Pre-season games 2022/2023

[Hound]

I don’t see any players refusing to play here in the heat either tbh

We’ve played World Cup games in stifling conditions and got on with it for example

With this specified game just don’t think there’s much to be gained from doing it, and arguably asking public to travel when been told not to unless absolutely necessary

[Stranded]

40° is too hot anywhere.

We get 1 or 2 days over 40c per year here, it is absolutely fcuking horrific. Literally walking to the end of the road feels like running a marathon, and that is with a dry heat - add any humidity to it and the air feels like a wall. It is horrible and anyone trying to downgrade it to "it's just summer", can take a seat (not in the shade) and shut it.

Some countries that have those temperatures regularly have built infrastructure to cope i.e. everything is air conned or even moves underground but the key thing is, in countries where it is regularly hotter than 40c, people don't go outside unless they need to. Life shifts later in the day than it does in the UK i.e. dinner is at 10pm not between 5 and 7pm.

But I know for a fact people play football matches in very hot conditions with stadiums far far less capable than ours.

I accept we have a humid heat, which isn't as nice but we're not the only humid country.

We should just face the fact that we are relatively soft and move on. On the flip side we can deal with the cold much better.

Just to put things into context - they have evacuated around 20k people it parts of France because it has got so hot, the ground has literally caught on fire. Fires will break out in the UK over the next couple of days, these temps aren't normal - that is why they are record breaking. I'm not saying people shouldn't do stuff if they are comfortable with the risk but playing a game of football that doesn't need to be played and refunded ticket prices to those who don't now want to go, just seems like a risk not worth taking. More on the side of those who have to travel to attend than the players themselves.

[tmesis]

40° is too hot anywhere.

We get 1 or 2 days over 40c per year here, it is absolutely fcuking horrific. Literally walking to the end of the road feels like running a marathon, and that is with a dry heat - add any humidity to it and the air feels like a wall. It is horrible and anyone trying to downgrade it to "it's just summer", can take a seat (not in the shade) and shut it.

Some countries that have those temperatures regularly have built infrastructure to cope i.e. everything is air conned or even moves underground but the key thing is, in countries where it is regularly hotter than 40c, people don't go outside unless they need to. Life shifts later in the day than it does in the UK i.e. dinner is at 10pm not between 5 and 7pm.

But I know for a fact people play football matches in very hot conditions with stadiums far far less capable than ours.

I accept we have a humid heat, which isn't as nice but we're not the only humid country.

We should just face the fact that we are relatively soft and move on. On the flip side we can deal with the cold much better.

We're nowhere near being 'a humid country'. Go outdoors in the hot months in any far east country, and the climate is much worse than this for playing in, and they do still often play at 3 pm too, although usually later.

31C with the sun setting really shouldn't be a big issue at all. It's a friendly, so it'll be half-paced with loads of substititions anyway.

[Millsy]

We get 1 or 2 days over 40c per year here, it is absolutely fcuking horrific. Literally walking to the end of the road feels like running a marathon, and that is with a dry heat - add any humidity to it and the air feels like a wall. It is horrible and anyone trying to downgrade it to "it's just summer", can take a seat (not in the shade) and shut it.

Some countries that have those temperatures regularly have built infrastructure to cope i.e. everything is air conned or even moves underground but the key thing is, in countries where it is regularly hotter than 40c, people don't go outside unless they need to. Life shifts later in the day than it does in the UK i.e. dinner is at 10pm not between 5 and 7pm.

But I know for a fact people play football matches in very hot conditions with stadiums far far less capable than ours.

I accept we have a humid heat, which isn't as nice but we're not the only humid country.

We should just face the fact that we are relatively soft and move on. On the flip side we can deal with the cold much better.

Just to put things into context - they have evacuated around 20k people it parts of France because it has got so hot, the ground has literally caught on fire. Fires will break out in the UK over the next couple of days, these temps aren't normal - that is why they are record breaking. I'm not saying people shouldn't do stuff if they are comfortable with the risk but playing a game of football that doesn't need to be played and refunded ticket prices to those who don't now want to go, just seems like a risk not worth taking. More on the side of those who have to travel to attend than the players themselves.

