Summer 2023 Transfer Speculation

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Re: Summer 2023 Transfer Speculation

by Brogue » 18 Aug 2023 10:44

WestYorksRoyal I'm concerned by the amount of rumoured departures. None of them upset me individually, but we don't have a big squad and it'll be a long season with lots of games. It seems like a knee jerk to recent results and/or the financial situation. If we lose Holmes, NGW, Yiadom and Carroll we'll need some incomings too. Also rumoured interest in McIntyre from Blackburn.


it is a concern, yes, but I cant imagine Bowen and Carey would allow them to go without replacements lined up.

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Re: Summer 2023 Transfer Speculation

by Hound » 18 Aug 2023 10:46

WestYorksRoyal I'm concerned by the amount of rumoured departures. None of them upset me individually, but we don't have a big squad and it'll be a long season with lots of games. It seems like a knee jerk to recent results and/or the financial situation. If we lose Holmes, NGW, Yiadom and Carroll we'll need some incomings too. Also rumoured interest in McIntyre from Blackburn.


We’ll have to make use of the loan market you’d think. Bouzanis already being replaced from the sound of it. I think ideally we’d keep McIntyre. Have cover at CB otherwise. Prob enough cover for Yiadom though all v I experienced and not sure where Abrefa is

John Clarke similar to Abrefa could replace NGW if fit again soon

Could do with a striker to replace Carroll

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Re: Summer 2023 Transfer Speculation

by Stranded » 18 Aug 2023 10:59

Whatever happens, the next fortnight is going to be very interesting.

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Re: Summer 2023 Transfer Speculation

by Sutekh » 18 Aug 2023 11:10

Stranded Whatever happens, the next fortnight is going to be very interesting.


Cue no incomings and another embargo at the end of it all. Will then leave the club looking for free agents in between all the other monthly embargos.

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Re: Summer 2023 Transfer Speculation

by Royal_jimmy » 18 Aug 2023 11:10

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That's fine. Mbengue seems to have become our first choice RB this season, whilst Abrefa and Rushesha are definitely suitable as back ups.


Holmes, Bouzanis, Yiadom and Carroll going would suit me


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Re: Summer 2023 Transfer Speculation

by Royal_jimmy » 18 Aug 2023 11:14

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  • Bouzanis: I'm not surprised. Upon signing Button there isn't much point in us keeping him: CBC will be our cup keeper. I can't imagine we'll notice if Bouzanis stays or goes; I cannot envisage a situation where Bouzanis will play for us again.
  • Holmes: Appears to have been supplanted by Bindon and Abbey, who both look much more assured defensively, whilst Dean and McIntyre are probably ahead of him in the pecking order. Hasn't really progressed since being in the first team.
  • NGW: The only one of the four I'd be disappointed to lose. Can be defensively suspect at times, but is decent going forward; I maintain he could be more effective as a left-midfielder. We'd need another LB if he goes.
  • Carroll: We've never really played well with Carroll in the side; he doesn't really fit with the style of play Selles wants to play. We'll need another striker should he leave, but getting a L1-level hungry striker who fits with Selles' system shouldn't be the hardest thing in the world.


Bouzanis was an utterly pointless signing in the first place so would be happy to see him move on
Carroll just doesn't fit in with the style of play and despite being a handful for defenders the club just fall into stupid aimless hoofball when he's on the pitch
Holmes never rated him him so another I'd happily drive to his next club asap
NGW Can't defend so not sure why he gets a role as a left back when he's looks much better as a winger. Wouldn't really want to see him leave but the club have other wide left players and certainly better left "wing" backs.

Can't see getting much money for any of them and don't think there'd be much saving on wages either. The club already need another striker so losing Carroll would probably cause the biggest issue despite the clueless management of his game time.


Not so bothered about the financial side of it as we know we aren't going to get that much for any of our players, but it clears a little bit off the wage bill for each player which can potentially help to bring 1/2 in and transfer fees or any kind might help the club with cash flow as well.

The positive about it is it's the managers decision to get rid of players he doesn't want, for whatever reasons they end up being (don't fit in the style, fallen out with him etc). Agree when saying I don't think I'd miss any of them.

