The Non - League thread

[Royal Rother]

Virginia Water 3-3 Windsor - not seen a report but it looks like late goals were swapped at Stag – VW levelling on 93’ – Windsor behind @ HT led around the hour mark ; pegged back, then took the lead again on 86’ from the penalty spot?

Pretty much that way, yes.

Decent game by 2 not particularly good teams although Windsor are starting to gel a bit. Still a few key names to come back from hols / injuries (unless they’ve moved on without mention from the club).

VW’s late equaliser was a pen. No complaints and fair result although their keeper reckoned we shaded it overall.

Crowd given as 240! (It was certainly a decent gate but either my eyes are deceiving me or that’s the 2nd week on the trot where the crowd has been overstated by 50+. Odd. Must be me getting old.)

As for Wantage - can’t say I’m too surprised they are struggling having seen a very young Windsor beat them 7-1 in a PSF.

[Four Of Clubs]

here's the w/e preview - I'm not convinced the multiple SL/IL sites are correct; so I've gone for the one posting more matches currently - checked a couple where there was a difference e.g. between footballwebpages and betvictorsouthern and went with the one that the club site agreed with.....

Saturday 31st August

FA Vase 1st Qualifying Round
145 Risborough Rangers v Easington Sports
146 Holmer Green v Raunds Town
SUN 147 Irchester United v North Greenford United
- having a serious thought about this one
SUN 148 Long Crendon v Langley @ Oxford City
149 Wellingborough Town v Wellingborough Whitworth
150 Bedford v Burton Park Wanderers
151 Burnham v Harborough Town
152 Eynesbury Rovers v Harpenden Town
153 Winslow United v Rushden & Higham United
154 Chinnor P-P Broadfields United – Away Walkover
155 Rugby Borough v British Airways
156 Leighton Town v Bugbrooke St Michaels
157 Leverstock Green v Aylesbury Vale Dynamos
158 Lutterworth Town v Pitshanger Dynamo
159 Holyport v Unite MK
160 Ardley United v Northampton On Chenecks
SUN 161 Chalvey Sports v Wembley @ Arbour Pk Slough
162 Flackwell Heath v Arlesey Town
163 AFC Hayes v Dunstable Town
164 Hanworth Villa v Marston Shelton Rovers
165 St Panteleimon v Long Buckby
166 Bedfont & Feltham v Lutterworth Athletic
167 Rothwell Corinthians v Desborough Town
168 Hillingdon v Rayners Lane
169 NW London v Harefield United
170 Hillingdon Borough v Kensington & Ealing Borough
171 Amersham Town v Thame Rangers
FRI 172 Ascot United v Fleet Town (@ Fleet Town)
173 Tytherington Rocks v Newent Town
FRI 174 Shrivenham v Milton United
175 Cove v Fleet Spurs
176 Fairford Town v Abingdon Town
177 Frimley Green v Lydney Town
178 Thornbury Town v Cheltenham Saracens
179 Shortwood United v Tuffley Rovers
FRI 180 New College Swindon v Royal Wootton Bassett Town - well they weren't totally overwhelmed vs STEP05 opposition recently but this one on paper looks even more like a massacre in waiting for the Stundents. I watched their early venture into the Vase last season down near Portsmouth @ BMR and even with some of their supposed first teamers returning for the term, they were still squashed 14-1
181 Clanfield 85 v Sandhurst Town
SUN 182 14:00 Wokingham & Emmbrook v Chipping Sodbury Town
183 Abingdon United v Eversley & California
FRI 184 Binfield v Virginia Water
185 Malmesbury Victoria v Woodley United
186 Banstead Athletic v Greenwich Borough
