The Non - League thread

[Royal Rother]

No worries OMA, we like to be a bit pedantic ‘round these ‘ere parts.

[Hoop Blah]

I have no proof of this but I think there were team selection issues with Tallentire and a big row after the last game of last season which resulted in the split.

Interesting, it certainly seemed to be an odd call at the time seeing that Bracknell had won 9 of their first 10 games of the season before losing at Thatcham in what turned out to be Tallentire's last game.

Having a big row at the end of last season, especially over team selection if I've understood you correctly, would seem equally odd as they won 3 cup finals at the end of that season.

[Old Man Andrews]

I have no proof of this but I think there were team selection issues with Tallentire and a big row after the last game of last season which resulted in the split.

Interesting, it certainly seemed to be an odd call at the time seeing that Bracknell had won 9 of their first 10 games of the season before losing at Thatcham in what turned out to be Tallentire's last game.

Having a big row at the end of last season, especially over team selection if I've understood you correctly, would seem equally odd as they won 3 cup finals at the end of that season.

From what I gather (from speaking to the ex juniors Chairman) there was a row after the final game of last season when Bracknell blew their chance to win the league that resulted in the owner and manager no longer being on speaking terms. There was friction throughout the summer over players in or out (TJ Bohane being the biggest problem) and after the Thatcham defeat Tallentire walked.

That is of course second hand information so could be completely wrong but it was from someone who is far closer to the club than I am.

[Four Of Clubs]

Matches in 'local' NL tomorrow - incl FA Trophy full round

Review Saturday 13th Jan 2018

FA Trophy 2nd Round
01 Ebbsfleet United v Warrington Town
02 Kidderminster Harriers v Stockport County
03 East Thurrock United v Chester
04 Bognor Regis Town v Leyton Orient (no replay)
05 Brackley Town v Barrow
06 Weston super Mare v Workington
07 Billericay Town v Stourbridge
08 F.C. Halifax Town v Maidenhead United
09 Maidstone United v Heybridge Swifts
10 Dover Athletic v Marine
11 Gateshead v Boreham Wood
12 Wealdstone v Hereford
This match will be deemed fully segregated and Pay on the Day.
Match day Admission: Adults – £13, Concession – £9 (over 65 & students with ID), Under 18s – £3.
(Our Premiership/English Football League Season Ticket offer and Armed Services discount does NOT apply to this game). Turnstiles will be open from 13.30.

13 Sutton United v Hendon
14 Blyth Spartans v Bromley
15 Gainsborough Trinity v Solihull Moors
16 St. Albans City v Harrogate Town

NAT
Woking v Tranmere Rovers
NATS
Chelmsford City v Bath City
Chippenham Town v Braintree Town
Dartford v Havant & Waterlooville
Eastbourne Borough v Hampton & Richmond Borough
Hemel Hempstead Town v Hungerford Town
Oxford City v Whitehawk
Truro City v Concord Rangers

ILP
Lowestoft Town v Dorking Wanderers
Thurrock v Staines Town

SLP
Chesham United v Basingstoke Town
Farnborough v Merthyr Town
St Ives Town v Slough Town - 'Rebels' sit 3 points off a PO place with SIX games in hand on all above them save Hereford who have only played 3 games more. St Ives are near the foot of the table but only 1 club is set for relegation this term and that currently looks nailed on to be Gosport or Dunstable Town who are both over 10 points adrift

SL1E
Ashford Town (Middx) v AFC Dunstable
Aylesbury v Chalfont St Peter
Barton Rovers v Aylesbury United
Beaconsfield Town v Cambridge City
Bedford Town v Egham Town
Fleet Town v AFC Rushden & Diamonds
Hanwell Town v Hartley Wintney
Kempston Rovers v Uxbridge
Marlow v Moneyfields
Northwood v Arlesey Town
Thame United v Hayes & Yeading United
SL1W
Bristol Manor Farm v Kidlington
Didcot Town v Cirencester Town
Salisbury v North Leigh
Swindon Supermarine v Bideford
Winchester City v Larkhall Athletic

