MATCHWATCH : Cardiff City (a)

[Ascotexgunner]

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TBF this is Scottish level football so he might have a bit more success.

[Royal_jimmy]

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TBF this is Scottish level football so he might have a bit more success.

Anything is better than Noel Hunt right now

[WestYorksRoyal]

Create this many chances every week and we'll win at least 3-2.

what happens if we play as we have the rest of the games?

And that's just it. No matter how well we play we aren't getting the results. And it's yet another disappointing away result. The investors in the club will only be interested in results, and when you look at the table tonight it ain't pretty after 12games.. I thought Noel might be gone Monday but lose or possibly draw Tuesday and I'm convinced he will be.

I think this is the crux of the matter. This club is being run as a business now, meaning relegation is an unmitigated disaster for those putting their money in. They will want to be in the Championship within 3 years.

You can look at a good performance today, but you can't sugarcoat our league position after 12 games, especially when it's a good squad which an experienced manager could probably turn around pretty quickly. Hunt won't survive if he doesn't get minimum 4 points from the next 2. Wouldn't shock me if he's finished already.

Big similarities with Selles 2 years ago. But we had no hierarchy who would sack him, and no manager would have come to us in the state we were in. He got another chance he didn't deserve and, fair play, he turned it around. But the club situation gave him protection that Hunt doesn't have.

[Royal_jimmy]

what happens if we play as we have the rest of the games?

And that's just it. No matter how well we play we aren't getting the results. And it's yet another disappointing away result. The investors in the club will only be interested in results, and when you look at the table tonight it ain't pretty after 12games.. I thought Noel might be gone Monday but lose or possibly draw Tuesday and I'm convinced he will be.

I think this is the crux of the matter. This club is being run as a business now, meaning relegation is an unmitigated disaster for those putting their money in. They will want to be in the Championship within 3 years.

You can look at a good performance today, but you can't sugarcoat our league position after 12 games, especially when it's a good squad which an experienced manager could probably turn around pretty quickly. Hunt won't survive if he doesn't get minimum 4 points from the next 2. Wouldn't shock me if he's finished already.

Big similarities with Selles 2 years ago. But we had no hierarchy who would sack him, and no manager would have come to us in the state we were in. He got another chance he didn't deserve and, fair play, he turned it around. But the club situation gave him protection that Hunt doesn't have.

We are nothing like Madejski's club though we actually have some good players

[Hound]

I’m a bit in two minds. Caveat I missed the second half but first half was the best we’ve played this season

Not sure if it suggests we will keep playing like that and get results or whether we can play well and still not win games

Certainly signs of improvement today (for the first time imo) but being 2 points off bottom and 22nd place at this stage is utterly unacceptable along with some awful performances along the way

I don’t think Hunt could argue if he got the sack now but if he doesn’t we absolutely must get results in the next couple of games - 4 points min

[John Madejski's Wallet]

Create this many chances every week and we'll win at least 3-2.

But we created chances today and missed them. We weren't under constant pressure but still conceded twice. A team playing well and finding ways to lose is still a relegation candidate. The next 2 are at home against weaker opponents, so if we can keep up the performance from today we can win them, hopefully get a bit of confidence and find the composure to go with it. But if we can't time is up for Hunt.

Plus, it's not like we've been playing well. Today probably the best performance of the season. Wouldn't be surprised if we look nervous and lacklustre on Tuesday.

I agree with everything here.

Yeah same. All on the next 2 games really. Win and we'll look so much more comfortable. Lose and it looks really bad

[Hound]

But we created chances today and missed them. We weren't under constant pressure but still conceded twice. A team playing well and finding ways to lose is still a relegation candidate. The next 2 are at home against weaker opponents, so if we can keep up the performance from today we can win them, hopefully get a bit of confidence and find the composure to go with it. But if we can't time is up for Hunt.

Plus, it's not like we've been playing well. Today probably the best performance of the season. Wouldn't be surprised if we look nervous and lacklustre on Tuesday.

I agree with everything here.

Yeah same. All on the next 2 games really. Win and we'll look so much more comfortable. Lose and it looks really bad

I suspect Hunt has bought himself another game or two with the performance but suspect lose on Tuesday (or even draw) and he’ll be done

[retro royal]

Not sure about Noel, but today is on a few players, we should have won that, Lane has no end product and Doyle is a lazy Oxford. Not sure what happened for their first goal seemed like we totally lost shape and had a back six

[Royal_jimmy]

I’m a bit in two minds. Caveat I missed the second half but first half was the best we’ve played this season

Not sure if it suggests we will keep playing like that and get results or whether we can play well and still not win games

Certainly signs of improvement today (for the first time imo) but being 2 points off bottom and 22nd place at this stage is utterly unacceptable along with some awful performances along the way

I don’t think Hunt could argue if he got the sack now but if he doesn’t we absolutely must get results in the next couple of games - 4 points min

I did think we played quite well in it but we deserved to lose.