We're not having forest fires here too and if we did have whole villages afflicted by fires raging through them I'm sure there would be guidance on travel in those areas. But re: attending a footy match in a built up area - seriously it's that hot that people can't get in their airconditioned cars and drive down? Some might choose not to but it's up to them. If it really is that much of a danger then I'm sure there'll be police blocks on roads and a national clamp down on any sort of travel. I somehow doubt that's going to happen!

[muirinho]

We get 1 or 2 days over 40c per year here, it is absolutely fcuking horrific. Literally walking to the end of the road feels like running a marathon, and that is with a dry heat - add any humidity to it and the air feels like a wall. It is horrible and anyone trying to downgrade it to "it's just summer", can take a seat (not in the shade) and shut it.

Some countries that have those temperatures regularly have built infrastructure to cope i.e. everything is air conned or even moves underground but the key thing is, in countries where it is regularly hotter than 40c, people don't go outside unless they need to. Life shifts later in the day than it does in the UK i.e. dinner is at 10pm not between 5 and 7pm.

But I know for a fact people play football matches in very hot conditions with stadiums far far less capable than ours.

I accept we have a humid heat, which isn't as nice but we're not the only humid country.

We should just face the fact that we are relatively soft and move on. On the flip side we can deal with the cold much better.

We're nowhere near being 'a humid country'. Go outdoors in the hot months in any far east country, and the climate is much worse than this for playing in, and they do still often play at 3 pm too, although usually later.

31C with the sun setting really shouldn't be a big issue at all. It's a friendly, so it'll be half-paced with loads of substititions anyway.

If it was behind closed doors I'd agree - I'm more concerned about the fans - both travelling there (which goes against guidelines not to use public transport) and at the ground itself. It just feels unnecessary

They've made their decisions, and the players will be absolutely fine, but I understand where concerns are coming from

[Millsy]

We get 1 or 2 days over 40c per year here, it is absolutely fcuking horrific. Literally walking to the end of the road feels like running a marathon, and that is with a dry heat - add any humidity to it and the air feels like a wall. It is horrible and anyone trying to downgrade it to "it's just summer", can take a seat (not in the shade) and shut it.

Some countries that have those temperatures regularly have built infrastructure to cope i.e. everything is air conned or even moves underground but the key thing is, in countries where it is regularly hotter than 40c, people don't go outside unless they need to. Life shifts later in the day than it does in the UK i.e. dinner is at 10pm not between 5 and 7pm.

But I know for a fact people play football matches in very hot conditions with stadiums far far less capable than ours.

I accept we have a humid heat, which isn't as nice but we're not the only humid country.

We should just face the fact that we are relatively soft and move on. On the flip side we can deal with the cold much better.

We're nowhere near being 'a humid country'. Go outdoors in the hot months in any far east country, and the climate is much worse than this for playing in, and they do still often play at 3 pm too, although usually later.

31C with the sun setting really shouldn't be a big issue at all. It's a friendly, so it'll be half-paced with loads of substititions anyway.

Yes I was being kind. I've spent summers in south east Asia where the mist in a shower is almost indistinguishable from the surrounding humid air. Life carries on there as you say.

[YorkshireRoyal99]

But I know for a fact people play football matches in very hot conditions with stadiums far far less capable than ours.

I accept we have a humid heat, which isn't as nice but we're not the only humid country.

We should just face the fact that we are relatively soft and move on. On the flip side we can deal with the cold much better.

Just to put things into context - they have evacuated around 20k people it parts of France because it has got so hot, the ground has literally caught on fire. Fires will break out in the UK over the next couple of days, these temps aren't normal - that is why they are record breaking. I'm not saying people shouldn't do stuff if they are comfortable with the risk but playing a game of football that doesn't need to be played and refunded ticket prices to those who don't now want to go, just seems like a risk not worth taking. More on the side of those who have to travel to attend than the players themselves.

We're not having forest fires here too and if we did have whole villages afflicted by fires raging through them I'm sure there would be guidance on travel in those areas. But re: attending a footy match in a built up area - seriously it's that hot that people can't get in their airconditioned cars and drive down? Some might choose not to but it's up to them. If it really is that much of a danger then I'm sure there'll be police blocks on roads and a national clamp down on any sort of travel. I somehow doubt that's going to happen!

