HMRC Winding up petition/order

[SouthDownsRoyal]

Whilst I may joke about it being only football this kind of thing is a complete disgrace. The fact nobody at the club can even be bothered to acknowledge the clear concerns the supporters have is beyond a joke and if we were Millwall or Leeds our supporters would have taken over the stadiums by now.

The people behind the protest movement need to ramp things up. They need a maverick in charge of it and sadly they don't.

I agree with this. Like most I am numb to it all now, nothing surprises me anymore but as you say the silence and apathy is amazing, and they expect people to pay hundreds of pounds to buy season tickets?

[Orion1871]

Whilst I may joke about it being only football this kind of thing is a complete disgrace. The fact nobody at the club can even be bothered to acknowledge the clear concerns the supporters have is beyond a joke and if we were Millwall or Leeds our supporters would have taken over the stadiums by now.

The people behind the protest movement need to ramp things up. They need a maverick in charge of it and sadly they don't.

Itk moment. The club actually called in security to the stadium last week because they thought there would be some trouble, but obviously, it never materialised.

[Royal_jimmy]

The biggest creditor is the fans. After years of under perfomance and no success, every season ticket holder wants all their money back and the club won't pay out

[Winston Biscuit]

Are HMRC an actual IRL genuine WUM?

[blythspartan]

I’m still in camp HMRC was paid on 23/06. If that isn’t the case we could be in deep sh*t, but I can’t see that we’d be announcing more friendlies if we’re facing being wound up.

I still expect Selles to be announced soon, and just maybe we have some wiggle room to make some signings.

[WestYorksRoyal]

I’m still in camp HMRC was paid on 23/06. If that isn’t the case we could be in deep sh*t, but I can’t see that we’d be announcing more friendlies if we’re facing being wound up.

I still expect Selles to be announced soon, and just maybe we have some wiggle room to make some signings.

I agree with this. And Selles literally announced now

[Hound]

I’m still in camp HMRC was paid on 23/06. If that isn’t the case we could be in deep sh*t, but I can’t see that we’d be announcing more friendlies if we’re facing being wound up.

I still expect Selles to be announced soon, and just maybe we have some wiggle room to make some signings.

I agree with this. And Selles literally announced now

Yeah same

[Royal_jimmy]

The fact this is being discussed over social media shows

1) the club are a disgrace not quashing the speculation if it's not true and continuing to mug off the fans who have bought season tickets.

2) there's truth in it and we are deep in the brown stuff

[Brogue]

It’s definitely true Jimmy it’s been confirmed by Kieron McGuire. But if it’s already been paid off then it’s a non story really

[tmesis]

In reality, it's very rare for a winding up order to be carried out on a football club. This appears to be our fourth, and we never even heard about the other three.

[Lower West]

What we draw from this is that the owners personally are in the mire financially. Have been since the latter part of 2022. The troubling part of the whole situation is what lies outside the club that we are not aware of. Dai appears to be a devious and self centred individual. I'm sure that there's a web of deceit and fraud that's going to surface. The owners are playing for time that's a given. How long have they got before the wheels come off completely.

[blythspartan]

I think Dai is looking for more investment and Mike Ashley’s name was mentioned on Twitter last week.

Personally, I don’t see Dai as a monster only an owner who has made some sh*t decisions. I am probably alone here but I think his intentions for the club are good but he’s running out of money.

I am not sure how many clubs are open and honest about their finances and whether they’d be making announcements about unpaid tax bills. The problem is the silence allows paranoia, gossip and panic to fester. I can see why staff are being silenced as that’s pretty routine in these types of situations.

I really hope it can all be resolved and that we can end up with a club worthy of our support.

[Snowflake Royal]

The fact this is being discussed over social media shows

1) the club are a disgrace not quashing the speculation if it's not true and continuing to mug off the fans who have bought season tickets.

2) there's truth in it and we are deep in the brown stuff

Absolutely standard practice to not comment on ongoing legal matters.

