Relegation poll

[Snowflake Royal]

Obviously league games.

[Hound]

Obviously league games.

So as a team we really need about 25-30 games all in to make a judgement on how the season is going?

[Snowflake Royal]

Obviously league games.

So as a team we really need about 25-30 games all in to make a judgement on how the season is going?

The cup games are meaningless as the quality of opposition is very varied and we don’t field our first team.

10 games you get a decent sense of where you are, then 10 games, roughly, to see if you can do anything about it.

You know this though. You just made your mind up after 5 or 6.

[Hound]

Obviously league games.

So as a team we really need about 25-30 games all in to make a judgement on how the season is going?

The cup games are meaningless as the quality of opposition is very varied and we don’t field our first team.

10 games you get a decent sense of where you are, then 10 games, roughly, to see if you can do anything about it.

You know this though. You just made your mind up after 5 or 6.

But you can still see what the manager is trying to do in cup games. How we set up, and patterns we are trying to make

The 20 game rule is your thing, that’s not in any way a measure used consistently

And yeah I could see after 5/6 games that things won’t working and they still aren’t. Didn’t like the demotion of academy players, the number of other signings made.

I admire your backing of Hunt but I can’t really see what’s it’s based on other than a sense of some sort of loyalty and wishful thinking. I can’t see how this team under this management becomes a good side I’m afraid; and I don’t see a longer term plan either

[andrew1957]

Win next two home games and relegation worries will dissipate. We have played a lot of the top sides away and have a lot of easier gams ahead before NY. Reckon we will be mid table half way through the season.

[Snowflake Royal]

So as a team we really need about 25-30 games all in to make a judgement on how the season is going?

The cup games are meaningless as the quality of opposition is very varied and we don’t field our first team.

10 games you get a decent sense of where you are, then 10 games, roughly, to see if you can do anything about it.

You know this though. You just made your mind up after 5 or 6.

But you can still see what the manager is trying to do in cup games. How we set up, and patterns we are trying to make

The 20 game rule is your thing, that’s not in any way a measure used consistently

And yeah I could see after 5/6 games that things won’t working and they still aren’t. Didn’t like the demotion of academy players, the number of other signings made.

I admire your backing of Hunt but I can’t really see what’s it’s based on other than a sense of some sort of loyalty and wishful thinking. I can’t see how this team under this management becomes a good side I’m afraid; and I don’t see a longer term plan either

It's got nothing to do with Hunt. And everything to do with not just jerking knees at some poor form.

[Orion1871]

It's not knee jerk if you are considering what you are seeing on the pitch in those losses and you can't see an obvious plan from the manager. No one is merely saying, "oh the results are bad get rid of him". Well maybe Jimmy is, but he's a blithering idiot.

It's the Jose Gomes factor, lovely guy, you root for him to win because he's one of the good guys. It's just not happening and it's difficult to see what his plan is and whether he has the ability to turn it around.

[Snowflake Royal]

It's not knee jerk if you are considering what you are seeing on the pitch in those losses and you can't see an obvious plan from the manager. No one is merely saying, "oh the results are bad get rid of him". Well maybe Jimmy is, but he's a blithering idiot.

It's the Jose Gomes factor, lovely guy, you root for him to win because he's one of the good guys. It's just not happening and it's difficult to see what his plan is and whether he has the ability to turn it around.

We want to see better performances.

Better performances don't count. It’s only one game. Cardiff were rubbish. We still lost.

[Hound]

It's not knee jerk if you are considering what you are seeing on the pitch in those losses and you can't see an obvious plan from the manager. No one is merely saying, "oh the results are bad get rid of him". Well maybe Jimmy is, but he's a blithering idiot.

It's the Jose Gomes factor, lovely guy, you root for him to win because he's one of the good guys. It's just not happening and it's difficult to see what his plan is and whether he has the ability to turn it around.

We want to see better performances.

Better performances don't count. It’s only one game. Cardiff were rubbish. We still lost.

That’s not really what people are saying though is it?

You can’t say we’ve turned a corner on one good display. Yes everyone inc me acknowledges we were a lot better - but that doesn’t mean he’s cracked it and all the cynics inc me can now shut up

Cardiff could have had an off day. It could have been a one off from us. Tuesday we may be crap again. Defensively we still let through 2 pretty poor goals - all of those are true

On the other hand if this display is the start of a consistent improvement then fantastic.