I know it's only 2 isolated incidents but, yesterday there was a fire that broke out in the Birmingham region (I believe it was near/on a golf course?) and they also had to suspend flights from Luton airport yesterday for a short amount of time because part of the tarmac had lifted off the runway due to the heat. So the danger is there really, but I can understand both sides.

I don't personally think it's "too hot", but we aren't exactly a country that is necessarily well equipped for temperatures like this, thankfully it's only lasting a couple of days (I think it's meant to be near 30-ish by the weekend as well) rather than weeks like the rest of Europe.

[Hound]

But I know for a fact people play football matches in very hot conditions with stadiums far far less capable than ours.

I accept we have a humid heat, which isn't as nice but we're not the only humid country.

We should just face the fact that we are relatively soft and move on. On the flip side we can deal with the cold much better.

We're nowhere near being 'a humid country'. Go outdoors in the hot months in any far east country, and the climate is much worse than this for playing in, and they do still often play at 3 pm too, although usually later.

31C with the sun setting really shouldn't be a big issue at all. It's a friendly, so it'll be half-paced with loads of substititions anyway.

If it was behind closed doors I'd agree - I'm more concerned about the fans - both travelling there (which goes against guidelines not to use public transport) and at the ground itself. It just feels unnecessary

They've made their decisions, and the players will be absolutely fine, but I understand where concerns are coming from

Yeah that really

Plus I don’t see what benefit travelling over to play a game at half pace and loads of water breaks really gives us that a training game wouldn’t but nevermind

[RG30]

Looking forward to this tonight - new ground and good excuse to come in to an air conditioned office which is only a few miles away

[Nameless]

We're nowhere near being 'a humid country'. Go outdoors in the hot months in any far east country, and the climate is much worse than this for playing in, and they do still often play at 3 pm too, although usually later.

31C with the sun setting really shouldn't be a big issue at all. It's a friendly, so it'll be half-paced with loads of substititions anyway.

If it was behind closed doors I'd agree - I'm more concerned about the fans - both travelling there (which goes against guidelines not to use public transport) and at the ground itself. It just feels unnecessary

They've made their decisions, and the players will be absolutely fine, but I understand where concerns are coming from

Yeah that really

Plus I don’t see what benefit travelling over to play a game at half pace and loads of water breaks really gives us that a training game wouldn’t but nevermind

Not using public transport isn’tabout safety, it’s about the fact there may well be delays and cancellations.
It won’t be dangerous to sit under a roof at 8pm tonight.

[Snowflake Royal]

If it was behind closed doors I'd agree - I'm more concerned about the fans - both travelling there (which goes against guidelines not to use public transport) and at the ground itself. It just feels unnecessary

They've made their decisions, and the players will be absolutely fine, but I understand where concerns are coming from

Yeah that really

Plus I don’t see what benefit travelling over to play a game at half pace and loads of water breaks really gives us that a training game wouldn’t but nevermind

Not using public transport isn’tabout safety, it’s about the fact there may well be delays and cancellations.
It won’t be dangerous to sit under a roof at 8pm tonight.

Standing around waiting for the public transport, could be an issue though. Delays or otherwise.

[Nameless]

Yeah that really

Plus I don’t see what benefit travelling over to play a game at half pace and loads of water breaks really gives us that a training game wouldn’t but nevermind

Not using public transport isn’tabout safety, it’s about the fact there may well be delays and cancellations.
It won’t be dangerous to sit under a roof at 8pm tonight.

Standing around waiting for the public transport, could be an issue though. Delays or otherwise.

Standing in the shade is a possible solution. I guess it needs some kind of government advice to help those unable to either stay at home or take the obvious minor precautions....

[Norfolk Royal]

We get 1 or 2 days over 40c per year here, it is absolutely fcuking horrific. Literally walking to the end of the road feels like running a marathon, and that is with a dry heat - add any humidity to it and the air feels like a wall. It is horrible and anyone trying to downgrade it to "it's just summer", can take a seat (not in the shade) and shut it.

