MATCHWATCH : Plymouth Argyle (a)

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Re: MATCHWATCH : Plymouth Argyle (a)

by Hound » 27 Dec 2025 06:41

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Snowflake Royal The frustrating thing about Doyle is he's clearly got talent and touch, but he's just so oxf*rd soft. He's got practically zero battle in him.

Couldn't describe him better myself, as for being soft, you could add at least a couple more of our players.

I can forgive Kyerewaa because he's small, that makes it harder for him. His problem is more his touch deserting him too often.


DK can clearly play and cause problems but he’s so inconsistent

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Re: MATCHWATCH : Plymouth Argyle (a)

by Sutekh » 27 Dec 2025 10:34

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MR. CYNICAL Couldn't describe him better myself, as for being soft, you could add at least a couple more of our players.

I can forgive Kyerewaa because he's small, that makes it harder for him. His problem is more his touch deserting him too often.


DK can clearly play and cause problems but he’s so inconsistent


But if he can get the falling over bit right then we should get some set piece benefit…. :?

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Re: MATCHWATCH : Plymouth Argyle (a)

by windermereROYAL » 27 Dec 2025 10:39

I`m happy to have a winger that wants to take on his man, he`s not always successful but it`s refreshing to see, welcome to a young Jimmy Kebe.

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Re: MATCHWATCH : Plymouth Argyle (a)

by West F » 27 Dec 2025 10:43

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Snowflake Royal For what's a very comfortable scoreline, it's all down to a 12th minute pen and red, and Plymouth then shitting themselves in their own box for the next ten minutes.

Without that 10 minute spell, Plymouth have looked very good, and not at all a man down.


Yeah you can’t really judge too much in the circumstances really. Stupid pen and sending off to give away (it was a red) then some truly absymal defending for our third and it’s kind of game over

Plymouth battled pretty well but their appalling pen miss killed the game off.

Still we made quite few chances, Kelvin E looked pretty sharp, Marriott keeps up a ridiculous scoring record but still big questions for me over Doyle and DK today. That DK miss was beyond useless

But a great result and 13 points from 7 now for LR which is very good. Need to keep it going with the POs somehow looking further away than ever despite the half decent form
The frustrating thing about Doyle is he's clearly got talent and touch, but he's just so oxf*rd soft. He's got practically zero battle in him.


The biggest problem with Doyle is his complete lack of pace and acceleration. He can turn someone, or beat his man but cannot get away afterwards. He has the ability to buy a yard, but can’t spend it. In other words, there is a reason why he is on loan in league one again.

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Re: MATCHWATCH : Plymouth Argyle (a)

by Hound » 27 Dec 2025 10:50

windermereROYAL I`m happy to have a winger that wants to take on his man, he`s not always successful but it`s refreshing to see, welcome to a young Jimmy Kebe.


He doesn’t manage anywhere near enough at the moment. He’s had a couple of cracking games and lots of very average ones

Still think he’s more of a impact sub than starter personally


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Re: MATCHWATCH : Plymouth Argyle (a)

by West F » 27 Dec 2025 10:54

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windermereROYAL I`m happy to have a winger that wants to take on his man, he`s not always successful but it`s refreshing to see, welcome to a young Jimmy Kebe.


He doesn’t manage anywhere near enough at the moment. He’s had a couple of cracking games and lots of very average ones

Still think he’s more of a impact sub than starter personally


Lane, playing from the left has more quality end product. Kyerewaa could still cause issues on the right wing. One thing we are not short of are wide options.

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Re: MATCHWATCH : Plymouth Argyle (a)

by stealthpapes » 27 Dec 2025 12:07

The biggest problem with Doyle is his complete lack of pace and acceleration. He can turn someone, or beat his man but cannot get away afterwards. He has the ability to buy a yard, but can’t spend it. In other words, there is a reason why he is on loan in league one again.


Yes.

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Re: MATCHWATCH : Plymouth Argyle (a)

by WestYorksRoyal » 27 Dec 2025 12:14

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The biggest problem with Doyle is his complete lack of pace and acceleration. He can turn someone, or beat his man but cannot get away afterwards. He has the ability to buy a yard, but can’t spend it. In other words, there is a reason why he is on loan in league one again.


Yes.

Sounds like Glen Little.

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Re: MATCHWATCH : Plymouth Argyle (a)

by Snowflake Royal » 27 Dec 2025 12:33

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The biggest problem with Doyle is his complete lack of pace and acceleration. He can turn someone, or beat his man but cannot get away afterwards. He has the ability to buy a yard, but can’t spend it. In other words, there is a reason why he is on loan in league one again.


Yes.

Also an issue. But no more so than him being easily pushed off the ball and playing at 75% going into any challenge


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Re: MATCHWATCH : Plymouth Argyle (a)

by Snowflake Royal » 27 Dec 2025 12:37

Watching the highlights, you've seen them given, but I don't think KelvinE is a strong penalty shout. The player runs across him with no intent to get the ball to block Kelvin's movement towards it, and instead of being strong and try to hold him off just belly flops at the first contact.