187 Little Common v K Sports
188 Egham Town v FC Elmstead
189 Wick v Colliers Wood United
190 Lydd Town v Raynes Park Vale
191 Kent Football United v Snodland Town
192 Saltdean United v Lordswood
SUN 193 Tooting Bec v Walton & Hersham
194 Epsom & Ewell v Kennington
195 Molesey v Greenways
SUN 196 19:45 Littlehampton United v Bexhill United
197 AFC Varndeanians v Loxwood
198 Farnham Town v Langney Wanderers
199 Sporting Club Thamesmead v Sutton Athletic
SUN 200 Littlehampton Town v Tunbridge Wells
201 Southwick v Billingshurst
202 Erith & Belvedere v Fire United
203 Rochester United v Mile Oak
204 Ash United v Badshot Lea
205 Shoreham v Crowborough Athletic
206 Holmesdale v Sheerwater
207 Crawley Down Gatwick v East Preston
208 CB Hounslow United v Beckenham Town
209 Bagshot v Broadbridge Heath
210 Bridon Ropes v Pagham
SUN 211 Meridian VP v Hassocks
212 Godalming Town v Hailsham Town
213 Storrington Community v Knaphill
214 Sheppey United v AFC Croydon Athletic
215 Seaford Town v Eastbourne United
216 Forest Hill Park v Westside
217 Lingfield v Horley Town
218 Guildford City v Glebe
219 Peacehaven & Telescombe v Steyning Town Community
220 Cobham v PFC Victoria London
221 AFC Spelthorne Sports v Spelthorne Sports
222 Balham v Rusthall
223 Lancing v Chessington & Hook United
224 Erith Town v Welling Town
225 Midhurst & Easebourne v Alfold
226 Punjab United v Selsey
227 Sidlesham v Stansfeld
228 Lymington Town v Fawley @ AFC Totton
FRI 229 Fareham Town v Whitchurch United
230 Folland Sports v East Cowes Victoria Athletic
231 Alton v Andover New Street
FRI 232 Hamble Club v Totton & Eling
233 Bashley v Bridport
234 Bemerton Heath Harlequins v Alresford Town
235 Solent University v Bradford Town
236 United Services Portsmouth v Sherborne Town
237 Calne Town v Downton
238 New Milton Town v AFC Portchester
239 Andover Town v Westbury United
240 Swanage Town & Herston v Dorchester Sports
241 Devizes Town v Stockbridge
242 Cowes Sports v Shaftesbury
243 Ringwood Town v Verwood Town
244 Amesbury Town v Christchurch
245 Petersfield Town v AFC Stoneham
246 Pewsey Vale v Laverstock & Ford
247 Clevedon Town v Roman Glass St George
248 Almondsbury v Buckland Athletic
249 Bishops Lydeard v Bodmin Town
250 Shepton Mallet v Wellington AFC
251 Bristol Telephones v Falmouth Town
252 Ivybridge Town v Bishop Sutton
253 Cullompton Rangers v Newquay
254 St Blazey v Godolphin Atlantic
255 Elburton Villa v Saltash United
256 Keynsham Town v Helston Athletic
257 Tavistock v Hallen
258 Street v Crediton United
259 Hengrove Athletic v Radstock Town
260 Cadbury Heath v Longwell Green Sports
261 Wells City v Millbrook
262 Welton Rovers v Newton Abbot Spurs
263 Bovey Tracey v Liskeard Athletic
264 Porthleven v Callington Town
265 Ilfracombe Town v Torpoint Athletic
266 Odd Down v Portishead Town
267 Launceston v Cheddar
268 Exmouth Town v Brislington

Leagues:
NAT
Ebbsfleet United v Aldershot Town
Sutton United v Maidenhead United
Woking v Barrow
NATN
Gateshead v Brackley Town
NATS
Billericay Town v Hungerford Town
Chelmsford City v Bath City
Chippenham Town v Braintree Town
Concord Rangers v Welling United
Dartford v Hemel Hempstead Town
Dorking Wanderers v Dulwich Hamlet
Eastbourne Borough v Hampton & Richmond Borough
Oxford City v Havant & Waterlooville
Slough Town v St Albans City
Tonbridge Angels v Weymouth
Wealdstone v Maidstone United

