by bcubed » 15 Nov 2020 21:38
by Ascotexgunner » 15 Nov 2020 21:39
by WestYorksRoyal » 15 Nov 2020 22:33
Old Man Andrews Our problem this evening is we only have one World class player on the pitch, the rest of them are extremely average footballers who wouldn't get in any of the other top 5 ranked national teams.
Rice can fcuk off
Kyle Walker can do one
Eric Dier needs to go away
Mings is a Championship player
by Taffster » 16 Nov 2020 08:19
by WestYorksRoyal » 16 Nov 2020 09:09
Taffster We really need to play try and bit a more attacking, appreciate he had injuries to contend with but our strongest line up has to be something like this - -
Pickford
Alexander-Arnold Gomez Maguire Chilwell
Henderson
Mount Grealish
Sancho Sterling
Kane
That to me is pretty potent going forward with plenty of pace and creativity while still leaving the likes of Rashford/Foden/Rice/Saka/Walker as top quality subs.
by 6ft Kerplunk » 16 Nov 2020 09:58
Royal RotherOld Man Andrews What a touch from Grealish. He's been our best player by a mile.
He is different class.
What Wilshere could have become. Potentially our best player since Gascoigne.
Or at least, the one I most enjoy watching.
by Zammo » 16 Nov 2020 13:50
by South Coast Royal » 16 Nov 2020 13:56
bcubed I know it was just a friendly but the England team v Ireland looked good. Young side, free flowing football, quick passing.
This one looks awful.
by WestYorksRoyal » 16 Nov 2020 13:59
Zammo
Henderson
by Zammo » 16 Nov 2020 14:14
WestYorksRoyalZammo
Henderson
Indeed, what are we doing including a player like him? All he has done in the last 2 years is captain his team to winning the Champions League and Premier, while winning FWA Footballer of the Year. Utter shit.
by WestYorksRoyal » 16 Nov 2020 14:24
ZammoWestYorksRoyalZammo
Henderson
Indeed, what are we doing including a player like him? All he has done in the last 2 years is captain his team to winning the Champions League and Premier, while winning FWA Footballer of the Year. Utter shit.
Yeah, didn't say that though did I ? Not sure what he brings to the England team. Check out the Liverpool thread for the Henderson love-in.
by URZZZZ » 16 Nov 2020 16:13
South Coast Royalbcubed I know it was just a friendly but the England team v Ireland looked good. Young side, free flowing football, quick passing.
This one looks awful.
The key here is "just a friendly" .
ROI were no better than a Championship side so any England 11 should have looked good.
I am with the Grealish love-in and feel that he must become a regular.
I am also with the Dier non love-in; what's the point when he is no great centre-back and regularly gives the ball away?
Sancho hasn't looked a £100 million player in his more recent bits of games.
Pickford ?
He'll end up like Hart and its time for Pope in readiness for the Euros next year.
Belgium played the game at half pace and let us have the ball in the second half and yet in the whole game we only had 3 shots on target.
Lol @ both Kane and Southgate in their post match interviews, you would think that we won 3-0, everything was great and Belgium got 2 lucky goals so nothing at all to worry about.
We have a nucleus of about 6 good players but in European terms that is the case with most of the top sides so in the Euros I expect us to be semi-finalists again and lose to a so-called lesser nation having reached that stage easily.
It's what we do.
by URZZZZ » 16 Nov 2020 16:16
WestYorksRoyalTaffster We really need to play try and bit a more attacking, appreciate he had injuries to contend with but our strongest line up has to be something like this - -
Pickford
Alexander-Arnold Gomez Maguire Chilwell
Henderson
Mount Grealish
Sancho Sterling
Kane
That to me is pretty potent going forward with plenty of pace and creativity while still leaving the likes of Rashford/Foden/Rice/Saka/Walker as top quality subs.
Agreed; this is a line up that can compete, even allowing for Pickford. CB is a concern for 2021, given Gomez's injury and Maguire's inconsistency. I'd still say Maguire is perfectly capable at the top level if at the top of his game, so getting back to that level and staying there is the key.
I also suspect Southgate may revert to Rice and Henderson in the big games, in which case I'd drop Sancho and have Grealish in a similar role to last night, which he also plays in every week for Villa. Don't have a problem with such a system, but Rice does look pedestrian at this level. There was a moment last night where he pressed, won the ball high and had the chance to play in Kane, but ruined it with a rubbish overhit pass to Grealish who had to check out wide and lost all momentum of the attack. That sums up Rice for me. Perfectly capable of pressing and destroying, but lacking the quality required.