Both the above need to be taken as the context

I think the fans have been patient tbh. Had Hunt not had the Reading connection and not been such a good guy generally, they’d have turned against him weeks ago

[Snowflake Royal]

It's not knee jerk if you are considering what you are seeing on the pitch in those losses and you can't see an obvious plan from the manager. No one is merely saying, "oh the results are bad get rid of him". Well maybe Jimmy is, but he's a blithering idiot.

It's the Jose Gomes factor, lovely guy, you root for him to win because he's one of the good guys. It's just not happening and it's difficult to see what his plan is and whether he has the ability to turn it around.

We want to see better performances.

Better performances don't count. It’s only one game. Cardiff were rubbish. We still lost.

That’s not really what people are saying though is it?

You can’t say we’ve turned a corner on one good display. Yes everyone inc me acknowledges we were a lot better - but that doesn’t mean he’s cracked it and all the cynics inc me can now shut up

Cardiff could have had an off day. It could have been a one off from us. Tuesday we may be crap again. Defensively we still let through 2 pretty poor goals - all of those are true

On the other hand if this display is the start of a consistent improvement then fantastic.

Both the above need to be taken as the context

I think the fans have been patient tbh. Had Hunt not had the Reading connection and not been such a good guy generally, they’d have turned against him weeks ago

Well, we have very different standards for patient.

[Ascotexgunner]

I don't think it but mid table is bitterly disappointing if we finish there.

[traff]

Imagine if Marriott or Wing miss a few games or worse, both of them. Where do we end up then?

I’m not getting too carried away over 45 minutes where we actually looked decent. Even though we still defended poorly and missed some easy chances. To be fair, most of the Cardiff fans I chatted with before the game were a bit worried about it anyway, given how they’ve been playing lately.

Still sticking with my pre-season call of 16th, but I’ve got zero confidence in it if we lose either of those two for any length of time.

[leon]

We want to see better performances.

Better performances don't count. It’s only one game. Cardiff were rubbish. We still lost.

That’s not really what people are saying though is it?

You can’t say we’ve turned a corner on one good display. Yes everyone inc me acknowledges we were a lot better - but that doesn’t mean he’s cracked it and all the cynics inc me can now shut up

Cardiff could have had an off day. It could have been a one off from us. Tuesday we may be crap again. Defensively we still let through 2 pretty poor goals - all of those are true

On the other hand if this display is the start of a consistent improvement then fantastic.

Both the above need to be taken as the context

I think the fans have been patient tbh. Had Hunt not had the Reading connection and not been such a good guy generally, they’d have turned against him weeks ago

Well, we have very different standards for patient.

So 20 games is Luton - 20th December.

When does patience become misguided? What happens if we are 15 games in and the teams above are getting away from us?

I don't know what will happen - what I do know is that is we want to have a decent season we are leaving it very late. A ludicrous McDermott type run of winning game is required now.

[leon]

We want to see better performances.

Better performances don't count. It’s only one game. Cardiff were rubbish. We still lost.

That’s not really what people are saying though is it?

You can’t say we’ve turned a corner on one good display. Yes everyone inc me acknowledges we were a lot better - but that doesn’t mean he’s cracked it and all the cynics inc me can now shut up

Cardiff could have had an off day. It could have been a one off from us. Tuesday we may be crap again. Defensively we still let through 2 pretty poor goals - all of those are true

On the other hand if this display is the start of a consistent improvement then fantastic.

Both the above need to be taken as the context

I think the fans have been patient tbh. Had Hunt not had the Reading connection and not been such a good guy generally, they’d have turned against him weeks ago

Well, we have very different standards for patient.

So 20 games is Luton - 20th December.

When does patience become misguided? What happens if we are 15 games in and the teams above are getting away from us?

I don't know what will happen - what I do know is that is we want to have a decent season we are leaving it very late. A ludicrous McDermott type run of winning game is required now.

[stealthpapes]

you can say that again

[leon]

you can say that again

So 20 games is Luton - 20th December.

When does patience become misguided? What happens if we are 15 games in and the teams above are getting away from us?

I don't know what will happen - what I do know is that is we want to have a decent season we are leaving it very late. A ludicrous McDermott type run of winning game is required now.

[andrew1957]

I am backing us to win tomorrow night and then we will be up to 15th or 16th. Win again against out of form Doncaster on Saturday and we overtake Doncaster and move up somewhere between 12-15th. No need to panic anytime soon.

[SouthDownsRoyal]

If we win the next 34 games we will break our record 106 points tally.