SLP-S
Chesham United v Blackfield & Langley
Dorchester Town v Hartley Wintney
Farnborough v Truro City
Gosport Borough v Hayes & Yeading United
Swindon Supermarine v Poole Town
Weston-super-Mare v Beaconsfield Town
Wimborne Town v Walton Casuals
SL1- C
Berkhamsted v Kidlington
Daventry Town v Aylesbury United
Didcot Town v Yaxley
Kempston Rovers v Wantage Town
St Neots Town v North Leigh
Thame United v Bedworth United
SL1-S
Paulton Rovers v Thatcham Town
Slimbridge v Basingstoke Town
Willand Rovers v Highworth Town
Winchester City v Melksham Town

IL1-SC
Bedfont Sports v Barking
Bracknell Town v Ashford Town (Middx)
Chalfont St Peter v Chipstead
Chertsey Town v Ware
FC Romania v Marlow
Hanwell Town v Hertford Town
Staines Town v Harlow Town
Westfield v South Park

Not many below STEP04 due to the bumper Vase entries - these clubs must have byes:

CCLP
Camberley Town v Sutton Common Rovers - saw a fairly young looking Krooner side get battered 5-0 on Tue eve down at Baggy Lea's nice new facility at Wrecclesham - just W of Farnham off the A325. Not that far from Farnham's own Babbs Mead ground.
Southall v Redhill @ Ashford T (Mx)

HELLP
Brackley Town Saints v Longlevens
Brimscombe & Thrupp v Westfields

WESSP
Tadley Calleva v Portland United

...Wed evening dipped into rapidly disappearing early KO options in STEP07s; with a first viewing of Burghfield FC, who were edged out 1-2 in their Thames Valley Premier opener by a very competent looking Newbury FC.
Sadly the Visitors now ousted from Faraday Rd - this season will be playing home games at Henwick - ironcally in Thatcham - not that far from where there was a mighty furore about them being expected to groundshare at Waterside (with Town) a year or so back.

[Sutekh]

If only Maidenhead were good at home!

And Woking didn’t expect them to be pacesetters.

Be great if both stayed the course.

[Tony Le Mesmer]

Wokingham & Emmbrook 2-1 Chipping Sodbury Town (AET)

Good effort all round from the hosts for this fixture, no doubt helped by the fine weather. A quick headcount of over 200 must surely be their largest attendance since reforming? I would suspect the official att will be less than this in the absence of turnstiles.

[Four Of Clubs]

....sorry - lagging a bit this week - here's a round-up of the w/e - been a busy m/w too - covered some highlights but more later hopefully ....

Fri 30th/Saturday 31st August/Sun 1st Sept

FAV1Q
145 Risborough Rangers 6-0 Easington Sports
146 Holmer Green 0-1 Raunds Town
SUN 147 Irchester United 0-3 North Greenford United
- Got to this – easy enough trundle up the M40 and across to the other side of Northampton on the A45. Simple enough ground – STEP06 club – as is often the case at this level - all about the lovely/plush Sports Club and bar.
- On the pitch hosts overwhelmed by their STEP05 visitors who themselves not had a great start in the league.

SUN 148 Long Crendon 4-3 Langley aet FT 2-2
149 Wellingborough Town 4-1 Wellingborough Whitworth
150 Bedford 2-0 Burton Park Wanderers
151 Burnham 2-4 Harborough Town - 'Blues did manage to edge past STEP04 Slimbridge on pens at the Gore last night in the FA Cup replay
152 Eynesbury Rovers 2-0 Harpenden Town
153 Winslow United {SEVEN} 7-1 Rushden & Higham United
155 Rugby Borough 2-1 British Airways
156 Leighton Town 3-0 Bugbrooke St Michaels
157 Leverstock Green 1-1 Aylesbury Vale Dynamos aet 1-1 replay Tue
158 Lutterworth Town {SEVEN} 7-1 Pitshanger Dynamo
159 Holyport 3-2 Unite MK
160 Ardley United 1-3 Northampton On Chenecks
SUN 161 Chalvey Sports 0-1 Wembley att 147
162 Flackwell Heath 3-1 Arlesey Town
- watched Marcus's lads overcome in-form Reading City 3-1 at Magpie La last night (Tue) -
- the big fellah brought himself on for the last 20' with the game gripped at 1-1 - had an immediate & disruptive effect on their visitors back-line, as his very presence caused the young City defence to panic and give away a succession of free-kicks around the box. One floated cross was expertly cushioned in from close range by him, with several defenders 'hanging' off him, trying to hold him out.
Sadly not much later, he 'chased' a through ball (was offside anyway) and 'something went', requiring him to be subbed off with about 5' to go. Took about three to carry him off!
- there goes their Plan B for next Sat when they are away at Dartford-based Sutton Athletic in the FA Cup.