Both Rice and Henderson could be highly effective alongside more talented midfielders, as Henderson is for Liverpool (where he is excellent). But combined they just have too many limitations.
by bcubed » 16 Nov 2020 18:54
South Coast Royalbcubed I know it was just a friendly but the England team v Ireland looked good. Young side, free flowing football, quick passing.
This one looks awful.
The key here is "just a friendly" .
ROI were no better than a Championship side so any England 11 should have looked good.
I am with the Grealish love-in and feel that he must become a regular.
I am also with the Dier non love-in; what's the point when he is no great centre-back and regularly gives the ball away?
Sancho hasn't looked a £100 million player in his more recent bits of games.
Pickford ?
He'll end up like Hart and its time for Pope in readiness for the Euros next year.
Belgium played the game at half pace and let us have the ball in the second half and yet in the whole game we only had 3 shots on target.
Lol @ both Kane and Southgate in their post match interviews, you would think that we won 3-0, everything was great and Belgium got 2 lucky goals so nothing at all to worry about.
We have a nucleus of about 6 good players but in European terms that is the case with most of the top sides so in the Euros I expect us to be semi-finalists again and lose to a so-called lesser nation having reached that stage easily.
It's what we do.
by Hendo » 16 Nov 2020 19:37
bcubedSouth Coast Royalbcubed I know it was just a friendly but the England team v Ireland looked good. Young side, free flowing football, quick passing.
This one looks awful.
The key here is "just a friendly" .
ROI were no better than a Championship side so any England 11 should have looked good.
I am with the Grealish love-in and feel that he must become a regular.
I am also with the Dier non love-in; what's the point when he is no great centre-back and regularly gives the ball away?
Sancho hasn't looked a £100 million player in his more recent bits of games.
Pickford ?
He'll end up like Hart and its time for Pope in readiness for the Euros next year.
Belgium played the game at half pace and let us have the ball in the second half and yet in the whole game we only had 3 shots on target.
Lol @ both Kane and Southgate in their post match interviews, you would think that we won 3-0, everything was great and Belgium got 2 lucky goals so nothing at all to worry about.
We have a nucleus of about 6 good players but in European terms that is the case with most of the top sides so in the Euros I expect us to be semi-finalists again and lose to a so-called lesser nation having reached that stage easily.
It's what we do.
Maybe so but we hadn’t beaten Ireland for 35 years I believe, so they’re no mugs.
by bcubed » 17 Nov 2020 00:06
HendobcubedSouth Coast Royal
The key here is "just a friendly" .
ROI were no better than a Championship side so any England 11 should have looked good.
I am with the Grealish love-in and feel that he must become a regular.
I am also with the Dier non love-in; what's the point when he is no great centre-back and regularly gives the ball away?
Sancho hasn't looked a £100 million player in his more recent bits of games.
Pickford ?
He'll end up like Hart and its time for Pope in readiness for the Euros next year.
Belgium played the game at half pace and let us have the ball in the second half and yet in the whole game we only had 3 shots on target.
Lol @ both Kane and Southgate in their post match interviews, you would think that we won 3-0, everything was great and Belgium got 2 lucky goals so nothing at all to worry about.
We have a nucleus of about 6 good players but in European terms that is the case with most of the top sides so in the Euros I expect us to be semi-finalists again and lose to a so-called lesser nation having reached that stage easily.
It's what we do.
Maybe so but we hadn’t beaten Ireland for 35 years I believe, so they’re no mugs.
I take umbrage with this... yes it’s been 35 years but we’ve only played them 8 times since then and we didn’t play them at all between 95-2013. So you really can’t use historical records like we do in club football and apply it to international football, unless you’re playing someone at least twice a year.
Bothers me.
by Sanguine » 18 Nov 2020 12:09
by Franchise FC » 18 Nov 2020 13:12
Sanguine Can anyone remind me why or when Southgate shifted to such negative tactics? It's the former that puzzles me. Maybe I'm misremembering, but seems to be that Southgate's original sides played attacking, expansive football and won matches. The current team plays awful, dull, functional football and wins fewer games. I don't get it.
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