MATCHWATCH : Burnley (h)

[Snowflake Royal]

Good effort, better side won.

Good experience, showing a lot of our players have some way to go, but can do a decent job of competing.

We move on.

[skipper]

Shame, but deserve a lot of credit for taking it to extra time, especially after some really embarrassing FA Cup performances in recent years.

Agreed. Both teams weren't quite the strongest they could field, but we held our own for long periods.

Would have preferred us to win the other cup game, and had a chance of winning that, but hey ho, it is what it is.

[Armadillo Roadkill]

No one can seriously deny that the better side won, but I think it was closer than the scoreline suggested.

When you laook at the gap in resources between the two clubs and the restrictions we're operating under, we can draw immense credit for this. Burnley will be a Premier League team again next season barring any unforeseen disasters.

Knibbs was tireless, Savage was effective throughout.

But my MOTM could well be Kanu. First 15 minutes it looked like their number 30 had him on toast. Then Savage came over to help so he wasn't exposed 1-2-1. From then on Kanu grew in confidence and ended up with their 30 totally in his pocket.

From their brief appearances, I'd say Osho and Sackey have fine futures ahead of them.

Cold day out. Our attendance was a bit of a joke. Once again the admittance process failed totally, leaving long queues trying to get in after kick off.

The more important game is Stockport next week. Up the Ding.

[Clyde1998]

Good effort from the lads. They fought well, but ultimately tired out and the substitutions were always going to tip the balance back in Burnley's favour. All our subs were academy lads, whilst they were bringing first team players off the bench. Disappointed to be out of the competition, but the better side won the day and we certainly didn't embarrass ourselves with that performance.

[Royals and Racers]

Attendance 7039

[Royal_jimmy]

Fair comments all round I'd say. Burnley showed the quality I miss us having and edged us out.

We can focus our thin squad on the league now.

[Royals and Racers]

Anyone know or can work out how far out Wing was when he scored ?

[JR]

Good effort from the lads. They fought well, but ultimately tired out and the substitutions were always going to tip the balance back in Burnley's favour. All our subs were academy lads, whilst they were bringing first team players off the bench. Disappointed to be out of the competition, but the better side won the day and we certainly didn't embarrass ourselves with that performance.

Yep, when the opponent are bringing in your player of the season from championship promotion push 4 years ago and you are bringing on kids it’s always going to be tough.

Overall, echo many of comments on here. Put on a good showing - didn’t look outclassed for long periods. Good learning experience and we move on to more important league games.

Hopefully the club will have learnt that stuffing all the fans in to one stand is a stupid idea. Massive queues and disputes between fans sitting in the wrong place. And the farce of the Dolan being opened anyway in the end.

[bloody Volvo driver]

No one can seriously deny that the better side won, but I think it was closer than the scoreline suggested.

When you laook at the gap in resources between the two clubs and the restrictions we're operating under, we can draw immense credit for this. Burnley will be a Premier League team again next season barring any unforeseen disasters.

Knibbs was tireless, Savage was effective throughout.

But my MOTM could well be Kanu. First 15 minutes it looked like their number 30 had him on toast. Then Savage came over to help so he wasn't exposed 1-2-1. From then on Kanu grew in confidence and ended up with their 30 totally in his pocket.

From their brief appearances, I'd say Osho and Sackey have fine futures ahead of them.

Cold day out. Our attendance was a bit of a joke. Once again the admittance process failed totally, leaving long queues trying to get in after kick off.

The more important game is Stockport next week. Up the Ding.

I appreciate football is all about opinions, but Kanu MOTM. I thought he had a shocker, kept drifting inside (as CBs tend to do when playing FB) thus always given Burnley an out ball.

Take a look at goals 2&3, let his man run off him for the second and ambled (until he realised the gravity of the situation when he injected a bit of pace, but by then too late) back for the third.

If ever the expression “must have been at a different game” applies, this is it.

