MATCHWATCH : Preston North End (a)

[Gunny Fishcake]

Ince after game on Radio Berks....." The boys are fighting for their lives"

If that's fighting for their lives, god help them

The team and club is totally shot from top to bottom

Going down and a total clear out of off all the crap and historical gross negligence that got us where we are today may not be a bad thing

We've not reached rock bottom yet but we're very close

[Hound]

This is just delusional. On what basis do you rate them as 'not a bad side'? Which players in our squad have proven themselves as decent quality championship players elsewhere? If they're so good then why weren't we able to sell any of them despite that being a vital goal in our business plan?

We’re a bottom 5 side with a bottom 5 manager. We’re where I’d expect us to be

The second half of that first sentence is correct. The first is very much up for debate.

Who in our side would any other team in the division genuinely want? No one came in for any of them in the summer or the Jan window

a couple of teams may take a few of our young players off our hands for their potential. And maybe T Ince but he was hardly in demand at Stoke

[Uke]

Ince now claiming the six points was a surprise at the end of the season

How many weeks had we known it could come?

[retro royal]

I feel sorry for the players. Ince keeps picking these unbalanced teams that lack mobility. In particular, if you're going to play three at the back, at least two of them have to be reasonably quick. Leaving out the most athletic option (Mbengue), and playing Sarr, Dann and Holmes together was just hopeless - they all kept dropping deep, so the 6-yard box was packed while Preston had acres of space around the penalty spot.

Was just about to say about this, Yiadom is useless at right/wing back I'd throw him in as one of the CB and drop Sarr (he can't head, passing is dreadful and reads the game bad)

[Millsy]

Ince now claiming the six points was a surprise at the end of the season

How many weeks had we known it could come?

And surely he would've known it's a possibility at the beginning of the season. Yet decided to harp on about relegation when comfortably in the playoff spots.

[Millsy]

The end of that interview was painful. Reminds of that Rodgers interview...

[Uke]

Ince now claiming the six points was a surprise at the end of the season

How many weeks had we known it could come?

And surely he would've known it's a possibility at the beginning of the season. Yet decided to harp on about relegation when comfortably in the playoff spots.

He’s to stupid to plan for contingencies

[retro royal]

If Ince made subs earlier maybe players wouldn't get injured so often FFS

[genome]

Dellor didn't challenge him nearly enough

[YorkshireRoyal99]

We’re a bottom 5 side with a bottom 5 manager. We’re where I’d expect us to be

The second half of that first sentence is correct. The first is very much up for debate.

Who in our side would any other team in the division genuinely want? No one came in for any of them in the summer or the Jan window

a couple of teams may take a few of our young players off our hands for their potential. And maybe T Ince but he was hardly in demand at Stoke

As of next season (as in players contracted), I think the only players I could see moving to other Championship sides would be T.Ince and Holmes probably and they'd do ok at mid table/bottom half sides like Bristol City.

[leon]

We’re a bottom 5 side with a bottom 5 manager. We’re where I’d expect us to be

The second half of that first sentence is correct. The first is very much up for debate.

Who in our side would any other team in the division genuinely want? No one came in for any of them in the summer or the Jan window

a couple of teams may take a few of our young players off our hands for their potential. And maybe T Ince but he was hardly in demand at Stoke

I’m not saying we should be getting promoted. But we have more than enough.

But you think our team is shit that no one wants?

Really?

[RoyalBlue]

We’re a bottom 5 side with a bottom 5 manager. We’re where I’d expect us to be

The second half of that first sentence is correct. The first is very much up for debate.

Who in our side would any other team in the division genuinely want? No one came in for any of them in the summer or the Jan window

a couple of teams may take a few of our young players off our hands for their potential. And maybe T Ince but he was hardly in demand at Stoke

That's the ludicrous type of thing Ince comes out with. You can't be sure that no one came in for any players. Despite the risk of a points deduction the club might have decided to hold onto them. A large number of our players would get into the teams/squads of teams teams in our league. Lumley, Joao, Holmes, McIntyre, Yiadom, Hendrick, Carroll, Azeez, Fornah, T Ince, Ejaria, Meite, Rahman....... Yes, some are injured, some are loanees but they are part of our squad.

[RoyalBlue]

Dellor didn't challenge him nearly enough

He rarely does unless Ady's acting as his minder.

[JR]

All started from the dickhead who passed back to Lumley when we were attacking.

I agree with this - was just watching for a few minutes and saw him kick the ball away at a throw-in and do that ridiculous pass back. A mentality that invited a last minute goal.

