by Brogue » 13 Mar 2023 10:35
by Mr Angry » 13 Mar 2023 10:37
YorkshireRoyal99Snowflake Royaltidus_mi2 I suppose the logic here is if he has a club with hundreds of millions of debt, Dai can find a buyer and have hundreds of millions of £, shouldn't matter if his assets are frozen in China as the club operate in England.
Exactly what I meant.
Ah right ok I'm with you, I was confused with the investing part as I wouldn't have thought he'd be able to if his assets were frozen but yeah if they are in different countries then fair enough.
by Hendo » 13 Mar 2023 10:39
Brogue i think I'm the only one who actually doesn't mind Dai, yeah he's made mistakes and been a bit naive at times. But he saved the club. The thai's couldn't afford to keep us going, they were desperate to find a buyer. He's paid for our training ground and invested heavily in playing staff (too much obvs). We could have had a far worse owner. Dai IN
by Snowflake Royal » 13 Mar 2023 10:41
Mr AngryYorkshireRoyal99Snowflake Royal Exactly what I meant.
Ah right ok I'm with you, I was confused with the investing part as I wouldn't have thought he'd be able to if his assets were frozen but yeah if they are in different countries then fair enough.
That didn't work for Abramovich though, did it? When he got sanctioned, Chelsea were put under incredibly strict rules that meant, for example, that they couldn't afford to fly up to games in Newcastle or Manchester, and it forced him to sell the club without seeing any of the proceeds of the sale.
If - as a for instance - China invaded Taiwan, I would expect something similar to happen and we would be in deep trouble.......
by Brogue » 13 Mar 2023 10:46
Snowflake RoyalMr AngryYorkshireRoyal99
Ah right ok I'm with you, I was confused with the investing part as I wouldn't have thought he'd be able to if his assets were frozen but yeah if they are in different countries then fair enough.
That didn't work for Abramovich though, did it? When he got sanctioned, Chelsea were put under incredibly strict rules that meant, for example, that they couldn't afford to fly up to games in Newcastle or Manchester, and it forced him to sell the club without seeing any of the proceeds of the sale.
If - as a for instance - China invaded Taiwan, I would expect something similar to happen and we would be in deep trouble.......
Depends where the sanctions are. You're talking about sanctions on him from the UK for China invading Taiwan. Which is very different to him falling foul of Xi and being sanctioned by China.
by YorkshireRoyal99 » 13 Mar 2023 10:47
Mr AngryYorkshireRoyal99Snowflake Royal Exactly what I meant.
Ah right ok I'm with you, I was confused with the investing part as I wouldn't have thought he'd be able to if his assets were frozen but yeah if they are in different countries then fair enough.
That didn't work for Abramovich though, did it? When he got sanctioned, Chelsea were put under incredibly strict rules that meant, for example, that they couldn't afford to fly up to games in Newcastle or Manchester, and it forced him to sell the club without seeing any of the proceeds of the sale.
If - as a for instance - China invaded Taiwan, I would expect something similar to happen and we would be in deep trouble.......
by Millsy » 13 Mar 2023 10:56
HendoBrogue i think I'm the only one who actually doesn't mind Dai, yeah he's made mistakes and been a bit naive at times. But he saved the club. The thai's couldn't afford to keep us going, they were desperate to find a buyer. He's paid for our training ground and invested heavily in playing staff (too much obvs). We could have had a far worse owner. Dai IN
+1 from me.
There are certainly worse owners out there.
by 3points » 13 Mar 2023 13:13
MillsyHendoBrogue i think I'm the only one who actually doesn't mind Dai, yeah he's made mistakes and been a bit naive at times. But he saved the club. The thai's couldn't afford to keep us going, they were desperate to find a buyer. He's paid for our training ground and invested heavily in playing staff (too much obvs). We could have had a far worse owner. Dai IN
+1 from me.
There are certainly worse owners out there.