[Clyde1998]

Good effort from the lads. They fought well, but ultimately tired out and the substitutions were always going to tip the balance back in Burnley's favour. All our subs were academy lads, whilst they were bringing first team players off the bench. Disappointed to be out of the competition, but the better side won the day and we certainly didn't embarrass ourselves with that performance.

Yep, when the opponent are bringing in your player of the season from championship promotion push 4 years ago and you are bringing on kids it’s always going to be tough.

Overall, echo many of comments on here. Put on a good showing - didn’t look outclassed for long periods. Good learning experience and we move on to more important league games.

Hopefully the club will have learnt that stuffing all the fans in to one stand is a stupid idea. Massive queues and disputes between fans sitting in the wrong place. And the farce of the Dolan being opened anyway in the end.

I ended up cutting into the North Stand to go to the toilet, which was much quieter. However, it took a significant time to get from Y21 to the North Stand due to how crowded the concourses were (and people having no self-awareness, like standing directly in front of block entries).

I understand they're trying to cut costs, but anything over 5,000 home fans really needs to have at least part of the North Stand open from the beginning of ticket sales.

[Delboy]

Attendance a lot more than 7089 the east stand takes 7286 and Burnley brought 2000 at least 9000 present

[stealthpapes]

We were on a hiding to nothing and managed to get some positives out of it.

Main one - that injury break was used to rejig and reset. Turned what could have been a thrashing into a much closer run affair.

[Royals and Racers]

Anyone know or can work out how far out Wing was when he scored ?

Just seen it and paused the coverage and give or take a yard it was 35 yards.

[Clyde1998]

Attendance a lot more than 7089 the east stand takes 7286 and Burnley brought 2000 at least 9000 present

100% agree with this.

James Earnshaw said 7,039 total with 1,314 from Burnley and this is what the Burnley website says.

Felt significantly higher than 5,725 home fans with how packed the East Stand was and the overspill into the North Stand. The East Stand has a capacity of around 7,000.

It also looked like more than 1,300 fans from Burnley - maybe 1,800.

[Clyde1998]

The biggest negative from yesterday could be a potential injury to Harlee Dean. Especially with Mbengue now out for six weeks and the potential of Tyler Bindon going, we could have some sort of Holzman/Stickland/Kanu pairing at the back unless Dorsett is very close to returning. That does not fill me with much confidence.

Hopefully it was only a precaution.

[tmesis]

Attendance a lot more than 7089 the east stand takes 7286 and Burnley brought 2000 at least 9000 present

100% agree with this.

James Earnshaw said 7,039 total with 1,314 from Burnley and this is what the Burnley website says.

Felt significantly higher than 5,725 home fans with how packed the East Stand was and the overspill into the North Stand. The East Stand has a capacity of around 7,000.

It also looked like more than 1,300 fans from Burnley - maybe 1,800.

I suspect this was a turnstile count, which would have missed all those going through the side doors.

The question is why has access through the turnstiles got so much slower, that meant those side doors needed to be opened? Even people with cards seemed to be having trouble getting them to register.

[Armadillo Roadkill]

No one can seriously deny that the better side won, but I think it was closer than the scoreline suggested.

When you laook at the gap in resources between the two clubs and the restrictions we're operating under, we can draw immense credit for this. Burnley will be a Premier League team again next season barring any unforeseen disasters.

Knibbs was tireless, Savage was effective throughout.

But my MOTM could well be Kanu. First 15 minutes it looked like their number 30 had him on toast. Then Savage came over to help so he wasn't exposed 1-2-1. From then on Kanu grew in confidence and ended up with their 30 totally in his pocket.

From their brief appearances, I'd say Osho and Sackey have fine futures ahead of them.

Cold day out. Our attendance was a bit of a joke. Once again the admittance process failed totally, leaving long queues trying to get in after kick off.

The more important game is Stockport next week. Up the Ding.

I appreciate football is all about opinions, but Kanu MOTM. I thought he had a shocker, kept drifting inside (as CBs tend to do when playing FB) thus always given Burnley an out ball.

