season. Puscas pushes that door shut a little more. The 3 other signings seemed to fill a clear need in the squad; this doesn't.
I share the desire to the Premier League again, but it doesn't have to be this session. We need to develop the foundations of the squad, and add a few key acquisitions year on year until our team is awesome, as in 2006.
Maybe it's suspicion through experience. In SJMs era, we dreamed of weeks like this and they never happened. But we consistently played good football and were in the promotion mix. Since that era ended, which I view as triggered by the disastrous Pogrebnyak signing, we've lost that. Our recruitment has not had any sort of strategy and it's resulted in dross. I hope I'm wrong and this is different, but surely a bit of caution is rational?
The best thing about this is that Aluko will no longer be our record signing; one embarrassing record lost.
by paddy20 » 07 Aug 2019 08:35
by WestYorksRoyal » 07 Aug 2019 08:35
by paddy20 » 07 Aug 2019 08:35
by NotARacist » 07 Aug 2019 08:36
WestYorksRoyal The other FFP consideration is that top Championship talent can fetch £20m+ these days. If Puscas destroys this league, or Olise develops as we hope, we could be in for a big windfall in a couple of years.
by Nameless » 07 Aug 2019 08:39
paddy20 Just as we thought we were getting to grips with FFP everything seems to have been turned on its head. Will Howe enlighten us or are we just going for points and accepting a 9 pt deduction as inevitable anyway so lets make it worthwhile.
by Hound » 07 Aug 2019 09:02
by Nameless » 07 Aug 2019 09:09
Hound Think Puscas is very much a case of seeing an opportunity for a very highly rated young striker at good value.
If he was 28 I'd be a little unhappy. But he could turn out to be a cracking signing based on clips/reports, so I'll trust Howe and co on this one
As I said in another thread, losing Gunter, McCleary and Popa (if we do) probably pays for this and Joao wages wise for this season. Maybe we also have an offer in for Baldock or Novakovich as well
by windermereROYAL » 07 Aug 2019 09:15
paddy20 Just as we thought we were getting to grips with FFP everything seems to have been turned on its head. Will Howe enlighten us or are we just going for points and accepting a 9 pt deduction as inevitable anyway so lets make it worthwhile.
by Nameless » 07 Aug 2019 09:18
windermereROYALpaddy20 Just as we thought we were getting to grips with FFP everything seems to have been turned on its head. Will Howe enlighten us or are we just going for points and accepting a 9 pt deduction as inevitable anyway so lets make it worthwhile.
9 points is not carved in stone, could be more if the league deem we`ve done it purposely.
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