Some countries that have those temperatures regularly have built infrastructure to cope i.e. everything is air conned or even moves underground but the key thing is, in countries where it is regularly hotter than 40c, people don't go outside unless they need to. Life shifts later in the day than it does in the UK i.e. dinner is at 10pm not between 5 and 7pm.

But I know for a fact people play football matches in very hot conditions with stadiums far far less capable than ours.

I accept we have a humid heat, which isn't as nice but we're not the only humid country.

We should just face the fact that we are relatively soft and move on. On the flip side we can deal with the cold much better.

Just to put things into context - they have evacuated around 20k people it parts of France because it has got so hot, the ground has literally caught on fire. Fires will break out in the UK over the next couple of days, these temps aren't normal - that is why they are record breaking. I'm not saying people shouldn't do stuff if they are comfortable with the risk but playing a game of football that doesn't need to be played and refunded ticket prices to those who don't now want to go, just seems like a risk not worth taking. More on the side of those who have to travel to attend than the players themselves.

As it's going to piss down with rain tomorrow I doubt there'll be too many fires.

[Snowflake Royal]

Not using public transport isn’tabout safety, it’s about the fact there may well be delays and cancellations.
It won’t be dangerous to sit under a roof at 8pm tonight.

Standing around waiting for the public transport, could be an issue though. Delays or otherwise.

Standing in the shade is a possible solution. I guess it needs some kind of government advice to help those unable to either stay at home or take the obvious minor precautions....

You've met the General Public right?

[bcubed]

We get 1 or 2 days over 40c per year here, it is absolutely fcuking horrific. Literally walking to the end of the road feels like running a marathon, and that is with a dry heat - add any humidity to it and the air feels like a wall. It is horrible and anyone trying to downgrade it to "it's just summer", can take a seat (not in the shade) and shut it.

Some countries that have those temperatures regularly have built infrastructure to cope i.e. everything is air conned or even moves underground but the key thing is, in countries where it is regularly hotter than 40c, people don't go outside unless they need to. Life shifts later in the day than it does in the UK i.e. dinner is at 10pm not between 5 and 7pm.

But I know for a fact people play football matches in very hot conditions with stadiums far far less capable than ours.

I accept we have a humid heat, which isn't as nice but we're not the only humid country.

We should just face the fact that we are relatively soft and move on. On the flip side we can deal with the cold much better.

Just to put things into context - they have evacuated around 20k people it parts of France because it has got so hot, the ground has literally caught on fire. Fires will break out in the UK over the next couple of days, these temps aren't normal - that is why they are record breaking. I'm not saying people shouldn't do stuff if they are comfortable with the risk but playing a game of football that doesn't need to be played and refunded ticket prices to those who don't now want to go, just seems like a risk not worth taking. More on the side of those who have to travel to attend than the players themselves.

Yep. Fires or not, the temperatures are incredibly extreme and it’s not embarrassing the way we are reacting to it. It’s simple cautious and sensible. We’re not geared up for this sort of heat and neither are we set up for huge amounts of snow. So when it happens it can be a problem. So what. It’s not embarrassing it’s just difficult to manage when it’s so exceptional

[From Despair To Where?]

Err, there's been fires on Saddleworth Moor and half the Peak District has been closed to the public as a safety precaution.

[Hound]

My wfh office feels like it’s about to burst into flames tbh

[Nameless]

Standing around waiting for the public transport, could be an issue though. Delays or otherwise.

Standing in the shade is a possible solution. I guess it needs some kind of government advice to help those unable to either stay at home or take the obvious minor precautions....

You've met the General Public right?

Gonna be a squeeze at Plough Lane if they are all planning to turn up.....

[Hound]

Actually London mayor has just declared a major incident in London due to number of fires there as well

[Hound]

Tonight's #readingfc starting 11 v AFC Wimbledon: Bouzanis, Yiadom, McIntyre, Holmes, Hutchinson, Hendrick, Ejaria, Azeez, Ince, Meite, Joao.

Subs: Lumley, El-Mhanni, Tetek, Guinness-Walker, Hoilett, Fornah, Clarke, Abrefa, Ehibhatiomhan