[Uke]

The second half of that first sentence is correct. The first is very much up for debate.

Who in our side would any other team in the division genuinely want? No one came in for any of them in the summer or the Jan window

a couple of teams may take a few of our young players off our hands for their potential. And maybe T Ince but he was hardly in demand at Stoke

That's the ludicrous type of thing Ince comes out with. You can't be sure that no one came in for any players. Despite the risk of a points deduction the club might have decided to hold onto them. A large number of our players would get into the teams/squads of teams teams in our league. Lumley, Joao, Holmes, McIntyre, Yiadom, Hendrick, Carroll, Azeez, Fornah, T Ince, Ejaria, Meite, Rahman....... Yes, some are injured, some are loanees but they are part of our squad.

They’ll all be available in next season’s fire sale in January

[NathStPaul]

We’re a bottom 5 side with a bottom 5 manager. We’re where I’d expect us to be

The second half of that first sentence is correct. The first is very much up for debate.

Who in our side would any other team in the division genuinely want? No one came in for any of them in the summer or the Jan window

a couple of teams may take a few of our young players off our hands for their potential. And maybe T Ince but he was hardly in demand at Stoke

This doesn't stack up when you look at the likes of Luton, Preston and Millwall performing very well. On face value our squad is no better or worse than any of those three clubs. Difference is they are well run and well managed football clubs and we are a basket case behind the scenes and managed by Paul Ince who got the job because he was cheap and friendly with the ownership circle.

[leon]

The second half of that first sentence is correct. The first is very much up for debate.

Who in our side would any other team in the division genuinely want? No one came in for any of them in the summer or the Jan window

a couple of teams may take a few of our young players off our hands for their potential. And maybe T Ince but he was hardly in demand at Stoke

This doesn't stack up when you look at the likes of Luton, Preston and Millwall performing very well. On face value our squad is no better or worse than any of those three clubs. Difference is they are well run and well managed football clubs and we are a basket case behind the scenes and managed by Paul Ince who got the job because he was cheap and friendly with the ownership circle.

This.

[Snowflake Royal]

It’s not about quality it’s about organisation and planning . It’s about players knowing what to do and why they’re doing it.

This team hasn’t got a oxf*rd clue. They should because they actually aren’t a bad side. A half decent manager would get them playing a lot lot better than this twat has.

This is just delusional. On what basis do you rate them as 'not a bad side'? Which players in our squad have proven themselves as decent quality championship players elsewhere? If they're so good then why weren't we able to sell any of them despite that being a vital goal in our business plan?

We bet the farm on selling Puscas and didn't even try with anyone else. Bowen actively said there was no point trying to sell because it wouldn't help.

They're not great, but they're better than bottom 5. With or without points deduction. We've been hamstrung by a points deduction and a useless negative manager constantly telling the players they're shit and getting them to play abysmal hoofball in a shit shapes and combinations that don't work.

[Orion1871]

The second half of that first sentence is correct. The first is very much up for debate.

Who in our side would any other team in the division genuinely want? No one came in for any of them in the summer or the Jan window

a couple of teams may take a few of our young players off our hands for their potential. And maybe T Ince but he was hardly in demand at Stoke

This doesn't stack up when you look at the likes of Luton, Preston and Millwall performing very well. On face value our squad is no better or worse than any of those three clubs. Difference is they are well run and well managed football clubs and we are a basket case behind the scenes and managed by Paul Ince who got the job because he was cheap and friendly with the ownership circle.

You know you're a basket case when Peter Ridsdale runs a club better than you.

[Snowflake Royal]

It’s not about quality it’s about organisation and planning . It’s about players knowing what to do and why they’re doing it.

This team hasn’t got a oxf*rd clue. They should because they actually aren’t a bad side. A half decent manager would get them playing a lot lot better than this twat has.

It's not that we don't have a plan or aren't organised though. We aren't a secret, we know exactly what we will get each week, so do the opposition and that's working against us. It does come down to a lack of quality.

Players like Swift, Joao, Meite etc have been digging us out each season, Meite and Joao are a shadow of themselves (although the latter did ok today) which comes down to how we play. But it's those brilliant moments from the odd high quality players we've had that have pulled us out of it in the end.

The teams with the lowest amount of quality go down, usually through a combination of factors. Inept management and low quality players usually being two of the main reasons why.

Hoof it at Carroll is not a plan, and there isn't an ounce of organisation on the pitch.