I don't think we need another striker with Carroll here. Smith, Kelvin E and a new player would be absolutely fine, I can't see why we'd need more than 3. We just need 3 who offer us a threat in the system we play.


We need 4 strikers, it's a long season and with cup games

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Re: Summer 2023 Transfer Speculation

by Royal_jimmy » 18 Aug 2023 11:16

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Yep whatevs

Having a bit of to and fro with those Derby fans is our Daz. Does suggest a lot is to do with raising funds. Knowing our financial management we’ve suddenly realised we need a fire sale to pay the next tax bill

He does say they are on very big wages which I highly doubt though

If he means big for L1, very plausible. Holmes could be 6-8k, NGW similar, same for Carroll, Yiadom potentially upwards of 12k depending on when he last signed.


None of those players are on anywhere near that. Divide by 4 and that's your answer except with Yiadom where you divide it by 2.

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Re: Summer 2023 Transfer Speculation

by Hound » 18 Aug 2023 11:28

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Re: Summer 2023 Transfer Speculation

by Stranded » 18 Aug 2023 11:30

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Re: Summer 2023 Transfer Speculation

by Brogue » 18 Aug 2023 11:32

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Re: Summer 2023 Transfer Speculation

by Hound » 18 Aug 2023 11:40

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Re: Summer 2023 Transfer Speculation

by YorkshireRoyal99 » 18 Aug 2023 11:50

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Bouzanis was an utterly pointless signing in the first place so would be happy to see him move on
Carroll just doesn't fit in with the style of play and despite being a handful for defenders the club just fall into stupid aimless hoofball when he's on the pitch
Holmes never rated him him so another I'd happily drive to his next club asap
NGW Can't defend so not sure why he gets a role as a left back when he's looks much better as a winger. Wouldn't really want to see him leave but the club have other wide left players and certainly better left "wing" backs.

Can't see getting much money for any of them and don't think there'd be much saving on wages either. The club already need another striker so losing Carroll would probably cause the biggest issue despite the clueless management of his game time.


Not so bothered about the financial side of it as we know we aren't going to get that much for any of our players, but it clears a little bit off the wage bill for each player which can potentially help to bring 1/2 in and transfer fees or any kind might help the club with cash flow as well.

The positive about it is it's the managers decision to get rid of players he doesn't want, for whatever reasons they end up being (don't fit in the style, fallen out with him etc). Agree when saying I don't think I'd miss any of them.

I don't think we need another striker with Carroll here. Smith, Kelvin E and a new player would be absolutely fine, I can't see why we'd need more than 3. We just need 3 who offer us a threat in the system we play.


We need 4 strikers, it's a long season and with cup games


What's the 4th choice striker going to be doing? Waiting around for a couple of injuries which may/may not happen? They'll just be taking another place otherwise. Should keep our squad pretty tight and increase competition, not just bloat it.

We do have players capable of playing across the front line, the lad from Copenhagen can play through the middle can't he? No reason as to why he can't be the 4th choice striker option for us, maybe even Azeez as he's played there before as well.

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Re: Summer 2023 Transfer Speculation

by Brogue » 18 Aug 2023 11:50

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Re: Summer 2023 Transfer Speculation

by morganb » 18 Aug 2023 11:54

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Re: Summer 2023 Transfer Speculation

by Mid Sussex Royal » 18 Aug 2023 11:57

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WestYorksRoyal I'm concerned by the amount of rumoured departures. None of them upset me individually, but we don't have a big squad and it'll be a long season with lots of games. It seems like a knee jerk to recent results and/or the financial situation. If we lose Holmes, NGW, Yiadom and Carroll we'll need some incomings too. Also rumoured interest in McIntyre from Blackburn.


it is a concern, yes, but I cant imagine Bowen and Carey would allow them to go without replacements lined up.


I'm sure they have, but the danger is we don't pay the tax next week and the window for us then slams shut.

