by Millsy » 09 Dec 2019 14:28
by Millsy » 09 Dec 2019 15:41
URZZZZ2 world wars, 1 world cup What an AWFUL performance by so many.
Boye. Just **** off. I've seen enough now and have sussed him out. Fine to play him when you've nothing to lose and could do with a creative spark 1 in 10 times with losing the ball and zero shite end product the rest of the time. But to bring him on early when we still have a chance when you have João on the bench. No thanks.
Richards. Losing the plot more every game. Some good moments but still the liability I always thought he was defensively. Error cost us a point effectively.
Bowen - totally screwed up here. Should have won comfortably against a team who made enforced changes. Miazga off. Wtf!??? We always look shite without him. 442 so early when we don't have the wingers or defenders for it and with no bottle in midfield? No wonder we were TOTALLY raped in midfield and Morrison lost the plot in defence. Boye a possible winger (whatever the frik he is) sent up front. GMac on the wrong side. God knows who or why playing on the right. A total mess. His only saving grace was bringing on Adam who was shockingly just excellent.
Which leads me onto positives.
Adam. Brilliant. Controlled the game. Nuff said.
João. Did good.
Overall this won't be popular but I place this defeat at the door of Bowen who just lost the plot.
Am I the only one missing something with Richards? How did he cost us a point? At the time he made his mistake for the goal, we were losing 2-1, his error just made it game over but he didn’t cost us a point
For the record, why should we have “comfortably won” against them? A side unbeaten in three, haven’t lost by more than one goal more than once since the end of August, don’t concede many, went toe to toe with Leeds at Elland Road? It was an awful display and a disappointing result, but I certainly wasn’t expecting an comfortable game
Interested to see why everyone is hyping up Joao, goal aside, he was his poor usual self of dancing around holding onto the ball for too long, missing one of the best chances for an equaliser
by Millsy » 09 Dec 2019 15:46
by 3points » 09 Dec 2019 16:22
Hound Agreed on Maghoma as well. The guy he replaced was meant to be one of their danger men, but thought Maghoma made a big difference to them. Looked a good player
by 3points » 09 Dec 2019 16:23
2 world wars, 1 world cup Re: Cabral, he's meh.
He's someone who just does a job. Not good. Not woeful. He's just someone who doesn't make howlers but who isn't great either. Not a promotion winning keeper. Just about ok.
I always feel nervous when he comes out and punches and feel he parries and punches more than most keepers rather than catching. Just the impression I get.
by URZZZZ » 09 Dec 2019 16:54
2 world wars, 1 world cupURZZZZ2 world wars, 1 world cup What an AWFUL performance by so many.
Boye. Just **** off. I've seen enough now and have sussed him out. Fine to play him when you've nothing to lose and could do with a creative spark 1 in 10 times with losing the ball and zero shite end product the rest of the time. But to bring him on early when we still have a chance when you have João on the bench. No thanks.
Richards. Losing the plot more every game. Some good moments but still the liability I always thought he was defensively. Error cost us a point effectively.
Bowen - totally screwed up here. Should have won comfortably against a team who made enforced changes. Miazga off. Wtf!??? We always look shite without him. 442 so early when we don't have the wingers or defenders for it and with no bottle in midfield? No wonder we were TOTALLY raped in midfield and Morrison lost the plot in defence. Boye a possible winger (whatever the frik he is) sent up front. GMac on the wrong side. God knows who or why playing on the right. A total mess. His only saving grace was bringing on Adam who was shockingly just excellent.
Which leads me onto positives.
Adam. Brilliant. Controlled the game. Nuff said.
João. Did good.
Overall this won't be popular but I place this defeat at the door of Bowen who just lost the plot.
Am I the only one missing something with Richards? How did he cost us a point? At the time he made his mistake for the goal, we were losing 2-1, his error just made it game over but he didn’t cost us a point
For the record, why should we have “comfortably won” against them? A side unbeaten in three, haven’t lost by more than one goal more than once since the end of August, don’t concede many, went toe to toe with Leeds at Elland Road? It was an awful display and a disappointing result, but I certainly wasn’t expecting an comfortable game
Interested to see why everyone is hyping up Joao, goal aside, he was his poor usual self of dancing around holding onto the ball for too long, missing one of the best chances for an equaliser
You're right. Not just a point. Possibly three i.e. his total ****up like that basically made it game over as you say. A chance of drawing/ possibly winning as we are known to do from 1 goal deficits nowdays totally crushed by that ridiculous mistake.
As for comfortably beating yeah I do believe we should've won. I believe we were better till the freak own goal and could and should have gone on to win. Just my opinion though.
Likewise João in my opinion was good. Definitely a million times better than Boye up front. Again just my thoughts and I respect anyone who differs obviously.
Back to Richards the point is we all know unfortunately he still has defensive errors in him and going 4-4-2 and pushing up ridiculously ineffectively even at 1-1 for no obvious reason was a poor call.
by Hound » 09 Dec 2019 17:37
by URZZZZ » 09 Dec 2019 17:52
by Snowflake Royal » 09 Dec 2019 17:54
HendoStrandedpaultheroyal Also - that was poor goalkeeping from Raphael. He literally had to just jump to save as he was way over that side, infact you could argue he was to much over. He is not a goalkeeper who seems to be able to dive and fly through the air for those high shots.
