Coronavirus outbreak

[Jagermesiter1871]

Is there any scientific evidence on how safe eating takeaway food is? I assume the biggest risk is packaging and delivery driver.

[Snowball]

Does anyone think its comparable to SARS? Part of the issue with SARs what that it was so limited in spread that it barely registered on the conscious of Europe.

A few days ago WWII etc was saying we'd soon forget this "just like we did SARS"

I assume they were just trying to get a rise out of you. This has already had huge world wide consequences whilst SARs barely registered for most of the world even at its peak.

Swine flu is perhaps more comparable and looking at the death figures I'm surprised how quickly that was forgotten about.

Nah, people wouldn't do that... (Cough)

The latest death figures 14,366 mean that CV-19 Deaths are 18.66 times SARS

[krapmle]

but still a 100,000 behind the amount of flu deaths this winter. Nobody cares about flu.
And next year flu will come back again as it did last year and claim hundreds of thousands more.

Why do governments ignore that?
Why do we find that acceptable?

[Jagermesiter1871]

Is there any scientific evidence on how safe eating takeaway food is? I assume the biggest risk is packaging and delivery driver.

Don't know if it answers my question but reports McDonalds are shutting all UK stores from tomorrow indefinitely. Surely this is huge?

[tidus_mi2]

Is there any scientific evidence on how safe eating takeaway food is? I assume the biggest risk is packaging and delivery driver.

Don't know if it answers my question but reports McDonalds are shutting all UK stores from tomorrow indefinitely. Surely this is huge?

It appears to be in response to not being able to properly enforce social distancing despite their best efforts. Probably inevitable really.

[Snowball]

Is there any scientific evidence on how safe eating takeaway food is? I assume the biggest risk is packaging and delivery driver.

Don't know if it answers my question but reports McDonalds are shutting all UK stores from tomorrow indefinitely. Surely this is huge?

You mean it's a BIG Mac?

[Jagermesiter1871]

Is there any scientific evidence on how safe eating takeaway food is? I assume the biggest risk is packaging and delivery driver.

Don't know if it answers my question but reports McDonalds are shutting all UK stores from tomorrow indefinitely. Surely this is huge?

It appears to be in response to not being able to properly enforce social distancing despite their best efforts. Probably inevitable really.

How hard is it to shut the inside and do drive through only properly? I went and got a Donalds breakfast today and they managed to make the drive thru as unsocial distancey as possible. They had staff taking orders in the drive through lane instead of using the machine as normal ffs.

[Lower West]

Don't know if it answers my question but reports McDonalds are shutting all UK stores from tomorrow indefinitely. Surely this is huge?

It appears to be in response to not being able to properly enforce social distancing despite their best efforts. Probably inevitable really.

How hard is it to shut the inside and do drive through only properly? I went and got a Donalds breakfast today and they managed to make the drive thru as unsocial distancey as possible. They had staff taking orders in the drive through lane instead of using the machine as normal ffs.

All outlets are being closed. No longer any need to fret.

[Reading4eva]

We need a full lockdown NOW with only big supermarkets (probably include CoOp and Iceland) open.

The amount of fcking idiots who ventured down to Bournemouth and Brighton is ridiculous. Here is how it works for the air headed tw@ts.

One person positive unknowingly travels, passes it through not social distancing to another 10 maybe 100. They then pass it to all their friends, relatives who pass it around again. Yes well done you morons you've spread it and killed a couple of 100 for your own selfish day at the beach.

Get the army in, enforce this and let's get rid of this illness now. Oh and Sainsburys, Tesco, Asda dont let masses of people in you are compromising your staffs health

[krapmle]

state of play:

flu deaths this winter (so far) = 109,000 (no lock down, no panic and happens every year)
Corona virus deaths (so far) = 14,700 (lock down, massive panic, destroying world economy, one off event)

[CountryRoyal]

state of play:

flu deaths this winter (so far) = 109,000 (no lock down, no panic and happens every year)
Corona virus deaths (so far) = 14,700 (lock down, massive panic, destroying world economy, one off event)

+1

Not worth the recession that’s coming, people are stupid.

[Reading4eva]

You cant compare it to flu. I did at first, I didnt understand. If someone who has underlying health conditions gets this its curtains whatever their age.

I'm pretty sure no 18 year old has died from a bout of the flu.

I've never had flu but I'm shitscared of this thing. Seeing as I have a heart scan for a problem that might be there which was scheduled for 6th April (can say that probably isnt happening) I may get one of these dreaded letters which says I wont be seeing anything till June

[Old Man Andrews]

You cant compare it to flu. I did at first, I didnt understand. If someone who has underlying health conditions gets this its curtains whatever their age.