We've been in league two for eight years in our history. Anyone accepting that is tinpot and we deserve to be doing far better. Most of those who w e negative are lefty twats who disregard our potential as a club

[Snowflake Royal]

Not if we concede 2 soft goals every week.

Create this many chances every week and we'll win at least 3-2.

But we created chances today and missed them. We weren't under constant pressure but still conceded twice. A team playing well and finding ways to lose is still a relegation candidate. The next 2 are at home against weaker opponents, so if we can keep up the performance from today we can win them, hopefully get a bit of confidence and find the composure to go with it. But if we can't time is up for Hunt.

Plus, it's not like we've been playing well. Today probably the best performance of the season. Wouldn't be surprised if we look nervous and lacklustre on Tuesday.

We didn't miss them, we came up against a keeper in great form, there's a difference

[Extended-Phenotype]

Get Lane out of the team, for everyone's good including his.

Don’t just get him out the team, terminate his contract for match fixing. THREE sitters missed - is this guy really that shit, or is he missing them deliberately?

Absolute toilet player.

[Snowflake Royal]

Get Lane out of the team, for everyone's good including his.

Don’t just get him out the team, terminate his contract for match fixing. THREE sitters missed - is this guy really that shit, or is he missing them deliberately?

Absolute toilet player.

Bar missing the goals (good save, not ideal for a left footer, and great block), I thought Lane was, similar to most of the team, quite a lot better against Cardiff than in recent games.

If I was to compile a list of players who aren't good enough to start based on Cardiff, it would be Doyle, Stevens and Burns in the top 3.

Burns having been poor most of the season. He's just so bloody awkward and slow. CB order of preference for me is Williams, O'Connor, Dorsett, Yiadom, Burns, Stickland.

I'd be interested to see Kyerewaa, Ehibhatiomhan or even Ritchie start in the 10 over Doyle at the moment. Him and Elliott have been disappointing amidst the little flashes of technical ability they've shown.

[Extended-Phenotype]

Get Lane out of the team, for everyone's good including his.

Don’t just get him out the team, terminate his contract for match fixing. THREE sitters missed - is this guy really that shit, or is he missing them deliberately?

Absolute toilet player.

Bar missing the goals (good save, not ideal for a left footer, and great block), I thought Lane was, similar to most of the team, quite a lot better against Cardiff than in recent games.

If I was to compile a list of players who aren't good enough to start based on Cardiff, it would be Doyle, Stevens and Burns in the top 3.

Burns having been poor most of the season. He's just so bloody awkward and slow. CB order of preference for me is Williams, O'Connor, Dorsett, Yiadom, Burns, Stickland.

I'd be interested to see Kyerewaa, Ehibhatiomhan or even Ritchie start in the 10 over Doyle at the moment. Him and Elliott have been disappointing amidst the little flashes of technical ability they've shown.

Mate, my nan could have scored that and she plays in League 2.

Doyle is just such a nothing footballer. Stick Wing in the hole, and stick Savage and Elliott behind him.

[Snowflake Royal]

Don’t just get him out the team, terminate his contract for match fixing. THREE sitters missed - is this guy really that shit, or is he missing them deliberately?

Absolute toilet player.

Bar missing the goals (good save, not ideal for a left footer, and great block), I thought Lane was, similar to most of the team, quite a lot better against Cardiff than in recent games.

If I was to compile a list of players who aren't good enough to start based on Cardiff, it would be Doyle, Stevens and Burns in the top 3.

Burns having been poor most of the season. He's just so bloody awkward and slow. CB order of preference for me is Williams, O'Connor, Dorsett, Yiadom, Burns, Stickland.

I'd be interested to see Kyerewaa, Ehibhatiomhan or even Ritchie start in the 10 over Doyle at the moment. Him and Elliott have been disappointing amidst the little flashes of technical ability they've shown.

Mate, my nan could have scored that and she plays in League 2.

Doyle is just such a nothing footballer. Stick Wing in the hole, and stick Savage and Elliott behind him.

If you were talking about the o e in the last game, I could have scored that.