HELLP
Bracknell Town v Lydney Town
Brimscombe & Thrupp v Woodley United
Fairford Town v Oxford City Nomads
Flackwell Heath v Windsor
Longlevens v Highmoor Ibis
Thatcham Town v Royal Wootton Bassett Town
Tuffley Rovers v Abingdon United
Wantage Town v Ascot United
HELL1E
14:15 Chalfont Wasps v Bicester Town
AFC Aldermaston v Didcot Town Reserves
Sandhurst Town v Penn & Tylers Green
Virginia Water v Milton United

WESSP
Alresford Town v Lymington Town
Hamble Club v Andover Town
Horndean v Petersfield Town
WESS1
Christchurch v Whitchurch United
Downton v Alton
Fawley v Andover New Street
New Milton Town v Tadley Calleva

[double d]

Why?

12 Wealdstone v Hereford 
This match will be deemed fully segregated and Pay on the Day.
Match day Admission: Adults – £13, Concession – £9 (over 65 & students with ID), Under 18s – £3.
(Our Premiership/English Football League Season Ticket offer and Armed Services discount does NOT apply to this game). Turnstiles will be open from 13.30. 

[peterroyal76]

What with Reading and Burnham away tomorrow I’m planning on Thatcham V Royal Wootton Bassett.

[peterroyal76]

Why?

12 Wealdstone v Hereford 
This match will be deemed fully segregated and Pay on the Day.
Match day Admission: Adults – £13, Concession – £9 (over 65 & students with ID), Under 18s – £3.
(Our Premiership/English Football League Season Ticket offer and Armed Services discount does NOT apply to this game). Turnstiles will be open from 13.30. 

Could it be to do with the numbers that Hereford travel with? They sold their allocation and took 600 to Slough last week.

[Four Of Clubs]

.. bit of an ongoing procedural glitch chez FoCcers: for the 2nd time recently I've totally missed out the CCL - I blame the complete sack of To$$ that is Microsoft Edge - makes editing on this (and other sites) about as enjoyable as watching 'our lot' at the MadStad

Premier Division
AFC Hayes v Colliers Wood United
Balham v Chertsey Town
Bedfont Sports v Guildford City
CB Hounslow United v Sutton Common Rovers
Godalming Town v Epsom & Ewell
Hanworth Villa v Walton & Hersham
Horley Town v Farnham Town
North Greenford United v Knaphill
Redhill v Camberley Town
Spelthorne Sports v Banstead Athletic
Westfield v Abbey Rangers
ESOTERIC RECORDS DIVISION ONE CHALLENGE CUP – 2nd Round
Sheerwater v Farleigh Rovers 13.30

DIVISION ONE
Badshot Lea v Kensington Borough
Bagshot v FC Deportivo Galicia
Bedfont & Feltham v Fleet Spurs
Cove v AC London
Eversley & California v Ash United
Raynes Park Vale v Cobham
Staines Lammas v South Park Reserves 14.00
Worcester Park v Frimley Green 14.00

[Tad Showbiz]

Also some FA Vase Round 4 fixtures to complete today with some 'local interest...

Coleshill Town v Newcastle Benfield (replay) - winners home to Bracknell Town

Marske United v Hinckley AFC - @ Billingham Town
Newport IW v Bradford Town

Winners of Marske v Hinckley tie will be home to Newport IW or Bradford Town in next round

[Four Of Clubs]

... SLP St Ives v 'Sluff' - OFF waterlogged

[Royal Rother]

Good Cup runs can really kill non league teams chasing promotion when coupled with the odd postponement.

Slough will have 7 games in hand of 4 of the 5 teams above them and 4 on the other. They are going to miss out on promotion.

[bcubed]

Dipped my toe in the non-league water today
Brackley v Barrow
No goals but very lively attacking football with plenty of incident
Forgot what this was like!!
And no faking injury or diving!

There are a couple of Brackley players who look to me as if they could make it as pros
One maybe too small and one maybe needs to improve fitness
I'm sure you regular non league types would know better but it seems to me there are plenty of decent players out there

[Tony Le Mesmer]

Swindon Supermarine 0-5 Bideford

Worth the trip to remind myself just how weird the people of Swindon are. Not very welcoming and a girl of about 9 was taking the money behind the bar. Seriously.

