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Re: Pauno out

by Simmops » 28 Aug 2021 17:26

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Simmops Terry in please


Yes, I reckon even Bullivant could turn this around.


No. The players are absolute oxf*rd shit.

Sack the manager and write this season off already.

I've been saying for 3 weeks we're going down and to sack him but everybody has mocked me apart from Brogue

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Re: Pauno out

by Royal_jimmy » 28 Aug 2021 23:25

We've now got 2 weeks until our next game but knowing our owners they'll sack him the day before we play QPR.

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Re: Pauno out

by leon » 29 Aug 2021 00:12

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Stam overall - 41% win rate
Stam 1 - 55% win rate
Stam 2 - 23% win rate
Clement - 23% win rate
Gomes - 24% win rate
Bowen - 35% win rate
Pauno overall - 39% win rate
Pauno 1 - 41% win rate
Pauno 2 - 17% win rate

Who fancies the owners to pick some one good next?


Pauno without Joao on the pitch?

If you did the same for Bowen I reckon it would skew further.

Speaking of which, there's one sacked manager on that list that sticks out like a sore thumb.


Err?

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Re: Pauno out

by Snowflake Royal » 29 Aug 2021 00:21

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Pauno without Joao on the pitch?

If you did the same for Bowen I reckon it would skew further.

Speaking of which, there's one sacked manager on that list that sticks out like a sore thumb.


Err?

The one who has a win rate over 25% for the season he was sacked in

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Re: Pauno out

by leon » 29 Aug 2021 00:37

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Snowflake Royal If you did the same for Bowen I reckon it would skew further.

Speaking of which, there's one sacked manager on that list that sticks out like a sore thumb.


Err?

The one who has a win rate over 25% for the season he was sacked in


tbf its a sample of one season


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Re: Pauno out

by Hound » 29 Aug 2021 07:26

Ha, yep they all looked about the same to me as well

I don’t think any of the managers have done terribly. Just seems to be this cycle of showing some promise, building something useful, but then seemingly getting completely lost and finding themselves out of their depth

Clement was possibly the only one who never really made us play well, but was arguably slowly improving things

Do feel that Bowen was unfortunate mind you. Felt at the time his sacking was wrong and seen little to make me change my mind. As said elsewhere I’d happily take him back now

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Re: Pauno out

by Delboy » 29 Aug 2021 07:58

If he goes who is available

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Re: Pauno out

by Lower West » 29 Aug 2021 08:54

Delboy If he goes who is available


Given the amounts that managers get paid for failure these days. There'll be no shortage of applicants.

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Re: Pauno out

by Brogue » 29 Aug 2021 09:17

Delboy If he goes who is available


Doesn’t need to be a top name, regardless of our situation we are still a attractive prospect to a lot of managers/coaches. We just need someone who can steady the ship get us organised at the back and bring some sort of identity to the way we play. There has to be someone out there. Steve bould for instance has been let go by arsenal who has run their u23’s for years. I’m not necessarily suggesting him but it’s just an example of someone out of work that has good defensive pedigree. John Terry’s name has been thrown around but has oxf*rd all experience Steve bould has bags of it. Duncan Ferguson was the fan’s favourite at Everton when ancelloti left, he would probably take a champ job. Pardew is out of work, as is Neil Lennon. I’m sure we can find someone who could turn this shambles around.


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Re: Pauno out

by Snowflake Royal » 29 Aug 2021 09:23

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Delboy If he goes who is available


Doesn’t need to be a top name, regardless of our situation we are still a attractive prospect to a lot of managers/coaches. We just need someone who can steady the ship get us organised at the back and bring some sort of identity to the way we play. There has to be someone out there. Steve bould for instance has been let go by arsenal who has run their u23’s for years. I’m not necessarily suggesting him but it’s just an example of someone out of work that has good defensive pedigree. John Terry’s name has been thrown around but has oxf*rd all experience Steve bould has bags of it. Duncan Ferguson was the fan’s favourite at Everton when ancelloti left, he would probably take a champ job. Pardew is out of work, as is Neil Lennon. I’m sure we can find someone who could turn this shambles around.

Yeah, that's why we keep getting first time managers, inexperienced managers with minimal success or foreign managers with no decent track record. :lol:

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Re: Pauno out

by URZZZZ » 29 Aug 2021 09:46

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Delboy If he goes who is available


Doesn’t need to be a top name, regardless of our situation we are still a attractive prospect to a lot of managers/coaches. We just need someone who can steady the ship get us organised at the back and bring some sort of identity to the way we play. There has to be someone out there. Steve bould for instance has been let go by arsenal who has run their u23’s for years. I’m not necessarily suggesting him but it’s just an example of someone out of work that has good defensive pedigree. John Terry’s name has been thrown around but has oxf*rd all experience Steve bould has bags of it. Duncan Ferguson was the fan’s favourite at Everton when ancelloti left, he would probably take a champ job. Pardew is out of work, as is Neil Lennon. I’m sure we can find someone who could turn this shambles around.