And you can see Abrefa's there is a (shit) attempt to play the ball, so not a red.

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Re: MATCHWATCH : Plymouth Argyle (a)

by South Coast Royal » 27 Dec 2025 12:53

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Hound Wing was bloody good today as well tbf. Think we prob take him for granted a bit at times, frustrated as we all are with him playing deep

I mean great pen, another good win of the loose ball and finish, goal saving tackle and a pinpoint assist for Marriott…great stuff

Today was his best game of the season, and his best moments came from being higher up on the pitch which is not a surprise.

I would not want to sell him. He's a cornerstone team member and one of the best midfielders in the league if we can unlock his talent more consistently. I feel like a lot of fans are flippant and take him for granted. He's not been near his best but the whole team is struggling and if we are to become a good L1 team he should clearly be a big part of our plans. Sell for silly money only.


But there is a reason he’s never made it in the champ…


Watching a few Champs games recently I don't think any of our players are at that level but Wing is a very good League 1 player and I am glad that we have him.
There will need to be major changes if we are to have a go at promotion within the next few years, especially if it is a team designed to stay at that level-seeing Wrexham last night Smith is now only a back-up striker and Marriot was even further down the pecking order.

We will need Couhig to have the deep pockets that the mad man used to go on about and even deeper if we are to make an impact at Champs level-just look at Wrexham and Birmingham who were outstanding at our level last season but have had to spend heavily again just to make mid-table.

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Re: MATCHWATCH : Plymouth Argyle (a)

by Royals and Racers » 27 Dec 2025 13:17

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windermereROYAL I`m happy to have a winger that wants to take on his man, he`s not always successful but it`s refreshing to see, welcome to a young Jimmy Kebe.


He doesn’t manage anywhere near enough at the moment. He’s had a couple of cracking games and lots of very average ones

Still think he’s more of a impact sub than starter personally


Lane, playing from the left has more quality end product. Kyerewaa could still cause issues on the right wing. One thing we are not short of are wide options.

We are short of wide options if Lane and Ritchie are injured.

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Re: MATCHWATCH : Plymouth Argyle (a)

by Hound » 27 Dec 2025 13:35

I think if LR signs another striker Kelvin will go back out there regularly

Then you have Randell, Lane, DK, Ritchie, Garcia, Abrefa, Okine Peters, Osho who can or have played there for the first team

I’d prob like to see a new striker come in and the front 4 be KE/Marriot/New CF/Lane but the others can all do a job and fill in/come off the bench


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Re: MATCHWATCH : Plymouth Argyle (a)

by WestYorksRoyal » 27 Dec 2025 14:06

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WestYorksRoyal Today was his best game of the season, and his best moments came from being higher up on the pitch which is not a surprise.

I would not want to sell him. He's a cornerstone team member and one of the best midfielders in the league if we can unlock his talent more consistently. I feel like a lot of fans are flippant and take him for granted. He's not been near his best but the whole team is struggling and if we are to become a good L1 team he should clearly be a big part of our plans. Sell for silly money only.


But there is a reason he’s never made it in the champ…


Watching a few Champs games recently I don't think any of our players are at that level but Wing is a very good League 1 player and I am glad that we have him.
There will need to be major changes if we are to have a go at promotion within the next few years, especially if it is a team designed to stay at that level-seeing Wrexham last night Smith is now only a back-up striker and Marriot was even further down the pecking order.

We will need Couhig to have the deep pockets that the mad man used to go on about and even deeper if we are to make an impact at Champs level-just look at Wrexham and Birmingham who were outstanding at our level last season but have had to spend heavily again just to make mid-table.

But Derby are doing fine and one of Oxford and Portsmouth will survive for 2 seasons.

Agree if we did somehow go on a run and then win the POs we'd have some serious squad surgery to do. I'm still enjoying L1 enough that I'd be happier seeing us develop players and build a better squad over a couple of years so we're ready when we get promoted.

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Re: MATCHWATCH : Plymouth Argyle (a)

by Snowflake Royal » 27 Dec 2025 14:35

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WestYorksRoyal Today was his best game of the season, and his best moments came from being higher up on the pitch which is not a surprise.

I would not want to sell him. He's a cornerstone team member and one of the best midfielders in the league if we can unlock his talent more consistently. I feel like a lot of fans are flippant and take him for granted. He's not been near his best but the whole team is struggling and if we are to become a good L1 team he should clearly be a big part of our plans. Sell for silly money only.


But there is a reason he’s never made it in the champ…


Watching a few Champs games recently I don't think any of our players are at that level but Wing is a very good League 1 player and I am glad that we have him.
There will need to be major changes if we are to have a go at promotion within the next few years, especially if it is a team designed to stay at that level-seeing Wrexham last night Smith is now only a back-up striker and Marriot was even further down the pecking order.

We will need Couhig to have the deep pockets that the mad man used to go on about and even deeper if we are to make an impact at Champs level-just look at Wrexham and Birmingham who were outstanding at our level last season but have had to spend heavily again just to make mid-table.

Smith was never a Championship striker in a million years.

