MATCHWATCH : Rotherham United (h)

[Gunny Fishcake]

Fireworks after were as disappointing as the game , fitting for a miserable cold wet November day.

Considering we have a new manager, this was a woeful performance , didn't see anything difference from Hunt time, and nothing to give hope

Charlie's wonder goal saved the day but apart from that it was as flat as a pancake

Mid bottom table looms for the rest of the season

[Clyde1998]

I thought we controlled the game, but never really looked particularly dangerous today; Rotherham seemed to be very happy with at least a point. Once again we were saved by a wonder goal.

Defensively sound - obviously helps O'Connor and Williams will still be developing their understanding. Noticed O'Connor was very advanced at times today, often in the half space and put a few balls into the box.

Ehibhatiomhan also stood out for me: looked a lot more lively as a striker; running the channels; running at defenders. Probably his best game as a striker this season.

[RoyalBlue]

I thought we controlled the game, but never really looked particularly dangerous today; Rotherham seemed to be very happy with at least a point. Once again we were saved by a wonder goal.

Defensively sound - obviously helps O'Connor and Williams will still be developing their understanding. Noticed O'Connor was very advanced at times today, often in the half space and put a few balls into the box.

Ehibhatiomhan also stood out for me: looked a lot more lively as a striker; running the channels; running at defenders. Probably his best game as a striker this season.

Strange how people see the same things differently. I thought the only time he looked decent was when he was playing out wide. When he was central I thought he was as poor as he can often be in that position.

[RoyalBlue]

Another poor 1st touch when in on goal. Doyle this time.

We are creating opportunities but our first touch at crucial moments is costing us dearly.

Only saw the second half, but passing quality and first touch were really poor at times. We frequently played a pass too short putting ourselves in touble. Or took so long making a decision we'd telegraphed the pass. Lots of passes backwards when other more positive passes were available.

I thought Wing and Savage were faily poor and at fault for that a lot, but Savage did pull out an absolute screamer.

Doyle is weak as piss and for someone with two good feet doesn’t have much of a first touch.

From the HT highlights, we had a couple of good first half chances, and could have had two pens. Then a couple of good chances second half. So despite looking slow, confused and poor at passing, we still created enough to win that comfortably if we could finish, let alone pass.

Absolutely hate the subs moving everyone around all the time. Don't bring on Garcia at RW and then move him to LB 5 minutes later to bring on Camara ffs. Kelvin got moved from striker to LW to RW. It's sends a message you don't know what you're doing, and you make the team have to constantly re-adjust.

Garcia looked the player most likely to create something when he was playing up front, although there's no chance the ref would've awarded a penalty even if two of their defenders brought him down in the area and then sat on him for two minutes!

[South Coast Royal]

Fancy a win. Rotherham are in fine form, but that just means they're due a hiccup.

Probably tempting fate here, but I watched the Luton v Rotherham game last Saturday and both teams looked pretty poor.

Sherif looked decent as a target man but also went off injured.

I read the manager's comments after that game and he said how pleased he was with the result with 12 first-teamers missing.
A tight 1-1 with Wing scoring for us.

Just the wrong long range shooter but what a shot not really in keeping with the game.

[RoyalBlue]

Yeah I have been watching live games on royals tv for ages. I’m telling you, there is no watch live. All I get is “buy video pass”. I have logged in, I have bought a pass, I have an email confirmation, I have been every which way around the site and it just doesn’t work. If it worked for you today, I guess you got lucky. But the site is an absolute broken mess and I honestly can’t find any way to use my pass.

Cross.

Have you tried clicking on Subscriptions?

Sorry, I don’t want to clog the match thread up with stupid technical issues, so I’ll drop it after this but yeah - I’ve been all over the site. That particular page is a car crash. You can’t scroll the subs, it’s stuck, and at the bottom under “upcoming live streams” the two buttons are “buy video pass” and “buy audio pass” and neither of them work. Not that I’d be any better off if they did, as I have already bought the video pass (via a different route - “match passes”).

Sigh. Was looking forward to watching. I guess the game being shit makes up for it in a weird way.

Another thing that was going to be improved by bringing it back in house!