163 AFC Hayes 3-1 Dunstable Town
164 Hanworth Villa 5-1 Marston Shelton Rovers
165 St Panteleimon 3-4 Long Buckby
166 Bedfont & Feltham 5-0 Lutterworth Athletic
167 Rothwell Corinthians 2-0 Desborough Town
168 Hillingdon 5-1 Rayners Lane – minor shock as STEP07 Middx leaguers - not to be confused with 'Borough' and based at Brunel Uni easily put out STEP06 SSM side
169 NW London 0-2 Harefield United – 'hosts' are another STEP07 Middx side – g/share with Hadley in the SSM at Arkley (near the bottom of the M1)
170 Hillingdon Borough 3-2 Kensington & Ealing Borough
171 Amersham Town 2-1 Thame Rangers
FRI 172 Ascot United 3-3 Fleet Town att 175 replay Tuesday -'Yellamen' prevailed 3-1
173 Tytherington Rocks 0-2 Newent Town
FRI 174 Shrivenham 3-2 Milton United
175 Cove 0-1 Fleet Spurs
176 Fairford Town 5-1 Abingdon Town
177 Frimley Green 3-1 Lydney Town
178 Thornbury Town 6-2 Cheltenham Saracens
179 Shortwood United 5-0 Tuffley Rovers
FRI 180 New College Swindon 0-7 {SEVEN} Royal Wootton Bassett Town
181 Clanfield 85 {SEVEN} 7-3 Sandhurst Town - minor shock: 'Fizzers' had been in decent league form - however they did surprisingly succumb last night, at home to Cove in the league, which could be a sign some things are quite right.....