He shifted his weight to the left just before the Brum player struck, probably half expecting that is where he would be putting it - as soon as he did he was always going to struggle to get back and more importantly get the spring needed to keep it out. Just a very good free kick.
That is how I saw it as well. The little step to the left killed him.
by Hound » 09 Dec 2019 18:04
URZZZZ I appreciate that but with a lot of youngsters, you can sort of tell whether they’ve got it and roughly estimate their potential. I’ve no reason to believe Olise won’t become a top top player one day yet I can’t ever see East becoming more than a league two player. Whereas with Richards I can’t tell
by Snowflake Royal » 09 Dec 2019 18:09
HoundURZZZZ I appreciate that but with a lot of youngsters, you can sort of tell whether they’ve got it and roughly estimate their potential. I’ve no reason to believe Olise won’t become a top top player one day yet I can’t ever see East becoming more than a league two player. Whereas with Richards I can’t tell
Fair enough, yes can see what you mean
Suspect personally he has the ability. I didn’t think he was particularly awful on Saturday tbh; no worse than the rest of them
by URZZZZ » 09 Dec 2019 23:56
Snowflake RoyalHoundURZZZZ I appreciate that but with a lot of youngsters, you can sort of tell whether they’ve got it and roughly estimate their potential. I’ve no reason to believe Olise won’t become a top top player one day yet I can’t ever see East becoming more than a league two player. Whereas with Richards I can’t tell
Fair enough, yes can see what you mean
Suspect personally he has the ability. I didn’t think he was particularly awful on Saturday tbh; no worse than the rest of them
Slightly worrying sign with Omar is that he does seem to commit quite a few silly free kicks and commit himself poorly at times.
Seems stronger and better in possession compared to previous seasons, and obvs still young.
Like alot of our players the choices are wrong a bit often and cool heads don't prevail
by NewCorkSeth » 10 Dec 2019 09:27
Snowflake RoyalHoundURZZZZ I appreciate that but with a lot of youngsters, you can sort of tell whether they’ve got it and roughly estimate their potential. I’ve no reason to believe Olise won’t become a top top player one day yet I can’t ever see East becoming more than a league two player. Whereas with Richards I can’t tell
Fair enough, yes can see what you mean
Suspect personally he has the ability. I didn’t think he was particularly awful on Saturday tbh; no worse than the rest of them
Slightly worrying sign with Omar is that he does seem to commit quite a few silly free kicks and commit himself poorly at times.
Seems stronger and better in possession compared to previous seasons, and obvs still young.
Like alot of our players the choices are wrong a bit often and cool heads don't prevail
by Westwood52 » 10 Dec 2019 09:44
by NewCorkSeth » 10 Dec 2019 09:55
Westwood52 Isn’t this Richards third season ?
I am beginning to doubt whether he will ever make it at Championship level.
He does not have express pace(but neither did Shorey) but perhaps his biggest problem is lack of self belief .
TBF however what we all forget ,certainly I am guilty of this,is that the Championship is a very high standard.Its not Prem standard,but it is still of a high quality.
by Lower West » 10 Dec 2019 13:03
Westwood52 TBF however what we all forget ,certainly I am guilty of this,is that the Championship is a very high standard.Its not Prem standard,but it is still of a high quality.
by URZZZZ » 10 Dec 2019 13:15
Lower WestWestwood52 TBF however what we all forget ,certainly I am guilty of this,is that the Championship is a very high standard.Its not Prem standard,but it is still of a high quality.
Prefer to see home grown talent of the right calibre given the time to flourish. Than splurge huge sums of money on players who fail to settle in and have no real heart for the club.
by Hound » 10 Dec 2019 13:32
URZZZZLower WestWestwood52 TBF however what we all forget ,certainly I am guilty of this,is that the Championship is a very high standard.Its not Prem standard,but it is still of a high quality.
Prefer to see home grown talent of the right calibre given the time to flourish. Than splurge huge sums of money on players who fail to settle in and have no real heart for the club.
Richards came through over two years ago now. He’s close to turning 22. He needs to add consistency to his game in the near future, I hope he can, he was excellent at the start of the season and proved me wrong
by Lower West » 10 Dec 2019 14:03
URZZZZLower WestWestwood52 TBF however what we all forget ,certainly I am guilty of this,is that the Championship is a very high standard.Its not Prem standard,but it is still of a high quality.
Prefer to see home grown talent of the right calibre given the time to flourish. Than splurge huge sums of money on players who fail to settle in and have no real heart for the club.
Richards came through over two years ago now. He’s close to turning 22. He needs to add consistency to his game in the near future, I hope he can, he was excellent at the start of the season and proved me wrong
by URZZZZ » 10 Dec 2019 14:25
HoundURZZZZLower West
Prefer to see home grown talent of the right calibre given the time to flourish. Than splurge huge sums of money on players who fail to settle in and have no real heart for the club.
Richards came through over two years ago now. He’s close to turning 22. He needs to add consistency to his game in the near future, I hope he can, he was excellent at the start of the season and proved me wrong
I still don't really see that he was particularly bad against Brum tbh. Bar the stupid error, thought he was reasonable enough. Certainly don't remember a huge amount of their attack coming down his flank
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