Nice enough ground though. Looks like they’ve done some decent work on it.

[peterroyal76]

Dipped my toe in the non-league water today
Brackley v Barrow
No goals but very lively attacking football with plenty of incident
Forgot what this was like!!
And no faking injury or diving!

There are a couple of Brackley players who look to me as if they could make it as pros
One maybe too small and one maybe needs to improve fitness
I'm sure you regular non league types would know better but it seems to me there are plenty of decent players out there

My game was a polar opposite to yours then bcubed.

Thatcham 6-0 Royal Wootton Bassett.

Thatcham were superb, 6 goals, a few missed chances and the keeper made a few saves. RWB had a player booked for diving after going past the keeper.
I was really impressed with Thatcham and they’re the best team I’ve seen in Hellenic Prem this season.
This was my first visit to Thatcham and I was really impressed by the whole set up and facilities (ok the toilets were a bit ropey but then I am used to Burnham!). An added bonus was how close it was to the train station.

[AthleticoSpizz]

Are Thatcham up to and prepared for promotion these days?
Seem to remember them voluntarily dropping out of the “competitive” leagues not so long ago.

Glad to hear that they are doing well, must make effort to visit Waterside one day.

[peterroyal76]

Are Thatcham up to and prepared for promotion these days?
Seem to remember them voluntarily dropping out of the “competitive” leagues not so long ago.

Glad to hear that they are doing well, must make effort to visit Waterside one day.

I’m not the man to ask whether they’re prepared or not off the pitch. They are however second with a couple of games in hand on first although winning both wouldn’t put them in first. Decent crowd too, I’d estimate ‘about’ 200 I reckon. I never could count though.

[AthleticoSpizz]

Thanx, hopefully they will be able to take that step back up again. Just more concerned that they will not be able to (for the same reasons that they sought their relegation).

[mx]

Decent enough 3-1 win for Winchester City today v Larkhall. We had a lot of players out injured, so even better,

Should have been more for us - still lacking in incisiveness inside the final third, but a decent enough win.

Crowd of 150 ish compared to 350 when our reserves played Saints U23s on Thursday night, but hey ho.

On that point - what sort of admission prices do local clubs charge? Admission is £8 at Winch normally. Our three biggest attendances this season have been on football for a fiver games , including the Saints game this week. There needs to be a discussion at the club about admission costs. My view is get people in and then get money off them on the 50/50, food, drinks, the bar etc.

[Four Of Clubs]

... just a bit of tidying up - proper review posted sometime tomorrow....

Also some FA Vase Round 4 fixtures to complete today with some 'local interest...

(replay)
Coleshill Town 1-1 Newcastle Benfield aet - Coleshill W3-2 on pens - home to Bracknell Town

Marske United 5-0 Hinckley AFC - favourites easily through to next round to face ....

Newport IW 0-1 Bradford Town

... all three attendances above the 200 mark.

[Hoop Blah]

From what I gather (from speaking to the ex juniors Chairman) there was a row after the final game of last season when Bracknell blew their chance to win the league that resulted in the owner and manager no longer being on speaking terms. There was friction throughout the summer over players in or out (TJ Bohane being the biggest problem) and after the Thatcham defeat Tallentire walked.

That is of course second hand information so could be completely wrong but it was from someone who is far closer to the club than I am.

Not knocking the info, their ambition, or your input, but I just don't quite see how the no pressure from the chairman quite stacks up with the way Tallentire was treated and especially if it was a fall out over team selection.

Bracknell won 3 cup finals at the end of last season and finished 2nd in the league (to an excellent Thame side from what I saw) having won all but 2 of their last 15/20 games. If a Chairman can fall out with a manager after that run because they didn't win the last league game (against another excellent side in Highworth who sit top of the league this year incidentally) then I'd say there's a reasonable amount of pressure on a manager to perform, and perform how the Chairman thinks too.

I really hope Bracknell manage to get promotion by the way. The town is more than big enough to support a better performing club and it looks like they've got the ambition and organisation to do something about it.