Marriott is a far smarter player and a much better finisher. Smith will put in more miles and be much more of a nuisance, but that doesn't win you games. Marriott does.

You can still do well with an organised team and young players with room to develop like Savage, Abrefa, Dorsett, Kyerewaa, and Ehibhatiomhan.

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Re: MATCHWATCH : Plymouth Argyle (a)

by WestYorksRoyal » 27 Dec 2025 14:37

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But there is a reason he’s never made it in the champ…


Watching a few Champs games recently I don't think any of our players are at that level but Wing is a very good League 1 player and I am glad that we have him.
There will need to be major changes if we are to have a go at promotion within the next few years, especially if it is a team designed to stay at that level-seeing Wrexham last night Smith is now only a back-up striker and Marriot was even further down the pecking order.

We will need Couhig to have the deep pockets that the mad man used to go on about and even deeper if we are to make an impact at Champs level-just look at Wrexham and Birmingham who were outstanding at our level last season but have had to spend heavily again just to make mid-table.

Smith was never a Championship striker in a million years.

Marriott is a far smarter player and a much better finisher. Smith will put in more miles and be much more of a nuisance, but that doesn't win you games. Marriott does.

You can still do well with an organised team and young players with room to develop like Savage, Abrefa, Dorsett, Kyerewaa, and Ehibhatiomhan.

You can discuss their respective merits, but objectively Smith was ahead of Marriot in the pecking order which was one of the reasons we could sign him.

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Re: MATCHWATCH : Plymouth Argyle (a)

by Snowflake Royal » 27 Dec 2025 14:46

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Watching a few Champs games recently I don't think any of our players are at that level but Wing is a very good League 1 player and I am glad that we have him.
There will need to be major changes if we are to have a go at promotion within the next few years, especially if it is a team designed to stay at that level-seeing Wrexham last night Smith is now only a back-up striker and Marriot was even further down the pecking order.

We will need Couhig to have the deep pockets that the mad man used to go on about and even deeper if we are to make an impact at Champs level-just look at Wrexham and Birmingham who were outstanding at our level last season but have had to spend heavily again just to make mid-table.

Smith was never a Championship striker in a million years.

Marriott is a far smarter player and a much better finisher. Smith will put in more miles and be much more of a nuisance, but that doesn't win you games. Marriott does.

You can still do well with an organised team and young players with room to develop like Savage, Abrefa, Dorsett, Kyerewaa, and Ehibhatiomhan.

You can discuss their respective merits, but objectively Smith was ahead of Marriot in the pecking order which was one of the reasons we could sign him.

Well, I don’t rate Wrexham's judgement because they massively overpaid on Smith, to play 4 months of L1 football.

Marriott's not a player you can hope will develop, while Smith is young enough you can hope (he won't).

He's just obviously better. Unless you want someone to run around being a dick and pissing off refs.

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Re: MATCHWATCH : Plymouth Argyle (a)

by Hound » 27 Dec 2025 15:05

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Snowflake Royal Smith was never a Championship striker in a million years.

Marriott is a far smarter player and a much better finisher. Smith will put in more miles and be much more of a nuisance, but that doesn't win you games. Marriott does.

You can still do well with an organised team and young players with room to develop like Savage, Abrefa, Dorsett, Kyerewaa, and Ehibhatiomhan.

You can discuss their respective merits, but objectively Smith was ahead of Marriot in the pecking order which was one of the reasons we could sign him.

Well, I don’t rate Wrexham's judgement because they massively overpaid on Smith, to play 4 months of L1 football.

Marriott's not a player you can hope will develop, while Smith is young enough you can hope (he won't).

He's just obviously better. Unless you want someone to run around being a dick and pissing off refs.


Smith won us plenty of games? He was bloody brilliant for us all over the pitch

Marriott wasn’t playing at champ level either so neither have succeeded there

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Re: MATCHWATCH : Plymouth Argyle (a)

by WestYorksRoyal » 27 Dec 2025 15:09

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WestYorksRoyal You can discuss their respective merits, but objectively Smith was ahead of Marriot in the pecking order which was one of the reasons we could sign him.

Well, I don’t rate Wrexham's judgement because they massively overpaid on Smith, to play 4 months of L1 football.

Marriott's not a player you can hope will develop, while Smith is young enough you can hope (he won't).

He's just obviously better. Unless you want someone to run around being a dick and pissing off refs.


Smith won us plenty of games? He was bloody brilliant for us all over the pitch

Marriott wasn’t playing at champ level either so neither have succeeded there

You can build attacks off Smith. He competes with CBs, makes runs in behind and presses better. He's much more rounded than Marriot.

But if it's a tight game that could be decided by one moment, there's no contest who you want the key chance to fall to.

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Re: MATCHWATCH : Plymouth Argyle (a)

by Hound » 27 Dec 2025 15:47

Smith was consistently decent finisher for us as well. Not quite as lethal as Marriott (on his current run) but he scored plenty of L1 goals over the last 4/5 years

13-15-15-18 L1 goals in the 4 years previous to this

I’d absolutely love him back if it was an option (doubt it will be)

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