Division one things to forward to……..

[Royal_jimmy]

Ipswich look to be coming back up after a few painful seasons in League One and are playing some lovely stuff. It’s not all doom and gloom if you get relegated.

If we go down, they are probably the model for us - 3 solid but uninspiring seasons finishing 11th, 9th and 11th but decent recruitment throughout that time leading to an almost certain promotion this time round.

This 100% but not sure we'd execute as well as they have. Be interesting to see if their players can step up but I think they will do well (top half) next year

[Snowflake Royal]

Don’t think Holmes will leave. The other 3 probably

It’s theoretical of course but they are all contracted. We could keep them if we want.

Just highlighting The idea of needing 10+ quality additions just isn’t the case. If we choose to get rid of 6-7 then yeah, but that’s a choice

Forgot also Mbengue, Abrefa, Clarke(s) who have also appeared and looked ok at champ level. Carson sounds handy as well and has some experience

To have a competitive squad on Div1 all we’d really need to do is extend some youth team contracts.

If stranded is correct and I’m sure he is about the 3 year contract thing, then actually keeping Ejaria, Sarr, Ince, Puscas, Bouzanis, Holmes, McIntyre, Yiadom, Jehmari C, Camara?, actually seems more attractive as well

Agree to disagree then really here I think, but that's just me.

I think those choices (considering Puscas' it out of our hands I believe as it's a mandatory clause if Genoa are promoted?) will form part of the reason as to why we will need double figures worth of players in the summer, and quality players at that if we want to be anywhere near the top of L1 next season.

Mbengue I could imagine would chance his arm at getting a move to a Championship club and all these youngsters sounds great on paper but how many of them are actually that good? Camara was hooked at half time on Saturday, Abrefa has looked ok but not outstanding, Jahmari Clarke had his 2 goals at Birmingham and little else since etc. I know what you're saying about competitive, although I'm still not even sure about that and I'd want to be more than competitive in League One next season.

Don’t think that suggested team is any worse than what the likes of Sheff weds and Barnsley have run with this season

Obvs if we need a decent manager. Also shifting Puscas and replacing with a striker who knows the division would help. I don’t think the buy clause is mandatory for Genoa - be nice if it was

Camara and Abrefa have had good games against champ opposition. They should be ok at least for a regular bench spot in the champ. Same goes for Ehib, John Clarke, Craig

YR arguing that team isn’t good enough for League One and would need double figure signings while arguing we could sign a competitive Championship squad with fewer signings more easily from the same starting point has to be one of the funniest things I've seen on here in ages.

[Royal_jimmy]

Bar the back 4, that's still significantly different to the side we've been playing in most weeks this season. I know they are all contracted but I'd anticipate we'd be looking for a better goalkeeper than Bouzanis, Holmes and Ince would be likely to leave, as would Ejaria and Puscas as well.

Don’t think Holmes will leave. The other 3 probably

It’s theoretical of course but they are all contracted. We could keep them if we want.

Just highlighting The idea of needing 10+ quality additions just isn’t the case. If we choose to get rid of 6-7 then yeah, but that’s a choice

Forgot also Mbengue, Abrefa, Clarke(s) who have also appeared and looked ok at champ level. Carson sounds handy as well and has some experience

To have a competitive squad on Div1 all we’d really need to do is extend some youth team contracts.

If stranded is correct and I’m sure he is about the 3 year contract thing, then actually keeping Ejaria, Sarr, Ince, Puscas, Bouzanis, Holmes, McIntyre, Yiadom, Jehmari C, Camara?, actually seems more attractive as well

Agree to disagree then really here I think, but that's just me.

I think those choices (considering Puscas' it out of our hands I believe as it's a mandatory clause if Genoa are promoted?) will form part of the reason as to why we will need double figures worth of players in the summer, and quality players at that if we want to be anywhere near the top of L1 next season.

Mbengue I could imagine would chance his arm at getting a move to a Championship club and all these youngsters sounds great on paper but how many of them are actually that good? Camara was hooked at half time on Saturday, Abrefa has looked ok but not outstanding, Jahmari Clarke had his 2 goals at Birmingham and little else since etc. I know what you're saying about competitive, although I'm still not even sure about that and I'd want to be more than competitive in League One next season.

Happy with Clarke, Camara, Ehib and CBC as squad players. Abrefa I'd like to see play more but we won't drop Yiadom as captain sadly.

[Royal_jimmy]

Although it scares the daylights out of me, having a turnover of players might not be a bad thing. It removes the players who have a losing mentality from the club (whatever league we're in). If we drop them we can use the youngsters to fill the squad, we'll still need 7-8 signings though. I hope we are clever with loan signings and not bringing in anyone unless they're genuinely better than what we have. We'll need to build a team and we can't build a side to get us out of L1 just on loans.