Take a look at goals 2&3, let his man run off him for the second and ambled (until he realised the gravity of the situation when he injected a bit of pace, but by then too late) back for the third.

If ever the expression “must have been at a different game” applies, this is it.

A fair and respectful challenge - thank you. So rare on here that I'm getting it printed out and framed.

I was watching in real time and haven't seen any replays, so obviously my assessment is flawed. With individual players, some things they do come to your attention, other you miss. I saw lots of good things from him, and seemingly missed the bad.

The drifting inside point you make is an interesting one. I saw the big gaps being left for their winger, but think that wasn't the fault of Kanu's positioning, but more the way the defence is set up. I see it all the time - you're thinking "why doesn't someone mark that winger stood in acres of space who keeps getting the ball?" I figured that's how you keep your back four close to each other, then move to challenge the winger as they move in. Go to the too early and they can just run past you.

I'll watch the goals though. I guess these days the coaching staff will be going through them with Kanu as well. Hopefully he'll address his weaknesses and improve.

[Clyde1998]

Attendance a lot more than 7089 the east stand takes 7286 and Burnley brought 2000 at least 9000 present

100% agree with this.

James Earnshaw said 7,039 total with 1,314 from Burnley and this is what the Burnley website says.

Felt significantly higher than 5,725 home fans with how packed the East Stand was and the overspill into the North Stand. The East Stand has a capacity of around 7,000.

It also looked like more than 1,300 fans from Burnley - maybe 1,800.

I suspect this was a turnstile count, which would have missed all those going through the side doors.

The question is why has access through the turnstiles got so much slower, that meant those side doors needed to be opened? Even people with cards seemed to be having trouble getting them to register.

Didn't realise the gates had to be opened. Very worrying that's the case, as that was never needed when we had a sold out East Stand in the Championship or Premier League.

I wonder if it's a maintenance thing with the turnstiles not being able to turn as quickly as possible.

Another factor is the multiple ways people can enter the ground. Physical season ticket/member card, QR code/barcode from a physical ticket, QR code on a mobile phone, contactless on a mobile phone - does mean people aren't sure what they need to do as they all need to be placed in different locations. As someone who uses their physical season ticket, I have no idea how to assist someone with a QR code on their phone for example. Slows the process down a lot, especially when there's a lot of people who don't usually show up to matches attending. This also assumes people are ready with their ticket before they get to the gate too.

[Snowflake Royal]

No one can seriously deny that the better side won, but I think it was closer than the scoreline suggested.

When you laook at the gap in resources between the two clubs and the restrictions we're operating under, we can draw immense credit for this. Burnley will be a Premier League team again next season barring any unforeseen disasters.

Knibbs was tireless, Savage was effective throughout.

But my MOTM could well be Kanu. First 15 minutes it looked like their number 30 had him on toast. Then Savage came over to help so he wasn't exposed 1-2-1. From then on Kanu grew in confidence and ended up with their 30 totally in his pocket.

From their brief appearances, I'd say Osho and Sackey have fine futures ahead of them.

Cold day out. Our attendance was a bit of a joke. Once again the admittance process failed totally, leaving long queues trying to get in after kick off.

The more important game is Stockport next week. Up the Ding.

I appreciate football is all about opinions, but Kanu MOTM. I thought he had a shocker, kept drifting inside (as CBs tend to do when playing FB) thus always given Burnley an out ball.

Take a look at goals 2&3, let his man run off him for the second and ambled (until he realised the gravity of the situation when he injected a bit of pace, but by then too late) back for the third.

If ever the expression “must have been at a different game” applies, this is it.

A fair and respectful challenge - thank you. So rare on here that I'm getting it printed out and framed.

I was watching in real time and haven't seen any replays, so obviously my assessment is flawed. With individual players, some things they do come to your attention, other you miss. I saw lots of good things from him, and seemingly missed the bad.

The drifting inside point you make is an interesting one. I saw the big gaps being left for their winger, but think that wasn't the fault of Kanu's positioning, but more the way the defence is set up. I see it all the time - you're thinking "why doesn't someone mark that winger stood in acres of space who keeps getting the ball?" I figured that's how you keep your back four close to each other, then move to challenge the winger as they move in. Go to the too early and they can just run past you.