The first one against Cardiff, keeper is spread well, there's a route round him to the right post for the right footer that isn't really on for the left footer, and going the other side of the keeper is harder from where he is. Should have done better, but its not glaring like the other week.

I'd say the second v Cardiff was worse, but you've just got to give props to Fish for the block. As you would to Dorsett for his first half stop, rather than criticising their player for not scoring.

[Extended-Phenotype]

Bar missing the goals (good save, not ideal for a left footer, and great block), I thought Lane was, similar to most of the team, quite a lot better against Cardiff than in recent games.

If I was to compile a list of players who aren't good enough to start based on Cardiff, it would be Doyle, Stevens and Burns in the top 3.

Burns having been poor most of the season. He's just so bloody awkward and slow. CB order of preference for me is Williams, O'Connor, Dorsett, Yiadom, Burns, Stickland.

I'd be interested to see Kyerewaa, Ehibhatiomhan or even Ritchie start in the 10 over Doyle at the moment. Him and Elliott have been disappointing amidst the little flashes of technical ability they've shown.

Mate, my nan could have scored that and she plays in League 2.

Doyle is just such a nothing footballer. Stick Wing in the hole, and stick Savage and Elliott behind him.

If you were talking about the o e in the last game, I could have scored that.

The first one against Cardiff, keeper is spread well, there's a route round him to the right post for the right footer that isn't really on for the left footer, and going the other side of the keeper is harder from where he is. Should have done better, but its not glaring like the other week.

Well, thank oxf*rd he missed an even easier sitter the other week to make missing this one look acceptable by comparison!

Honestly, never mind dropping the bastard, I’d be calling the police to have him arrested on suspicion of match fixing.

[Hound]

Lane should obvs have scored those two but outside of that I thought he looked pretty good

Have to remember he did also win us 2 points with a great goal not so long ago

Just think he’s lacking a bit of confidence and a defined role. I think he’s more a genuine winger but then we don’t really play that way. Someone to get wide and put good crosses in etc

[Mr Angry]

Obviously we are going to have to start converting those chances in order to win games, but as most people before the game were expecting an easy Cardiff win (which this wasn't) maybe they should try to park their confirmation bias for 5 minutes and acknowledge that the team is getting better, they are creating more chances and it would be genuinely surprising t we didn't finish up mid-table.

[Hound]

Obviously we are going to have to start converting those chances in order to win games, but as most people before the game were expecting an easy Cardiff win (which this wasn't) maybe they should try to park their confirmation bias for 5 minutes and acknowledge that the team is getting better, they are creating more chances and it would be genuinely surprising t we didn't finish up mid-table.

On a sample of one game. Cardiff may just have had an off day

We were rubbish against Exeter and Mansfield in the two games before

Need to a run of genuinely good performances before I believe we’re in a false position

[BarryWhiteRFC]

Get Lane out of the team, for everyone's good including his.

Don’t just get him out the team, terminate his contract for match fixing. THREE sitters missed - is this guy really that shit, or is he missing them deliberately?

Absolute toilet player.

I'm glad I'm not the only one who thinks like this. I am sick of seeing his name on the team sheet knowing if he gets a chance, he's just going to miss.

I know people will say you need to give him some credit for getting there and being in those positions, but, for me, he gives the ball away too much as well as missing the sitters. So for that reason, I'm out. Start anyone in his place.

However, I quite like Doyle, maybe I am missing something. I'll pay more attention to him in the next game.

[Snowflake Royal]

Get Lane out of the team, for everyone's good including his.

Don’t just get him out the team, terminate his contract for match fixing. THREE sitters missed - is this guy really that shit, or is he missing them deliberately?

Absolute toilet player.

I'm glad I'm not the only one who thinks like this. I am sick of seeing his name on the team sheet knowing if he gets a chance, he's just going to miss.

I know people will say you need to give him some credit for getting there and being in those positions, but, for me, he gives the ball away too much as well as missing the sitters. So for that reason, I'm out. Start anyone in his place.

However, I quite like Doyle, maybe I am missing something. I'll pay more attention to him in the next game.

Doyle looks tidy, and the sort of player who should be good. But whathe actually done?

He's comfortable on both feet, but he can't shoot, he can't break with pace, he doesn’t really ever beat his man...

He's a very modern footballer. Technically skillful. Tidy simple passes. Achieves nothing. And I would say at fault for the first goal. If Savage waa in his place, he'd have bust a gut, tracked the guy through the middle, closing him down and making life hard, rather than trotting back gently in his wake.