Royal Rother UK yesterday, 1035 new cases, 56 deaths.
Thanks for that.
I found my numbers in West Bridgford!
1035 5018 230 4.58% Death rate
BBC were saying 220. Someone can't add up!
by Snowball » 21 Mar 2020 19:25
Royal Rother UK yesterday, 1035 new cases, 56 deaths.
by AthleticoSpizz » 21 Mar 2020 19:25
.....very goodSnowballAthleticoSpizz Fair point, but that is as long as their numbers aren’t depleted too.
Weslh Guards will be no good. They have to have a leek in their mask
by Snowball » 21 Mar 2020 19:26
by Snowball » 21 Mar 2020 19:31
windermereROYALZip We are going to be at Italy’s numbers in a couple of weeks. Why the hell are garden centres still open and why the hell are elderly people going to them? Close them down.
The message needs to be hammered home.
I understand why supermarkets remain open but much much more should be done on home deliveries. Get the army in to help.
Horrible times ahead.
We are still some way behind our near continent neighbours with a less than 2% mortality rate, I believe Italy is something like 6%, Germany is remarkably low considering the amount of cases.
by windermereROYAL » 21 Mar 2020 19:36
SnowballwindermereROYALZip We are going to be at Italy’s numbers in a couple of weeks. Why the hell are garden centres still open and why the hell are elderly people going to them? Close them down.
The message needs to be hammered home.
I understand why supermarkets remain open but much much more should be done on home deliveries. Get the army in to help.
Horrible times ahead.
We are still some way behind our near continent neighbours with a less than 2% mortality rate, I believe Italy is something like 6%, Germany is remarkably low considering the amount of cases.
Hi Windy
Italy is officially 9%
53,578 4,825 9.01%
But, apparently OAPs dying in care-homes are not included in the statistics.
For confirmed cases the UK death rate is now 4.6%
5018 230 4.58% Death Rate
also
the death rate (official cases) is RISING quite steeply
more than 1% in 6 days
UK Death Rates
3.56% Monday
3.64% Tuesday
3.96% Wednesday
4.41% Thursday
4.44% Friday
4.58% Saturday
I have a contact in Germany (met climbing Etna) who says Germans in Germany
are reporting 1% not the 0.3% we see here.
by Jagermesiter1871 » 21 Mar 2020 20:17
SnowballwindermereROYALZip We are going to be at Italy’s numbers in a couple of weeks. Why the hell are garden centres still open and why the hell are elderly people going to them? Close them down.
The message needs to be hammered home.
I understand why supermarkets remain open but much much more should be done on home deliveries. Get the army in to help.
Horrible times ahead.
We are still some way behind our near continent neighbours with a less than 2% mortality rate, I believe Italy is something like 6%, Germany is remarkably low considering the amount of cases.
Hi Windy
Italy is officially 9%
53,578 4,825 9.01%
But, apparently OAPs dying in care-homes are not included in the statistics.
For confirmed cases the UK death rate is now 4.6%
5018 230 4.58% Death Rate
also
the death rate (official cases) is RISING quite steeply
more than 1% in 6 days
UK Death Rates
3.56% Monday
3.64% Tuesday
3.96% Wednesday
4.41% Thursday
4.44% Friday
4.58% Saturday
I have a contact in Germany (met climbing Etna) who says Germans in Germany
are reporting 1% not the 0.3% we see here.
by Jagermesiter1871 » 21 Mar 2020 20:21
windermereROYALZip We are going to be at Italy’s numbers in a couple of weeks. Why the hell are garden centres still open and why the hell are elderly people going to them? Close them down.
The message needs to be hammered home.
I understand why supermarkets remain open but much much more should be done on home deliveries. Get the army in to help.
Horrible times ahead.
We are still some way behind our near continent neighbours with a less than 2% mortality rate, I believe Italy is something like 6%, Germany is remarkably low considering the amount of cases.
We have every right to be concerned but while we have a relatively low number of cases at the moment people are of the mindset it won`t happen to them, checkout queues at the supermarkets are still crammed with no social spacing.
In conclusion the public are that uneducated b*stards until it happens to them or their families,
I`m prepared to isolate for as long as it takes no matter how uncomfortable, just hope some prick doesn`t infect me when I go shopping.
by Snowball » 21 Mar 2020 20:50
Jagermesiter1871SnowballwindermereROYAL
We are still some way behind our near continent neighbours with a less than 2% mortality rate, I believe Italy is something like 6%, Germany is remarkably low considering the amount of cases.
Hi Windy
Italy is officially 9%
53,578 4,825 9.01%
But, apparently OAPs dying in care-homes are not included in the statistics.
For confirmed cases the UK death rate is now 4.6%
5018 230 4.58% Death Rate
also
the death rate (official cases) is RISING quite steeply
more than 1% in 6 days
UK Death Rates
3.56% Monday
3.64% Tuesday
3.96% Wednesday
4.41% Thursday
4.44% Friday
4.58% Saturday
I have a contact in Germany (met climbing Etna) who says Germans in Germany
are reporting 1% not the 0.3% we see here.
