by From Despair To Where? » 27 Jul 2021 07:58
by Snowflake Royal » 27 Jul 2021 08:23
Notts RoyalMid Sussex Royal We can only sign players for a year as I understand it, leaves us in a poor position to sign someone like him
We are looking at journeymen at the end of their careers or released youngsters like Onen last season...
Hopefully we can get lucky somewhere but doesn't look good
Completely get the rule about only being able to get free agents, but the rule about only being able to sign them for a year is pants. Clubs should be able to sign them for more than 1 year so long as the wage is sensible. After all, isn’t that a more sustainable approach?
by Elm Park Kid » 27 Jul 2021 11:35
From Despair To Where? Personally, I don't see why the EFL can't scrutinise the financial viability of every transfer for every club and cap squad sizes. If it can impose an embargo when someone overspends then there's no reason why they can't block unsustainable spending in the first place otherwise you're just locking the stable door after the horse has bolted.
by WestYorksRoyal » 27 Jul 2021 12:22
by From Despair To Where? » 27 Jul 2021 13:16
by Notts Royal » 27 Jul 2021 16:08
From Despair To Where? Some of us have been saying exactly that for a while but you always get the ones who say "but we've released such and such...."
The problem has always been greater than just the transfers in and wage bill
by From Despair To Where? » 27 Jul 2021 16:16
by Snowflake Royal » 28 Jul 2021 08:16
Elm Park KidFrom Despair To Where? Personally, I don't see why the EFL can't scrutinise the financial viability of every transfer for every club and cap squad sizes. If it can impose an embargo when someone overspends then there's no reason why they can't block unsustainable spending in the first place otherwise you're just locking the stable door after the horse has bolted.
The answer to that is that ultimately the EFL is run to promote the collective interests of the owners of EFL clubs; with the interest of Championship club owners having a much bigger say. It's in their interest to have FFP to avoid an 'arms race' in rich owner spending - but they don't want the EFL scrutinising all their dealings.
If we had an independent system of regulation then yes, we could then move to a process where each teams spending is monitored in 'real time' to avoid these situations.
by Hound » 28 Jul 2021 09:12
From Despair To Where? I think buying McNulty and Baldock in the same window was bonkers. Felt like they shit themselves with McNulty then panic bought Baldock.
Likewise Joao and Puscas in the same window. One or other but not both.
And then as you say, letting Novakovich go. Can't have been any worse than McNulty. Obviously hindsight is a wonderful thing though but you can't carry squad players on 1st XI wages.
I also don't see the wisdom in offering anyone over 3 years. You can always renegotiate after 18 months.
by Notts Royal » 28 Jul 2021 09:39
by From Despair To Where? » 28 Jul 2021 09:41
by South Coast Royal » 28 Jul 2021 10:42
by Pepe the Horseman » 28 Jul 2021 11:13
South Coast Royal Not sure if posted elsewhere but Kyle Edwards played for Bournemouth last night in the second half of their friendly with Chelsea.
Is this history repeating itself with the young winger doing the same this time last year in moving South before the season started after spending quite some time with us?
by Hendo » 28 Jul 2021 11:14
by TiagoIlori » 28 Jul 2021 12:06
by Vision » 28 Jul 2021 12:51
From Despair To Where? I wasn't suggesting Novakovich and McNulty instead of Joao and Puscas, just that our transfer dealings in the summer of 2018 were shocking. We bought McNulty for an alleged fee of £1m+ and then Baldock for an alleged £3m+ when we already had Meite, Bodvarsson, Barrow, Loader, Smith and Novakovich and you can possibly add Aluko to that as well.
Granted only one of those 7 is still at the club but we bought 11 goals in 80 appearances for £4m. We sold Barrow and Bod for a total of less than £2m and they got 32 in 130 between them. Barrow had his issues but I thought Bod was a better player and a better fit than either of them. Obviously Clement thought differently.
I'm oversimplifying and a lot of the time its about players fitting the system or the club but we just seemed to stockpile average players for big money. It' shit deals like that that necessitated us spending however much on Joao and Puscas.
by Mr Optimist » 28 Jul 2021 13:04
Notts Royal Even in the post-Covid climate, we should have got at least double for Olise
by Hound » 28 Jul 2021 13:11
TiagoIlori QPR were an even worse version of us all those years ago with FFP, they only recently got out of it. Now they constantly scout for homegrown, young players not quite good enough yet, but they give them a year in the championship then they’re assets the next season. Not afraid to pay for the more experienced players which provide the quality ie Johansen and Austin. I hope when FFP is behind us we follow this. We have the academy to do it.
by linkenholtroyal » 28 Jul 2021 13:13
Notts Royal Even in the post-Covid climate, we should have got at least double for Olise
by Stranded » 28 Jul 2021 14:49
linkenholtroyalNotts Royal Even in the post-Covid climate, we should have got at least double for Olise
Yes probably but he had a year left on his contract, unlikely to sign another one and that 8 million can go towards keeping the academy running and paying wages for a season, (I know it won’t cover it all but it helps). But 3 graduates progressed into the first team properly last year. Olise, Tmac and Holmes. Olise has gone but we could afford to offer Tmac 3 years and are in negotiations with Holmes about an extension. Let’s say this year Tetek, Bristow and Azeez step up and we get another 8 million next year for one of them it is sustainable and utilising our academy. If we can build a team from graduates and supplement with the odd signing we will not get ourselves into this mess again.
We have been trying to spend our way to the premier league which you can not do within the confines of FFP this is the best most sustainable model to follow.
Our only mistake at the moment is not offering long enough contracts to youth products like Azeez, Bristow and Tetek if they are moving to the first team squad in the first few Months they should be tied to 3 year contracts so they don’t leave for nothing.
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