[Clyde1998]

Really surprised Rhino didn't get some game time, if you're on the bench then you must be fit enough to play? Would have thought with 30 mins to go and with us struggling to get anything going that would be an ideal time for him to sit deep and break up play allowing Wing and Savage to get forward.
Would also have been nice for him to receive a warm welcome back in front of a decent crowd. My only gripe about todays game other than the obvious striking deficiencies was the slow labored build up play and the constant lateral and backward passing!! mostly by Wing.

I'm surprised too; we had a substitution (and one of our three opportunities) left too.

Taking Doyle off and pushing Savage and/or Wing higher up may have been a good way to change things - even if it was just for the last ten minutes.

I thought Doyle was the biggest culprit of backwards passing today (relative to the number of passes he made).

Just got back

We did ok. Much the better side - Rotherham came to stink the place out, Knick a goal and then shithouse - and that’s almost what they did

They’ve been on a good run and not conceded for ages so to actually create a fair bit was promising. They had one shot on target

Wing and Savage didn’t have great games, superb goal aside. Much lower than usual standards of passing

Doyle is frustrating. Just want so much more from him. Ritchie needs to keep his mouth shut to the ref. R Williams did fairly well. Ref was pretty dire tbh. Worst I’ve seen for a while. 4 mins injury time a joke and let them time waste constantly

Kelvin his usual mix of great and shite, often in the same move, but he did get chances and caused them problems throughout. Badly need a proper target man in and get him out wide though if we want to play like we do

Point is ok though. Keeps the unbeaten home run going. We’ve more discipline and shape now, do create as well. Just a couple of players who really should be doing better not offering enough

On the Additional time, isn’t it mandatory 30 seconds per sub and goal? Which would mean he awarded less than 2 minutes for multiple injury stoppages and time wasting. In the second half. There waa one stoppage that was at least 2 minutes. Ahead of 90 I was expecting min of 5, maybe up to 7 or 8.

He seemed to be doing half of Rovrum's stoppages and slow down for them. Freekicks for no advantage because they passed the ball backwards, forcing their player off without treatment because the physios came on, then letting them not restart for about 25 of those 30 seconds.

No - it's merely a rule of thumb.

Noticed the Rotherham player (Tom Holmes?) left the pitch at the closest point and very quickly too. They made their other subs at half-time (so no added time); we made two sets of two subs fairly quickly. These things probably reduced the overall stoppage time today.

[Clyde1998]

I thought we controlled the game, but never really looked particularly dangerous today; Rotherham seemed to be very happy with at least a point. Once again we were saved by a wonder goal.

Defensively sound - obviously helps O'Connor and Williams will still be developing their understanding. Noticed O'Connor was very advanced at times today, often in the half space and put a few balls into the box.

Ehibhatiomhan also stood out for me: looked a lot more lively as a striker; running the channels; running at defenders. Probably his best game as a striker this season.

Strange how people see the same things differently. I thought the only time he looked decent was when he was playing out wide. When he was central I thought he was as poor as he can often be in that position.

I didn't think he looked amazing or anything, just that his movement stood out - especially as we can be very static up top.

Agree he looked more effective out wide and certainly more effective than Ritchie and Randell Williams today.

[Royals and Racers]

15,279 there today

[Clyde1998]

15,279 there today

Not surprised by that figure, although would say that's probably inline with a typical grassroots match - so I don't think the fireworks added much to the gate.

407 away fans - fair play to them.

[PieEater]

Fireworks after were as disappointing as the game , fitting for a miserable cold wet November day.

Considering we have a new manager, this was a woeful performance , didn't see anything difference from Hunt time, and nothing to give hope

Charlie's wonder goal saved the day but apart from that it was as flat as a pancake

Mid bottom table looms for the rest of the season

+1 there was no new manager bounce, this was the same result that Hunt would get - so no obvious progression

TBF it was always on the cards with the pre game hype WTF do they do this? Get the team playing and the results FIRST!

[PieEater]

Just to add on the battle of the Williams, I think McWilliams won.

[West F]

When Noel abandoned the inverted wing positions and played with natural width, i was happy that we were at least stretching teams wide and putting early balls into the box. The last three Noel games looked so much better. Now Richardson has pitched up and immediately gone back to the lack of natural width. We needed a Puscas award goal again today to wrestle a point from a very meh side.
Am I the only person who is frankly astonished by the lack of pace and power in Doyle’s running. He has great feet and can turn away and out from anyone in this league, but looks so slow afterwards. It is like Elliot without the passing ability.
I take it that Kyerewaa and Lane are injured, thus why they were absent from the squad. All in all, nothing has changed really. Still blunt and devoid of width and creativity. At least Camara came on for a little light relief. Savage and Wing huffed and puffed, but with little to nothing happening in front of them, it is a thankless task.