I'll watch the goals though. I guess these days the coaching staff will be going through them with Kanu as well. Hopefully he'll address his weaknesses and improve.

Full backs starting narrow and leaving space is a consistent issue all season, I agree its a tactical choice, rather than individual player error.

I do think we're late and slow to get out and close down.

Like you I thought Kanu started badly but got much better as the game went on. I didn't really see him individually do a lot wrong for the goals, but I wasn't looking that closely. That's not to say he didn’t make mistakes after the first 10-15.

The whole defence just stopped on the first one. Second was good striker movement and finish, third was good striker improvisation with Button a bit slow to smother.


I thought Rushesha looked decent after the first 15 minutes. And Abrefa continues to look promising, though certainly not a winger.

Osho didn't really do anything. Holzman, I thought, looks far better at CB than RB. Wareham's pace surprised me a couple of times and he looked ok.

I think Wing (and us in general) goes long too often.

[Clyde1998]

I appreciate football is all about opinions, but Kanu MOTM. I thought he had a shocker, kept drifting inside (as CBs tend to do when playing FB) thus always given Burnley an out ball.

Take a look at goals 2&3, let his man run off him for the second and ambled (until he realised the gravity of the situation when he injected a bit of pace, but by then too late) back for the third.

If ever the expression “must have been at a different game” applies, this is it.

A fair and respectful challenge - thank you. So rare on here that I'm getting it printed out and framed.

I was watching in real time and haven't seen any replays, so obviously my assessment is flawed. With individual players, some things they do come to your attention, other you miss. I saw lots of good things from him, and seemingly missed the bad.

The drifting inside point you make is an interesting one. I saw the big gaps being left for their winger, but think that wasn't the fault of Kanu's positioning, but more the way the defence is set up. I see it all the time - you're thinking "why doesn't someone mark that winger stood in acres of space who keeps getting the ball?" I figured that's how you keep your back four close to each other, then move to challenge the winger as they move in. Go to the too early and they can just run past you.

I'll watch the goals though. I guess these days the coaching staff will be going through them with Kanu as well. Hopefully he'll address his weaknesses and improve.

Full backs starting narrow and leaving space is a consistent issue all season, I agree its a tactical choice, rather than individual player error.

I do think we're late and slow to get out and close down.

Like you I thought Kanu started badly but got much better as the game went on. I didn't really see him individually do a lot wrong for the goals, but I wasn't looking that closely. That's not to say he didn’t make mistakes after the first 10-15.

The whole defence just stopped on the first one. Second was good striker movement and finish, third was good striker improvisation with Button a bit slow to smother.


I thought Rushesha looked decent after the first 15 minutes. And Abrefa continues to look promising, though certainly not a winger.

Osho didn't really do anything. Holzman, I thought, looks far better at CB than RB. Wareham's pace surprised me a couple of times and he looked ok.

I think Wing (and us in general) goes long too often.

The positioning of the full-backs certainly looked like a tactical decision, same for how deep the wingers came back. Did leave us completely open down the wing though - particularly the left side.

Agree we're too slow to get out and press. We conceded a lot of goals last season (and some this season) because of it. Also agree Kanu grew into the game.

IIRC, the first goal was the defence trying to play offside and failing. The second was certainly a good move and the third was a one of those awkward scrambled flicks that just so happened to go in. By extra-time, they had some of their better players on too and we were too tired to really compete.

Rushesha looked decent; Abrefa looked better than I remember him from before his injury, but as you say not a winger; thought Osho was okay, but didn't really do anything to stand out (don't know what his actual position is, but played RW rather than full-back as he has in the past); Holzman looked a decent option at CB; Wareham was incredibly poor in the first half hour (even just ball control), but got a bit better as the game went on - also not a winger.

Obviously with the players on the wing, they're only there because of injuries and lack of depth.