[Orion1871]

Although it scares the daylights out of me, having a turnover of players might not be a bad thing. It removes the players who have a losing mentality from the club (whatever league we're in). If we drop them we can use the youngsters to fill the squad, we'll still need 7-8 signings though. I hope we are clever with loan signings and not bringing in anyone unless they're genuinely better than what we have. We'll need to build a team and we can't build a side to get us out of L1 just on loans.

We have had a huge turn over of players for most recent summers. All we seem to end up with more losers to replace the losers we've just got rid of.

[Royal_jimmy]

If the top 3 go up from league one, the bottom 4 go down and the top 4 of league 2 get promoted we'd actually have far fewer really long away trips.

Lots of medium distance games like Exeter, Port Vale, Shrewsbury, Peterborough, Derby and Burton.

Stevenage is an hour away, as is Bristol Rovers, Cheltenham, Pompey, MK Dons, Wycombe and Oxford are even nearer. Northampton is 90 minutes. Orient and Charlton are London ones.

I guess that's something to look forward to as this season has been full of depressingly long away trips, my car is literally panting from the miles I've covered to the likes of Blackpool, Hull and Sunderland. I would expect us to sell out quite a lot of away games. Especially if we were to start the season well

[YorkshireRoyal99]

Agree to disagree then really here I think, but that's just me.

I think those choices (considering Puscas' it out of our hands I believe as it's a mandatory clause if Genoa are promoted?) will form part of the reason as to why we will need double figures worth of players in the summer, and quality players at that if we want to be anywhere near the top of L1 next season.

Mbengue I could imagine would chance his arm at getting a move to a Championship club and all these youngsters sounds great on paper but how many of them are actually that good? Camara was hooked at half time on Saturday, Abrefa has looked ok but not outstanding, Jahmari Clarke had his 2 goals at Birmingham and little else since etc. I know what you're saying about competitive, although I'm still not even sure about that and I'd want to be more than competitive in League One next season.

Don’t think that suggested team is any worse than what the likes of Sheff weds and Barnsley have run with this season

Obvs if we need a decent manager. Also shifting Puscas and replacing with a striker who knows the division would help. I don’t think the buy clause is mandatory for Genoa - be nice if it was

Camara and Abrefa have had good games against champ opposition. They should be ok at least for a regular bench spot in the champ. Same goes for Ehib, John Clarke, Craig

YR arguing that team isn’t good enough for League One and would need double figure signings while arguing we could sign a competitive Championship squad with fewer signings more easily from the same starting point has to be one of the funniest things I've seen on here in ages.

I've never said we'd need less signings for either, what I have said is that it would be easier to build a squad to survive in the Championship rather than get promoted from League One. Let's not muddy the waters.

[YorkshireRoyal99]

Don’t think Holmes will leave. The other 3 probably

It’s theoretical of course but they are all contracted. We could keep them if we want.

Just highlighting The idea of needing 10+ quality additions just isn’t the case. If we choose to get rid of 6-7 then yeah, but that’s a choice

Forgot also Mbengue, Abrefa, Clarke(s) who have also appeared and looked ok at champ level. Carson sounds handy as well and has some experience

To have a competitive squad on Div1 all we’d really need to do is extend some youth team contracts.

If stranded is correct and I’m sure he is about the 3 year contract thing, then actually keeping Ejaria, Sarr, Ince, Puscas, Bouzanis, Holmes, McIntyre, Yiadom, Jehmari C, Camara?, actually seems more attractive as well

Agree to disagree then really here I think, but that's just me.

I think those choices (considering Puscas' it out of our hands I believe as it's a mandatory clause if Genoa are promoted?) will form part of the reason as to why we will need double figures worth of players in the summer, and quality players at that if we want to be anywhere near the top of L1 next season.

Mbengue I could imagine would chance his arm at getting a move to a Championship club and all these youngsters sounds great on paper but how many of them are actually that good? Camara was hooked at half time on Saturday, Abrefa has looked ok but not outstanding, Jahmari Clarke had his 2 goals at Birmingham and little else since etc. I know what you're saying about competitive, although I'm still not even sure about that and I'd want to be more than competitive in League One next season.

Happy with Clarke, Camara, Ehib and CBC as squad players. Abrefa I'd like to see play more but we won't drop Yiadom as captain sadly.

Assuming you mean Jahmari Clarke? If that's the case, I'd probably rather him go out on loan and get a full season somewhere rather than be well down the pecking order in our first team. I think he's behind Kelvin E personally and we will likely sign another senior striker with Carroll as well. Would make more sense to have a loan at someone in League Two rather than be 4th choice here.