SUN 182 Wokingham & Emmbrook 2-1 Chipping Sodbury Town aet FT 1-1 att 217
183 Abingdon United 1-0 Eversley & California
FRI 184 Binfield 1-0 Virginia Water aet att 129
185 Malmesbury Victoria 3-0 Woodley United
186 Banstead Athletic 2-2 Greenwich Borough aet FT 1-1
187 Little Common 1-2 K Sports
188 Egham Town 3-2 FC Elmstead
189 Wick 0-4 Colliers Wood United
190 Lydd Town 5-5 Raynes Park Vale aet FT 4-4
191 Kent Football United 0-1 Snodland Town
192 Saltdean United 0-2 Lordswood
SUN 193 Tooting Bec 2-4 Walton & Hersham
194 Epsom & Ewell 1-4 Kennington
195 Molesey 4-3 Greenways aet FT 2-2
SUN 196 19:45 Littlehampton United 1-5 Bexhill United
197 AFC Varndeanians 2-2 Loxwood aet FT 2-2 pens 2-4
198 Farnham Town 2-1 Langney Wanderers
199 Sporting Club Thamesmead 3-2 Sutton Athletic
SUN 200 Littlehampton Town 0-4 Tunbridge Wells
201 Southwick 1-2 Billingshurst
202 Erith & Belvedere 3-0 Fire United
203 Rochester United 0-3 Mile Oak
204 Ash United 1-2 Badshot Lea
205 Shoreham 0-3 Crowborough Athletic
206 Holmesdale 2-1 Sheerwater
207 Crawley Down Gatwick 5-4 East Preston aet ft 4-4
208 CB Hounslow United 2-3 Beckenham Town
209 Bagshot 2-0 Broadbridge Heath
210 Bridon Ropes 2-2 Pagham AET ft 2-2 PENS 4-3
SUN 211 Meridian VP 0-2 Hassocks
212 Godalming Town 2-1 Hailsham Town
213 Storrington Community 0-6 {SIX} Knaphill
214 Sheppey United 2-0 AFC Croydon Athletic
215 Seaford Town 2-1 Eastbourne United
216 Forest Hill Park 1-2 Westside
217 Lingfield 1-2 Horley Town
218 Guildford City 0-3 Glebe
219 Peacehaven & Telescombe 2-2 Steyning Town Community aet FT 2-2
220 Cobham 3-2 PFC Victoria London
221 AFC Spelthorne Sports 1-4 Spelthorne Sports
222 Balham 1-2 Rusthall
223 Lancing 3-2 Chessington & Hook United
224 Erith Town 2-2 Welling Town aet FT2-2
225 Midhurst & Easebourne 3-1 Alfold
226 Punjab United 5-0 Selsey
227 Sidlesham 1-1 Stansfeld aet FT 1-1
228 Lymington Town 5-2 Fawley aet FT 1-1
FRI 229 Fareham Town 2-0 Whitchurch United
230 Folland Sports 0-1 East Cowes Victoria Athletic
231 Alton 2-1 Andover New Street
FRI 232 Hamble Club 4-0 Totton & Eling
233 Bashley 3-0 Bridport
234 Bemerton Heath Harlequins 1-2 Alresford Town aet FT 1-1
235 Solent University 2-7 {SEVEN} Bradford Town
236 United Services Portsmouth 2-3 Sherborne Town
237 Calne Town 1-3 Downton
238 New Milton Town 1-4 AFC Portchester
239 Andover Town 1-4 Westbury United
240 Swanage Town & Herston 0-1 Dorchester Sports
241 Devizes Town 1-0 Stockbridge
242 Cowes Sports 2-0 Shaftesbury
243 Ringwood Town 1-1 Verwood Town aet FT 1-1
244 Amesbury Town 1-4 Christchurch
245 Petersfield Town 1-0 AFC Stoneham
246 Pewsey Vale 0-1 Laverstock & Ford
247 Clevedon Town 1-2 Roman Glass St George
248 Almondsbury 2-4 Buckland Athletic
249 Bishops Lydeard 1-3 Bodmin Town
250 Shepton Mallet 4-0 Wellington AFC
251 Bristol Telephones 1-3 Falmouth Town
252 Ivybridge Town 4-1 Bishop Sutton aet FT 1-1
253 Cullompton Rangers 2-0 Newquay
254 St Blazey 5-3 Godolphin Atlantic Newquay
255 Elburton Villa 1-5 Saltash United
256 Keynsham Town 0-1 Helston Athletic
257 Tavistock 4-1 Hallen
258 Street 3-0 Crediton United
259 Hengrove Athletic 0-1 Radstock Town
260 Cadbury Heath 3-0 Longwell Green Sports
261 Wells City 5-3 Millbrook aet FT 2-2
262 Welton Rovers 0-4 Newton Abbot Spurs
263 Bovey Tracey 3-1 Liskeard Athletic
264 Porthleven {SEVEN} 7-0 Callington Town
265 Ilfracombe Town 1-2 Torpoint Athletic
266 Odd Down 1-2 Portishead Town
267 Launceston 0-3 Cheddar
268 Exmouth Town 3-2 Brislington