I'm pretty sure no 18 year old has died from a bout of the flu.

I've never had flu but I'm shitscared of this thing. Seeing as I have a heart scan for a problem that might be there which was scheduled for 6th April (can say that probably isnt happening) I may get one of these dreaded letters which says I wont be seeing anything till June

Do you think Eddie Howe will leave Bournemouth at the end of the season?

[Reading4eva]

You cant compare it to flu. I did at first, I didnt understand. If someone who has underlying health conditions gets this its curtains whatever their age.

I'm pretty sure no 18 year old has died from a bout of the flu.

I've never had flu but I'm shitscared of this thing. Seeing as I have a heart scan for a problem that might be there which was scheduled for 6th April (can say that probably isnt happening) I may get one of these dreaded letters which says I wont be seeing anything till June

Do you think Eddie Howe will leave Bournemouth at the end of the season?

Grow up you dick

[Sutekh]

How are funerals likely to be treated during all this? I presume they would just be limited to closest family, undertakers plus the vicar/celebrant?

[Snowball]

state of play:

flu deaths this winter (so far) = 109,000 (no lock down, no panic and happens every year)
Corona virus deaths (so far) = 14,700 (lock down, massive panic, destroying world economy, one off event)

You are showing an incredible degree of naïveté

Seasonal Flu

We have been in constant battles with the regular mutations of seasonal flu,
but every year more and more people grow immunity to one strain and
partial immunity to other strains. Yes, "Flu" is a matter of fact, something
we don't think about too much, and it is one of the things that can kill us.

BUT

So far there is no vaccine, no herd immunity, no partial immunity, for Covid-19



Second,

We have proven, trusted vaccines for the latest seasonal flu viruses.

We are likely to wait another 15-18 months for a safe, tested vaccine for Covid-19



Third

Seasonal flu is ten times (at least) less deadly than Covid-19

Fourth

Seasonal flu is harder to transmit. Covid-19 is spreading rapidly.
Saturday and Sunday there were 61,000 new KNOWN cases


I ask you again, knowing how US, UK, Japan, South Korea, Germany, Italy, France, Spain, China, South Korea, Australia, Canada - basically most of the world governments are solidly capitalists, built on and built for MAKING MONEY, why do you think (a) They are throwing money at this disease and (b) closing shops, pubs, cafes, restaurants (c) cutting transport to the bare bones (d) closing borders, stopping a massive percentage of flights, losing airlines, travel agents, creating bankruptcies etc etc

They do it because every world leader, every government is stupid and panicking? NO.

They do it because the experts are telling them this is the biggest epidemic, sorry pandemic since the 1918 so-called Spanish Flu.

The numbers are not showing the slightest sign of slowing down.

They are still rising by more and more each day.

Last Sunday the non-China rise was 6,625
The average for the last 4 days is 29,421, 4.44 times 6,625

06,625 Sunday
17,690 Monday
15,262 Tuesday
18,255 Wednesday
27,297 Thursday
29,438 Friday
32,897 Saturday
28,051 Sunday


That's a four-and-a-half-fold increase in one week.

What if the increase increases this week?

Italy 30 days ago had its first death.

They now have 5,476 (with probably 500+ more today).

That is already an average of 189 deaths a day excluding today's numbers.

It will probably get worse before it gets better,
doctors and nurses are dying, hospitals are bursting at the seams

[Old Man Andrews]

I thought people were joking about Snowball and his stats in this thread......

Dear lord.

[Snowball]

I thought people were joking about Snowball and his stats in this thread......

Dear lord.

This is the perfect case for stats. Stats are facts. In yer face facts.

About a million times better than people bitching that every government
on the planet has gone mad (but they know better)

[Hound]

Is it possible to disable the font size feature for Snowball? Bloody hell man, stop using it

And those death rate stats are utterly pointless being as it takes no account of the many people who have had it, recovered, and not been tested. Its pretty much standard thinking its around 1%. And those stats are massively skewed for anyone over 60 or with underlying health issues.

Oh and this clearly isnt just flu or in anyway comparable either. Its going to be a huge health issue for ours and every other country. Probably until we do have some immunity, be that a vaccine (very optimistic) or eventually herd immunity

[Snowball]

The death rate stats for confirmed cases are fine.

Nobody is suggesting these are the OVERALL death-rates and the best estimates for that ATM are 1%

but 1% of UK IS 660,000

What’s 1% of 7.3 billion?