Maybe even the same case with CBC. Loan a goalkeeper/sign someone for a season, Bouzanis as back up and then have CBC have a season-long loan somewhere to get some experience, unless we feel CBC is good enough to potentially start next season which I doubt at this point.

Camara, Kelvin E and Abrefa I'd be happy enough to use, probably look to try and get the latter in our side somewhere.

[Hound]

Ipswich look to be coming back up after a few painful seasons in League One and are playing some lovely stuff. It’s not all doom and gloom if you get relegated.

If we go down, they are probably the model for us - 3 solid but uninspiring seasons finishing 11th, 9th and 11th but decent recruitment throughout that time leading to an almost certain promotion this time round.

This 100% but not sure we'd execute as well as they have. Be interesting to see if their players can step up but I think they will do well (top half) next year

I’m not sure the Ipswich fans exactly enjoyed those 3 years and they could well be rubbish when they come back up

[Hound]

Some good reading on Bowen’s comments tonight on Twitter

He does seem to have the right idea. Sounds like he did want to sack Ince earlier. Keen to use more of the youth. Genoa obligation to buy Puscas if they go up. Calls out Senga as a big prospect. Sounds like tbe crappy business plan was always doomed to fail

Again it makes me feel fairly confident for the future in Div1 if it happens

[TiagoIlori]

If we go down, they are probably the model for us - 3 solid but uninspiring seasons finishing 11th, 9th and 11th but decent recruitment throughout that time leading to an almost certain promotion this time round.

This 100% but not sure we'd execute as well as they have. Be interesting to see if their players can step up but I think they will do well (top half) next year

I’m not sure the Ipswich fans exactly enjoyed those 3 years and they could well be rubbish when they come back up

A lot of them are insisting it’s been one of their favourite seasons in decades tbf. Those sort of memories don’t go away in a hurry.

[Royal_jimmy]

Some good reading on Bowen’s comments tonight on Twitter

He does seem to have the right idea. Sounds like he did want to sack Ince earlier. Keen to use more of the youth. Genoa obligation to buy Puscas if they go up. Calls out Senga as a big prospect. Sounds like tbe crappy business plan was always doomed to fail

Again it makes me feel fairly confident for the future in Div1 if it happens

I've always liked Bowen as someone to have upstairs. He really could make a name for himself if he turns us around. I hope he sticks around

[Royal_jimmy]

This 100% but not sure we'd execute as well as they have. Be interesting to see if their players can step up but I think they will do well (top half) next year

I’m not sure the Ipswich fans exactly enjoyed those 3 years and they could well be rubbish when they come back up

A lot of them are insisting it’s been one of their favourite seasons in decades tbf. Those sort of memories don’t go away in a hurry.

But how many bad years have they had prior to this year? 14 years?

[TiagoIlori]

I’m not sure the Ipswich fans exactly enjoyed those 3 years and they could well be rubbish when they come back up

A lot of them are insisting it’s been one of their favourite seasons in decades tbf. Those sort of memories don’t go away in a hurry.

But how many bad years have they had prior to this year? 14 years?

Not that much longer than we’ve had either way.

[Snowflake Royal]

A lot of them are insisting it’s been one of their favourite seasons in decades tbf. Those sort of memories don’t go away in a hurry.

But how many bad years have they had prior to this year? 14 years?

Not that much longer than we’ve had either way.

Most of the Championship ones were midtable, so much better than ours.

[Hound]

This 100% but not sure we'd execute as well as they have. Be interesting to see if their players can step up but I think they will do well (top half) next year

I’m not sure the Ipswich fans exactly enjoyed those 3 years and they could well be rubbish when they come back up

A lot of them are insisting it’s been one of their favourite seasons in decades tbf. Those sort of memories don’t go away in a hurry.

This one sure. The previous 3 we’re prob not so good

[Hound]

Apparently we missed the business plan by about 12m. That’s actually quite funny, how the hell were we ever going to recoup that much?

[Royal_jimmy]

Apparently we missed the business plan by about 12m. That’s actually quite funny, how the hell were we ever going to recoup that much?

Silly isn't it.

I think it we sold the EFL a lie to save our skin last season by losing 12 points. Mind you it's backfiring now if we go down.

[YorkshireRoyal99]

Apparently we missed the business plan by about 12m. That’s actually quite funny, how the hell were we ever going to recoup that much?

Silly isn't it.

I think it we sold the EFL a lie to save our skin last season by losing 12 points. Mind you it's backfiring now if we go down.

Yeah it seems like the club wanted to limit the punishment across a couple of seasons to give us the best possible chance of survival in each season, rather than something we were always likely to not recover from.

[Hound]

Guess we’ll never know but would they have given us 12 points considering they gave Derby 9?

We prob could have survived with 9 at a push

With all the restrictions AND a likely 6 point penalty was always going to be a massive ask this year