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Re: Summer 2023 Transfer Speculation

by Brogue » 18 Aug 2023 11:59

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WestYorksRoyal I'm concerned by the amount of rumoured departures. None of them upset me individually, but we don't have a big squad and it'll be a long season with lots of games. It seems like a knee jerk to recent results and/or the financial situation. If we lose Holmes, NGW, Yiadom and Carroll we'll need some incomings too. Also rumoured interest in McIntyre from Blackburn.


it is a concern, yes, but I cant imagine Bowen and Carey would allow them to go without replacements lined up.


I'm sure they have, but the danger is we don't pay the tax next week and the window for us then slams shut.


this is also a concern, yes :lol:

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Re: Summer 2023 Transfer Speculation

by Snowflake Royal » 18 Aug 2023 12:37

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Re: Summer 2023 Transfer Speculation

by Sutekh » 18 Aug 2023 12:39

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Re: Summer 2023 Transfer Speculation

by Snowflake Royal » 18 Aug 2023 12:48

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Not so bothered about the financial side of it as we know we aren't going to get that much for any of our players, but it clears a little bit off the wage bill for each player which can potentially help to bring 1/2 in and transfer fees or any kind might help the club with cash flow as well.

The positive about it is it's the managers decision to get rid of players he doesn't want, for whatever reasons they end up being (don't fit in the style, fallen out with him etc). Agree when saying I don't think I'd miss any of them.

I don't think we need another striker with Carroll here. Smith, Kelvin E and a new player would be absolutely fine, I can't see why we'd need more than 3. We just need 3 who offer us a threat in the system we play.


We need 4 strikers, it's a long season and with cup games


What's the 4th choice striker going to be doing? Waiting around for a couple of injuries which may/may not happen? They'll just be taking another place otherwise. Should keep our squad pretty tight and increase competition, not just bloat it.

We do have players capable of playing across the front line, the lad from Copenhagen can play through the middle can't he? No reason as to why he can't be the 4th choice striker option for us, maybe even Azeez as he's played there before as well.

We play 2 upfront. 3 is simply not enough. You lose 1 to injury or suspension, you have no one for the bench, you can't rotate for poor form. You lose two you have to start playing people out of position.

Selles is actually using his subs and squad size well. We can't expect Vickers and Ehibhatiomhan to put in 90 minutes twice a week. Going with three strikers, two who are youth players is crazy.

Kitson, Lita, Doyle, Long
Roberts, Hunt, Church, Le Fondre
Lovell, Nogan, Quinn, Hartenberger
Cureton, Butler, Forster, Henderson.

All our successful sides have had at least 4 strikers. And that's with smaller squads and fewer subs in many cases.

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Re: Summer 2023 Transfer Speculation

by Hound » 18 Aug 2023 12:57

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We need 4 strikers, it's a long season and with cup games


What's the 4th choice striker going to be doing? Waiting around for a couple of injuries which may/may not happen? They'll just be taking another place otherwise. Should keep our squad pretty tight and increase competition, not just bloat it.

We do have players capable of playing across the front line, the lad from Copenhagen can play through the middle can't he? No reason as to why he can't be the 4th choice striker option for us, maybe even Azeez as he's played there before as well.

We play 2 upfront. 3 is simply not enough. You lose 1 to injury or suspension, you have no one for the bench, you can't rotate for poor form. You lose two you have to start playing people out of position.

Selles is actually using his subs and squad size well. We can't expect Vickers and Ehibhatiomhan to put in 90 minutes twice a week. Going with three strikers, two who are youth players is crazy.

Kitson, Lita, Doyle, Long
Roberts, Hunt, Church, Le Fondre
Lovell, Nogan, Quinn, Hartenberger
Cureton, Butler, Forster, Henderson.

All our successful sides have had at least 4 strikers. And that's with smaller squads and fewer subs in many cases.


Yorkshire, weren’t you saying we should have about 8 cms not so long ago?

I’d be absolutely against playing Ehib or Vickers for more than about 65m per game. Vickers looks like a child and Kelvin noticeably fades the longer the game goes on (considering his workrate that’s no surprise)

In a high pressing system I’d suggest you need to rotate the strikers loads. So 4 is minimum for me, ideally 5 (Ehibhatiomhan, smith, Mukairo, Vickers +1)

That +1 could be someone like Jahmari or Wareham but it’s a gamble

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