Leagues:
NAT
Ebbsfleet United 1-2 Aldershot Town
Sutton United 0-3 Maidenhead United
Woking 3-2 Barrow
NATN
Gateshead 2-0 Brackley Town - Saints bounced back last night (Tue 3rd) with a decent win (3-1) at Kidderminster
NATS
Billericay Town 3-0 Hungerford Town - 'Crusaders' looking a bit sorry of late, after last night rooted to the foot of the table; trek down to free-scoring Havant tonight (Wed)
Chelmsford City 1-0 Bath City
Chippenham Town 1-2 Braintree Town
Concord Rangers 3-0 Welling United
Dartford 1-1 Hemel Hempstead Town
Dorking Wanderers 0-0 Dulwich Hamlet
Eastbourne Borough 4-1 Hampton & Richmond Borough
Oxford City 0-3 Havant & Waterlooville - City got a battling point at home to Weymuff on Tue
Slough Town 1-1 St Albans City - Rebels picked up a 2-0 win over Hemel at Arbour Pk last night
Tonbridge Angels 1-1 Weymouth
Wealdstone 2-1 Maidstone United - 'Stones' followed this up with a 3-2 win at StAlebuns and go 7 points clear

SLP-S
Chesham United 2-1 Blackfield & Langley – Generals up to 4th
Dorchester Town 2-3 Hartley Wintney
Farnborough 0-2 Truro City
Gosport Borough 1-1 Hayes & Yeading United
Swindon Supermarine 0-1 Poole Town
Weston-super-Mare 1-0 Beaconsfield Town
Wimborne Town 4-1 Walton Casuals
- in the Central section Banbury won impressively at Peterboro Sports last night following up a great win at Bromsgrove on Sat - and are now top - hadn't noticed them creep up there. They have played a game more than the big-hitters in this division though.
SL1- C
Berkhamsted 4-0 Kidlington - Kiddy host Diddy on Wed (4th)
Daventry Town 1-4 Aylesbury United
Didcot Town 1-0 Yaxley
Kempston Rovers 4-0 Wantage Town
St Neots Town 1-5 North Leigh
Thame United 1-2 Bedworth United
SL1-S
Paulton Rovers 1-2 Thatcham Town – ‘Kingfishers’ went up to 2nd behind Frome - then grabbed top spot last night (Tue) with a 3-0 win over Cirencester
Slimbridge 2-0 Basingstoke Town – ‘Dragons’ just outside the bottom 2 with 1 point from 4 games.
Willand Rovers 0-1 Highworth Town
Winchester City 3-0 Melksham Town – att 171 ‘Winch’ in 5th

IL1-SC
Bedfont Sports 0-0 Barking
Bracknell Town 4-0 Ashford Town (Middx) - att 286 - hatrick for Minhas
Chalfont St Peter 3-2 Chipstead
Chertsey Town 1-1 Ware
FC Romania 1-4 Marlow
Hanwell Town 4-1 Hertford Town
Staines Town 1-2 Harlow Town
Westfield 1-1 South Park

CCLP
Camberley Town 0-4 Sutton Common Rovers
Southall 1-2 Redhill

HELLP
Brackley Town Saints 0-2 Longlevens
Brimscombe & Thrupp 3-3 Westfields

WESSP
Tadley Calleva 1-1 Portland United

[LWJ]

Did Bemerton v Andover Town last night.

Good game 4 -2 Bemerton but Andover were unlucky. Spectator had a heart attack mid way during first half, conscious last i heard but terrible thing to happen

[Old Man Andrews]

Did Bemerton v Andover Town last night.

Good game 4 -2 Bemerton but Andover were unlucky. Spectator had a heart attack mid way during first half, conscious last i heard but terrible thing to happen

Have you made use of the sin bin rule yet? Surely it will end up causing more trouble than it is worth.

[LWJ]

Did Bemerton v Andover Town last night.

Good game 4 -2 Bemerton but Andover were unlucky. Spectator had a heart attack mid way during first half, conscious last i heard but terrible thing to happen

Have you made use of the sin bin rule yet? Surely it will end up causing more trouble than it is worth.

Twice on Sunday.

Won't cause any trouble IMO. Will actually mean you hear a lot less dissent and whinging from the players throughout. Teammates will soon get on their backs when they have to play with 10 men for 10 minutes because they shout their mouths off about a decision which won't change...

