To be fair, he has started, or come on as a substitute in 6 of the last 7 games. I did not check back any further.Hound wrote:Checked recently and think he’s barely played for Genoa this year and wasn’t a roaring success last year
We did very well to get the deal we did for him if figures are to be believed
Think the money is in installments so hopefully be a little stream of income for a few years
Agree, I thought Puscas was significantly better when paired with another forward. I don't think it was a case of not being good enough for the Championship, just not suited to the league.Hendo wrote:No, I'd probably play them together.Royalwaster wrote:Puscas scores in win over Israel yesterday ... it's strange how he continues to play at international level and in Serie A but just not being good enough for the Championship. A genuine question - if he was still at the club, would you pick him over Sam Smith?
But the Championship was the league. Do you mean not suited to our terrible style of play?YorkshireRoyal99 wrote:Agree, I thought Puscas was significantly better when paired with another forward. I don't think it was a case of not being good enough for the Championship, just not suited to the league.Hendo wrote:No, I'd probably play them together.Royalwaster wrote:Puscas scores in win over Israel yesterday ... it's strange how he continues to play at international level and in Serie A but just not being good enough for the Championship. A genuine question - if he was still at the club, would you pick him over Sam Smith?
As in the physicality of the league, but yes, our style of play rarely helped him either.Royalwaster wrote:But the Championship was the league. Do you mean not suited to our terrible style of play?YorkshireRoyal99 wrote:Agree, I thought Puscas was significantly better when paired with another forward. I don't think it was a case of not being good enough for the Championship, just not suited to the league.Hendo wrote:
No, I'd probably play them together.
IndeedBrogue wrote:Let’s be honest you don’t come through an academy like inter Milan's and play regularly for their b team unless there is some sort of raw talent there. Of course raw talent is only one of a number of metrics that a player needs to be a successful footballer. We all know that. But for whatever reason he didn’t make it here. And yes, he doesn’t appear to be pulling up any trees at Genoa. It doesn’t mean he’s shit though, he still regularly gets in the Romania team who are 48th in the world rankings - and has a fairly decent (ish) record for them. Hell, his first season here he scored he scored 14 in 42 games which is pretty decent in your first season in a new league and different country, most strikers aim for around a 1 in 3 average, one in 2 strikers are like gold dust. But like all players, they just need to find a system that suits them, and a manager who knows how to use them. This goes for any player around the world. I’m sure Sergio Aguero would have been shit for us too if we had used him as a lone striker hitting long balls into his throat all the time.
If he'd stayed, we'd have probably ruined him.Ascotexgunner wrote:Osho....one that got away? Been impressive for Luton so far.
Very true, we do seem to be good at doing that.WestYorksRoyal wrote:If he'd stayed, we'd have probably ruined him.Ascotexgunner wrote:Osho....one that got away? Been impressive for Luton so far.
Vydra was terrible here amd then couldn't stop scoring when he leftURZZZZ wrote:IndeedBrogue wrote:Let’s be honest you don’t come through an academy like inter Milan's and play regularly for their b team unless there is some sort of raw talent there. Of course raw talent is only one of a number of metrics that a player needs to be a successful footballer. We all know that. But for whatever reason he didn’t make it here. And yes, he doesn’t appear to be pulling up any trees at Genoa. It doesn’t mean he’s shit though, he still regularly gets in the Romania team who are 48th in the world rankings - and has a fairly decent (ish) record for them. Hell, his first season here he scored he scored 14 in 42 games which is pretty decent in your first season in a new league and different country, most strikers aim for around a 1 in 3 average, one in 2 strikers are like gold dust. But like all players, they just need to find a system that suits them, and a manager who knows how to use them. This goes for any player around the world. I’m sure Sergio Aguero would have been shit for us too if we had used him as a lone striker hitting long balls into his throat all the time.
Too many strikers are prolific elsewhere and flatter to deceive here. Can’t be a coincidence
That's because some idiot played him wide left here to start and ruined his fragile confidence.Rax wrote:Vydra was terrible here amd then couldn't stop scoring when he leftURZZZZ wrote:IndeedBrogue wrote:Let’s be honest you don’t come through an academy like inter Milan's and play regularly for their b team unless there is some sort of raw talent there. Of course raw talent is only one of a number of metrics that a player needs to be a successful footballer. We all know that. But for whatever reason he didn’t make it here. And yes, he doesn’t appear to be pulling up any trees at Genoa. It doesn’t mean he’s shit though, he still regularly gets in the Romania team who are 48th in the world rankings - and has a fairly decent (ish) record for them. Hell, his first season here he scored he scored 14 in 42 games which is pretty decent in your first season in a new league and different country, most strikers aim for around a 1 in 3 average, one in 2 strikers are like gold dust. But like all players, they just need to find a system that suits them, and a manager who knows how to use them. This goes for any player around the world. I’m sure Sergio Aguero would have been shit for us too if we had used him as a lone striker hitting long balls into his throat all the time.
Too many strikers are prolific elsewhere and flatter to deceive here. Can’t be a coincidence
He scored nine in 36 games for us, then moved to Derby and scored five in 36 in the first season. In the following season he hit a purple patch and scored 22 in 44, but then in the following four seasons for Burnley (albeit in a higher league) he never scored more than six in one season, finishing with 12 from 97 games. In that one good season for Derby, he scored more than a fifth of his career total of goals. His season with us was far more representative of his average.Rax wrote:Vydra was terrible here amd then couldn't stop scoring when he leftURZZZZ wrote:IndeedBrogue wrote:Let’s be honest you don’t come through an academy like inter Milan's and play regularly for their b team unless there is some sort of raw talent there. Of course raw talent is only one of a number of metrics that a player needs to be a successful footballer. We all know that. But for whatever reason he didn’t make it here. And yes, he doesn’t appear to be pulling up any trees at Genoa. It doesn’t mean he’s shit though, he still regularly gets in the Romania team who are 48th in the world rankings - and has a fairly decent (ish) record for them. Hell, his first season here he scored he scored 14 in 42 games which is pretty decent in your first season in a new league and different country, most strikers aim for around a 1 in 3 average, one in 2 strikers are like gold dust. But like all players, they just need to find a system that suits them, and a manager who knows how to use them. This goes for any player around the world. I’m sure Sergio Aguero would have been shit for us too if we had used him as a lone striker hitting long balls into his throat all the time.
Too many strikers are prolific elsewhere and flatter to deceive here. Can’t be a coincidence
I remember my initial thought being - we've paid how much for a loan player? - he better have a fcuking incredible seasonHendo wrote:I can remember being so freaking excited when we signed Vydra.
Didn't care at the time, yes it was a lot of money but at the time of signing, everything pointed towards it being an absolute no-brainer. Before he came to us, he was one of the best Championship strikers going.Stranded wrote:I remember my initial thought being - we've paid how much for a loan player? - he better have a fcuking incredible seasonHendo wrote:I can remember being so freaking excited when we signed Vydra.
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