I wish people would shut up about statements. We got one from Bowen at the end of the season. We got one from the useless CEO about 2 weeks ago. They say nothing interesting. People complain about what is said, what isn't said. And within days want another one because there's a new twitter rumour.

Get over the social media instant gratification herd and realise you don’t have any right or reasonable expectation of hearing what's going on at the club 24/7. You're a customer, not the majority shareholder.

[Green]

If true it's clear Dai Yongge is shot of us and isn't funding the club any longer.

We have had winding up petitions before

Is there a link where we can sign his one?

POTD

[Sutekh]

It can be settled cleanly and easily but sadly it will never happen. All Mr Dai needs to do is face up to the fans through an open statement setting out things as they currently stand and what the plans are for the short and long term futures and what will be done to eradicate and precent recurring the immediate issues around the club off the field.

[YorkshireRoyal99]

I think Dai is looking for more investment and Mike Ashley’s name was mentioned on Twitter last week.

Personally, I don’t see Dai as a monster only an owner who has made some sh*t decisions. I am probably alone here but I think his intentions for the club are good but he’s running out of money.

I am not sure how many clubs are open and honest about their finances and whether they’d be making announcements about unpaid tax bills. The problem is the silence allows paranoia, gossip and panic to fester. I can see why staff are being silenced as that’s pretty routine in these types of situations.

I really hope it can all be resolved and that we can end up with a club worthy of our support.

I'm sure all owners' intentions are good, I can't imagine any business owner purposely going out and losing money for an asset that they own.

He's made some poor decisions because he's proven he's got little idea on how to run a football club. People can argue the Beijing Renhe situation was different and Roselare financially don't have the same strength in Belgium as in England but he's now grossly overspent at all 3 of his clubs, with ourselves and Roselare running into financial difficulties because of that.

If you are making poor decisions at your third attempt, you're incompetent and shouldn't be in the industry.

[Stranded]

It can be settled cleanly and easily but sadly it will never happen. All Mr Dai needs to do is face up to the fans through an open statement setting out things as they currently stand and what the plans are for the short and long term futures and what will be done to eradicate and precent recurring the immediate issues around the club off the field.

Well yes, until something else goes awry and then there would be an ask for another statement to confirm what is going on this time. I'm not saying it wouldn't be welcomed but it won't be clean as you suggest as people will just dissect what it isn't say, or what it could mean....

I saw someone on Twitter holding up a statement from Cardiff Rugby that they put out following rumours of merger as the way forward, except the statement literally said nothing to dispell the fear that there may well be a merger between them and another Welsh side.

It almost makes you wish for the day where the only outlet for news of the club was the local paper, none of knew or cared what was going on behind the scenes, no-one was demanding answers and no-one was able to dig up worrying news without proper context.

[From Despair To Where?]

The fact this is being discussed over social media shows

1) the club are a disgrace not quashing the speculation if it's not true and continuing to mug off the fans who have bought season tickets.

2) there's truth in it and we are deep in the brown stuff

Absolutely standard practice to not comment on ongoing legal matters.

I wish people would shut up about statements. We got one from Bowen at the end of the season. We got one from the useless CEO about 2 weeks ago. They say nothing interesting. People complain about what is said, what isn't said. And within days want another one because there's a new twitter rumour.

Get over the social media instant gratification herd and realise you don’t have any right or reasonable expectation of hearing what's going on at the club 24/7. You're a customer, not the majority shareholder.

We have until 29th June to answer the EFL charges and, as you say, they're not going to make a public statement regarding ongoing legal matters beyond what they've already said.

[Forbury Lion]

Does Dai Yongge have any other investments, trade partners and wot not in the UK which may also be affected by the failure to pay HMRC on time?
Can't do his reputation any good, at least not in the UK.

[Silver Fox]

In reality, it's very rare for a winding up order to be carried out on a football club. This appears to be our fourth, and we never even heard about the other three.

Maybe they're not so rare and you just don't hear about them?