Yeh but these rates are all fairly meaningless when we're not testing the majority of people who are suspected or have symptoms, no?
by Royals and Racers » 21 Mar 2020 21:17
by Snowball » 21 Mar 2020 21:21
by Snowball » 21 Mar 2020 21:24
Royals and Racers From 2007 !!!!! this is part of the full article https://cmr.asm.org/content/20/4/660
Severe Acute Respiratory Syndrome Coronavirus as an Agent of Emerging and Reemerging Infection
Vincent C. C. Cheng, Susanna K. P. Lau, Patrick C. Y. Woo, Kwok Yung Yuen
DOI: 10.1128/CMR.00023-07
SHOULD WE BE READY FOR THE REEMERGENCE OF SARS?
The medical and scientific community demonstrated marvelous efforts in the understanding and control of SARS within a short time, as evident by over 4,000 publications available online. Despite these achievements, gaps still exist in terms of the molecular basis of the physical stability and transmissibility of this virus, the molecular and immunological basis of disease pathogenesis in humans, screening tests for early or cryptic SARS cases, foolproof infection control procedures for patient care, effective antivirals or antiviral combinations, the usefulness of immunomodulatory agents for late presenters, an effective vaccine with no immune enhancement, and the immediate animal host that transmitted the virus to caged civets in the market at the beginning of the epidemic. Coronaviruses are well known to undergo genetic recombination (375), which may lead to new genotypes and outbreaks. The presence of a large reservoir of SARS-CoV-like viruses in horseshoe bats, together with the culture of eating exotic mammals in southern China, is a time bomb. The possibility of the reemergence of SARS and other novel viruses from animals or laboratories and therefore the need for preparedness should not be ignored.
by John Madejski's Wallet » 21 Mar 2020 21:41
Snowball I think Boris was misleading or mistaken when he said 250,000 a day would be being tested. That would be almost two million a week, the whole UK population in 264 days.
AND unless they’ve changed the test they would still miss 40% of positives. If 66M were tested and 80% (50M) had it the current test would INCORRECTLY clear 20 million people!
by Jagermesiter1871 » 21 Mar 2020 21:52
SnowballJagermesiter1871Snowball
Hi Windy
Italy is officially 9%
53,578 4,825 9.01%
But, apparently OAPs dying in care-homes are not included in the statistics.
For confirmed cases the UK death rate is now 4.6%
5018 230 4.58% Death Rate
also
the death rate (official cases) is RISING quite steeply
more than 1% in 6 days
UK Death Rates
3.56% Monday
3.64% Tuesday
3.96% Wednesday
4.41% Thursday
4.44% Friday
4.58% Saturday
I have a contact in Germany (met climbing Etna) who says Germans in Germany
are reporting 1% not the 0.3% we see here.
Yeh but these rates are all fairly meaningless when we're not testing the majority of people who are suspected or have symptoms, no?
No, not meaningless. They mean, for one thing, that those being tested positive die at rate X
We may be only catching 10% (say) and it may therefore be that the overall (tested or not) rate is .43%
Whatever that multiple is in a way doesn’t matter (at least until we hit 50 million infected)...
As the total deaths rise we can predict the total deaths more and more accurately whatever the testing regime.
I think Boris was misleading or mistaken when he said 250,000 a day would be being tested. That would be almost two million a week, the whole UK population in 264 days.
AND unless they’ve changed the test they would still miss 40% of positives. If 66M were tested and 80% (50M) had it the current test would INCORRECTLY clear 20 million people!
by Jagermesiter1871 » 21 Mar 2020 21:54
John Madejski's WalletSnowball I think Boris was misleading or mistaken when he said 250,000 a day would be being tested. That would be almost two million a week, the whole UK population in 264 days.
AND unless they’ve changed the test they would still miss 40% of positives. If 66M were tested and 80% (50M) had it the current test would INCORRECTLY clear 20 million people!
Where are you getting this stuff about the test missing positives?
by John Madejski's Wallet » 21 Mar 2020 22:09
by windermereROYAL » 21 Mar 2020 23:01
by Jagermesiter1871 » 21 Mar 2020 23:10
windermereROYAL If there is a lockdown the current panic buying will seem like a tea party compared to what`s coming next.
by Snowball » 22 Mar 2020 00:15
John Madejski's WalletSnowball I think Boris was misleading or mistaken when he said 250,000 a day would be being tested. That would be almost two million a week, the whole UK population in 264 days.
AND unless they’ve changed the test they would still miss 40% of positives. If 66M were tested and 80% (50M) had it the current test would INCORRECTLY clear 20 million people!
Where are you getting this stuff about the test missing positives?
by Snowball » 22 Mar 2020 00:17
Jagermesiter1871 [
25,000 a day was what he stated but even that sounds pie in the sky for the moment at least.
by Millsy » 22 Mar 2020 01:28
UkeNameless2 world wars, 1 world cup
Yes they are being tested (already started) but they have obviously been produced in order to be tested.
There was an interview a week with a woman in the States who had volunteered to be tested with a Vaccine and had had the injection....
The correct phrasing is a "woman in the States who had volunteered to be tested with a Vaccine and had had an injection"
It's to early to use "the"
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