[leon]

I thought we controlled the game, but never really looked particularly dangerous today; Rotherham seemed to be very happy with at least a point. Once again we were saved by a wonder goal.

Defensively sound - obviously helps O'Connor and Williams will still be developing their understanding. Noticed O'Connor was very advanced at times today, often in the half space and put a few balls into the box.

Ehibhatiomhan also stood out for me: looked a lot more lively as a striker; running the channels; running at defenders. Probably his best game as a striker this season.

Strange how people see the same things differently. I thought the only time he looked decent was when he was playing out wide. When he was central I thought he was as poor as he can often be in that position.

Agreed KE was poor up front clearly doesn’t like playing there. Looked so much more comfortable wider.

Thought we were fairly shit. Not getting the Wing gushing praise on BBC Berks. He was either negative or inaccurate in his passing.

So many times we passed it back rather than an available more positive option. We need to unlock some more creative thinking from the midfield.

Subs actually livened us up. Garcia was crying out for the ball.

[PieEater]

I know we've had some shit refs this season but this one was bad, 1min ET for the first half and 4 for the second when it should have been double that. I'll let him off for the most blatent handball but the foul shortly afterwards was a foul every time outside of the penalty area.

Follow that up with some terrible bookings and this is one ref I won't welcome back to the Mad Stad

One thing I did like, and I'm not sure if it's a new rule, if a player goes down and the game is stopped for them they get sent off for 30secs regardless of the trainer coming on.

I had to lol at the ref asking the player if he was OK after being off the pitch for 30 secs, yes of course he was because he feigned the original injury!

[Mr Sitter]

I thought we missed the suspended Kyerewaa today. He may sometimes lack an end product but we could have done with some of his dynamism.

[morganb]

See Richie is now suspended for the next game

[Clyde1998]

I know we've had some shit refs this season but this one was bad, 1min ET for the first half and 4 for the second when it should have been double that. I'll let him off for the most blatent handball but the foul shortly afterwards was a foul every time outside of the penalty area.

Follow that up with some terrible bookings and this is one ref I won't welcome back to the Mad Stad

One thing I did like, and I'm not sure if it's a new rule, if a player goes down and the game is stopped for them they get sent off for 30secs regardless of the trainer coming on.

I had to lol at the ref asking the player if he was OK after being off the pitch for 30 secs, yes of course he was because he feigned the original injury!

I think this has been the case (in the EFL at least) for a number of years now. If you are fouled and get treatment, you can come straight back on; if you weren't fouled, you have to wait thirty seconds before being allowed to come back on.

On the handball:

A less-is-more approach to handball will be maintained, recognising that not every instance of contact between a player’s hand or arm and the ball constitutes an offence.

The focus remains on letting the game flow while penalising only those handball situations that clearly meet the criteria for an offence.

No handball offence mitigating factors:

• Justifiable position/action
• Supportive arm
• Player plays ball onto own arm
• Clear change of trajectory when touched by the same player
• Played by a teammate
• Proximity

Handball offence considerations:

• Deliberate movement of arm to the ball
• Clear additional arm movement to the ball after it has hit another body part
• Arm makes body bigger as a result of being in an unjustifiable position

[The Royal Forester]

How do you “log in to RoyalsTV”?? I can log into the site. But there is no “watch live” anywhere. Just “buy now”. I’ve bloody bought.

Very top right once you click on Royals TV from the main site. It will say log in assuming you are registered with Royals TV.

Yeah I have been watching live games on royals tv for ages. I’m telling you, there is no watch live. All I get is “buy video pass”. I have logged in, I have bought a pass, I have an email confirmation, I have been every which way around the site and it just doesn’t work. If it worked for you today, I guess you got lucky. But the site is an absolute broken mess and I honestly can’t find any way to use my pass.

Cross.

The top line on the home page has various options click "Royals TV" on the next page click "FAQs" That might help you solve your problem. Only audio is available in the UK. though.

[72 bus]

This manager has to go

piss off retard

@brogue

Mods

Please ban this user for disgusting hate speech

Get back on your med's and oxf*rd of back to AE, they know how to cope with you over there.