Yeah, that's why we keep getting first time managers, inexperienced managers with minimal success or foreign managers with no decent track record. :lol:


To be fair, Ian Holloway was interested in the position last time

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Re: Pauno out

by Westwood52 » 29 Aug 2021 09:48

Reputedly we will be signing two further players.That makes six;so some of last season’s established picks should start looking over their shoulder and up their game.A number of players yesterday stunk the place out,with their performance levels and should be ashamed.Bit angry really.
A new manager usually results in dead cat bounce,and if it means Pulis coming in for a couple of seasons so be it.Desperate times call for desperate measures.Is the tippy tappy football then lose it, we have tried to play under Stam/Gomes/Pauno really any better than hoofball ?
We may have to rely on Joao coming back in the New Year,and us putting in a strong end of season run of results.This league is so full of crap teams,we will still be in touch and be able to get out of the mire.However mental fortitude has not been one of our attributes for several seasons and losing does becomes a habit.

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Re: Pauno out

by Jagermesiter1871 » 29 Aug 2021 10:10

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Simmops Terry in please


Yes, I reckon even Bullivant could turn this around.


No. The players are absolute oxf*rd shit.

Sack the manager and write this season off already.

I've been saying for 3 weeks we're going down and to sack him but everybody has mocked me apart from Brogue


Tbf you are a moron.

He's only just made some signings - why would you sack him now?


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Re: Pauno out

by Jagermesiter1871 » 29 Aug 2021 10:15

Good job we have loads of money to pay off Paunos contract :roll: not to mention hire a new manager of any sort of worth. Best case we'll have another no name, no experience 3rd division Portuguese manager.

What about having no money do you lot not understand? And surely any money we do have would be better off being spent on players?

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Re: Pauno out

by Derbyshire Royal » 29 Aug 2021 10:17

I am not one for sacking managers willy nilly, but things have to change. Yesterday was embarrassing, the defence was nowhere to be seen. Upfront Puscas was just isolated, he can only hold the ball for so long.

Out seeming absolute inability to pass to a team mate 5 yards away kept gifting them position. The only positive for me is that there were a couple of occasions where we got into a shooting position and actually took a shot, albeit wide. Last week at Coventry we didnt even do that.

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Re: Pauno out

by Simmops » 29 Aug 2021 10:26

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Yes, I reckon even Bullivant could turn this around.


No. The players are absolute oxf*rd shit.

Sack the manager and write this season off already.

I've been saying for 3 weeks we're going down and to sack him but everybody has mocked me apart from Brogue


Tbf you are a moron.

He's only just made some signings - why would you sack him now?

Because they're shit, we are shit and if we don't sack him now then we will be oxf*rd come March

Call me a moron all you want but I'm telling you by the end of the season I will be right and you will all be apologising to me . oxf*rd bunch of oxf*rd.

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Re: Pauno out

by Brogue » 29 Aug 2021 10:53

Jagermesiter1871 Good job we have loads of money to pay off Paunos contract :roll: not to mention hire a new manager of any sort of worth. Best case we'll have another no name, no experience 3rd division Portuguese manager.

What about having no money do you lot not understand? And surely any money we do have would be better off being spent on players?


We have loads of money, money isn’t the issue, ffp is the issue, and manager severance pay isn’t included In ffp figures.

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Re: Pauno out

by morganb » 29 Aug 2021 11:09

Is there no other way to discipline a manager other than to sack them?

Could Dai not put a rocket up him or give him targets to reach in a given timescale otherwise he will be fined, with sacking as a last resort?

If Pauno does get the push is there anyone we can promote from within? O'Shea was a possibility but he has now gone.

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Re: Pauno out

by Westwood52 » 29 Aug 2021 11:14

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Delboy If he goes who is available


Doesn’t need to be a top name, regardless of our situation we are still a attractive prospect to a lot of managers/coaches. We just need someone who can steady the ship get us organised at the back and bring some sort of identity to the way we play. There has to be someone out there. Steve bould for instance has been let go by arsenal who has run their u23’s for years. I’m not necessarily suggesting him but it’s just an example of someone out of work that has good defensive pedigree. John Terry’s name has been thrown around but has oxf*rd all experience Steve bould has bags of it. Duncan Ferguson was the fan’s favourite at Everton when ancelloti left, he would probably take a champ job. Pardew is out of work, as is Neil Lennon. I’m sure we can find someone who could turn this shambles around.


Can you imagine Pardew coming back ?

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Re: Pauno out

by genome » 29 Aug 2021 11:21

The thing is, our problems are looking more and more coaching related and that falls squarely on the manager. Did Pauno bring in his own fitness/conditioning team as well? Because that's also a massive issue.

However I don't think it's quite the right time to change manager. I'm sticking with what I said last week - give him a few more games and obviously the chance to utilise the new signings.

Any more performances like yesterday though, and I think he's probably doomed. Yesterday felt a bit like Rodger's 4-1 defeat at QPR or Clement's 4-0 defeat at home to Ipswich.

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