+1
by Snowflake Royal » 13 Mar 2023 13:20
by One8Seven1* » 13 Mar 2023 16:26
Brogue i think I'm the only one who actually doesn't mind Dai, yeah he's made mistakes and been a bit naive at times. But he saved the club. The thai's couldn't afford to keep us going, they were desperate to find a buyer. He's paid for our training ground and invested heavily in playing staff (too much obvs). We could have had a far worse owner. Dai IN
by tmesis » 13 Mar 2023 17:07
One8Seven1*Brogue i think I'm the only one who actually doesn't mind Dai, yeah he's made mistakes and been a bit naive at times. But he saved the club. The thai's couldn't afford to keep us going, they were desperate to find a buyer. He's paid for our training ground and invested heavily in playing staff (too much obvs). We could have had a far worse owner. Dai IN
I still find it odd that he's never sat down for an interview and sold anyone his vision for the club. All we've seen is mismanagement at the highest levels, and narrowly avoiding relegation to the third division for the last few years as a result. I've no idea who he is, what his intentions are, or whether he's good for the club or not.
by Snowflake Royal » 13 Mar 2023 17:11
tmesisOne8Seven1*Brogue i think I'm the only one who actually doesn't mind Dai, yeah he's made mistakes and been a bit naive at times. But he saved the club. The thai's couldn't afford to keep us going, they were desperate to find a buyer. He's paid for our training ground and invested heavily in playing staff (too much obvs). We could have had a far worse owner. Dai IN
I still find it odd that he's never sat down for an interview and sold anyone his vision for the club. All we've seen is mismanagement at the highest levels, and narrowly avoiding relegation to the third division for the last few years as a result. I've no idea who he is, what his intentions are, or whether he's good for the club or not.
The important thing is whether he's learned from his mistakes.
When (if?) we get our transfer embargo lifted, will he try to build the club slowly, or will it just be another round of chucking money at a bunch of overrated players in the hope we'll go up?
by Green » 14 Mar 2023 14:34
HendoBrogue i think I'm the only one who actually doesn't mind Dai, yeah he's made mistakes and been a bit naive at times. But he saved the club. The thai's couldn't afford to keep us going, they were desperate to find a buyer. He's paid for our training ground and invested heavily in playing staff (too much obvs). We could have had a far worse owner. Dai IN
+1 from me.
There are certainly worse owners out there.
by Greatwesternline » 14 Mar 2023 15:18
GreenHendoBrogue i think I'm the only one who actually doesn't mind Dai, yeah he's made mistakes and been a bit naive at times. But he saved the club. The thai's couldn't afford to keep us going, they were desperate to find a buyer. He's paid for our training ground and invested heavily in playing staff (too much obvs). We could have had a far worse owner. Dai IN
+1 from me.
There are certainly worse owners out there.
Sure - a sense of perspective is worthwhile and yes, you could always be worse off. But Srsly? Yeh he's a petty thief but he's not a murderer sort of stuff.
I think as fans we need to at least aspire to higher standards, otherwise we might as well just pack up and go home.
by Green » 14 Mar 2023 19:37
by YorkshireRoyal99 » 14 Mar 2023 20:54
GreatwesternlineGreenHendo
+1 from me.
There are certainly worse owners out there.
Sure - a sense of perspective is worthwhile and yes, you could always be worse off. But Srsly? Yeh he's a petty thief but he's not a murderer sort of stuff.
I think as fans we need to at least aspire to higher standards, otherwise we might as well just pack up and go home.
He put in more money than almost any other owner in the Championship has done ever. he installed a CEO of the club who had previously been CEO of Chelsea at the peak of their powers, and dealt with an owner wishing to throw money at the squad to achieve results. Chelsea won the PL. Not unreasonable of Mr Dai to think Ron Gourlay was the exact right man for the job.
Player recruitment under Gourlay was a nightmare. Had the recruitment management under Gourlay done its job better Reading could and should have been promoted with the money thrown at the project. That Mr Dai delegated this down to someone with Gourlay's CV is totally understandable.
I think Dai made sensible decisions that in hindsight turned out to be terrible.
There is another world where Gourlay used his experience in football to get the correct player recruitment in, signed a great bunch of hard working players with the budget available and Reading sail into the PL at the first attempt under Gourlay.
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