[Old Man Andrews]

Did Bemerton v Andover Town last night.

Good game 4 -2 Bemerton but Andover were unlucky. Spectator had a heart attack mid way during first half, conscious last i heard but terrible thing to happen

Have you made use of the sin bin rule yet? Surely it will end up causing more trouble than it is worth.

Twice on Sunday.

Won't cause any trouble IMO. Will actually mean you hear a lot less dissent and whinging from the players throughout. Teammates will soon get on their backs when they have to play with 10 men for 10 minutes because they shout their mouths off about a decision which won't change...

Who keeps tabs on the time the players are in the sin bin? The assistant ref?

[LWJ]

Have you made use of the sin bin rule yet? Surely it will end up causing more trouble than it is worth.

Twice on Sunday.

Won't cause any trouble IMO. Will actually mean you hear a lot less dissent and whinging from the players throughout. Teammates will soon get on their backs when they have to play with 10 men for 10 minutes because they shout their mouths off about a decision which won't change...

Who keeps tabs on the time the players are in the sin bin? The assistant ref?

The ref generally speaking, though they can assign to one of the assistants if they want to. Pretty easy to remember tbh. If the watch is stopped, so is the sin bin.

[Old Man Andrews]

Twice on Sunday.

Won't cause any trouble IMO. Will actually mean you hear a lot less dissent and whinging from the players throughout. Teammates will soon get on their backs when they have to play with 10 men for 10 minutes because they shout their mouths off about a decision which won't change...

Who keeps tabs on the time the players are in the sin bin? The assistant ref?

The ref generally speaking, though they can assign to one of the assistants if they want to. Pretty easy to remember tbh. If the watch is stopped, so is the sin bin.

Just seems like a lot more to remember, especially for young refs coming in to the game.

[LWJ]

Who keeps tabs on the time the players are in the sin bin? The assistant ref?

The ref generally speaking, though they can assign to one of the assistants if they want to. Pretty easy to remember tbh. If the watch is stopped, so is the sin bin.

Just seems like a lot more to remember, especially for young refs coming in to the game.

I think like other fans, you are overthinking it. A player gets a yellow card, he goes in the book. A player gets a sin bin, you write the time in the book. The coaches/players won't let you forget there's someone in the sinbin and you can always refer back to your book should you forget the time.

[Old Man Andrews]

The ref generally speaking, though they can assign to one of the assistants if they want to. Pretty easy to remember tbh. If the watch is stopped, so is the sin bin.

Just seems like a lot more to remember, especially for young refs coming in to the game.

I think like other fans, you are overthinking it. A player gets a yellow card, he goes in the book. A player gets a sin bin, you write the time in the book. The coaches/players won't let you forget there's someone in the sinbin and you can always refer back to your book should you forget the time.

What did you sin bin for at the weekend? Persistant offences by the same player or one off incidents?

[LWJ]

Just seems like a lot more to remember, especially for young refs coming in to the game.

I think like other fans, you are overthinking it. A player gets a yellow card, he goes in the book. A player gets a sin bin, you write the time in the book. The coaches/players won't let you forget there's someone in the sinbin and you can always refer back to your book should you forget the time.

What did you sin bin for at the weekend? Persistant offences by the same player or one off incidents?

Sunday league - Warned captains at start of second half that the whinging was getting over the top and I was going to start binning players regardless of if they had been warned personally or not. They understood it was team wide warning and they both passed the message on.

First one 10 minutes into second half - played an advantage for attacking team, went nowhere so I called it back and gave the foul. Attacking team center back starts screaming from opposite end (60 + yards) about how it's a foul and why didn't I give it. (after I had given it) No need for it, complete dissent and disrupts the game for no reason so, cya! No complaints from his teammates.

Second one 7 minutes before the end - Opposite team, their center back has been warned a couple of times, just loves a whine. Starts going off on one again (within 15 yards or so), I told him one more word and he goes. He said pathetic. *shrug* cya! Explained to his teammates after the game (we abandoned 3 minutes after the SB due to broken ankle) what had happened and they all told him he's an idiot and needs to just shut up.

The reaction from the players both times isn't that I was being over the top. It was that their players needed to just shut up and get on with it.. Exactly why it was bought in. You will see less and less of them as the season goes on.

[Old Man Andrews]

I think like other fans, you are overthinking it. A player gets a yellow card, he goes in the book. A player gets a sin bin, you write the time in the book. The coaches/players won't let you forget there's someone in the sinbin and you can always refer back to your book should you forget the time.

What did you sin bin for at the weekend? Persistant offences by the same player or one off incidents?

Sunday league - Warned captains at start of second half that the whinging was getting over the top and I was going to start binning players regardless of if they had been warned personally or not. They understood it was team wide warning and they both passed the message on.

First one 10 minutes into second half - played an advantage for attacking team, went nowhere so I called it back and gave the foul. Attacking team center back starts screaming from opposite end (60 + yards) about how it's a foul and why didn't I give it. (after I had given it) No need for it, complete dissent and disrupts the game for no reason so, cya! No complaints from his teammates.

Second one 7 minutes before the end - Opposite team, their center back has been warned a couple of times, just loves a whine. Starts going off on one again (within 15 yards or so), I told him one more word and he goes. He said pathetic. *shrug* cya! Explained to his teammates after the game (we abandoned 3 minutes after the SB due to broken ankle) what had happened and they all told him he's an idiot and needs to just shut up.

The reaction from the players both times isn't that I was being over the top. It was that their players needed to just shut up and get on with it.. Exactly why it was bought in. You will see less and less of them as the season goes on.

If it helps with referee abuse dropping then I am all for it. The one worry I have is that all referees are different so one week a player may get a free pass and another week he might get sin binned.

When it was rolled out did they make references to kids football? Does it apply to Under 9's for example?

[LWJ]

If it helps with referee abuse dropping then I am all for it. The one worry I have is that all referees are different so one week a player may get a free pass and another week he might get sin binned.

When it was rolled out did they make references to kids football? Does it apply to Under 9's for example?

That point still stood when you got booked for dissent. One week a ref accepts it, the next they don't...

I believe anything under 11v11 is 8 minute bins rather than 10. Though I don't really ref kids football so not up to date.

[Old Man Andrews]

If it helps with referee abuse dropping then I am all for it. The one worry I have is that all referees are different so one week a player may get a free pass and another week he might get sin binned.

When it was rolled out did they make references to kids football? Does it apply to Under 9's for example?

That point still stood when you got booked for dissent. One week a ref accepts it, the next they don't...

I believe anything under 11v11 is 8 minute bins rather than 10. Though I don't really ref kids football so not up to date.

One last question in the Q&A.

Do you have to report all the sin bins you give or is not part of any match report? Do the leagues keep tabs on the amount of times players enter the sin bin and then punish further if there are multiple sin bins over a certain period?

[LWJ]

If it helps with referee abuse dropping then I am all for it. The one worry I have is that all referees are different so one week a player may get a free pass and another week he might get sin binned.

When it was rolled out did they make references to kids football? Does it apply to Under 9's for example?

That point still stood when you got booked for dissent. One week a ref accepts it, the next they don't...

I believe anything under 11v11 is 8 minute bins rather than 10. Though I don't really ref kids football so not up to date.

One last question in the Q&A.

Do you have to report all the sin bins you give or is not part of any match report? Do the leagues keep tabs on the amount of times players enter the sin bin and then punish further if there are multiple sin bins over a certain period?

Yes, we report them on our system the same as we would have previously (C2 - Dissent), though the clubs no longer have to pay fines like they used to for the caution. So there's a good benefit for grassroots football as you found most clubs would pay the fine for the players.

I'm sure it's monitored and potential bans handed out to persistent offenders but not sure on numbers required.

[Old Man Andrews]

That point still stood when you got booked for dissent. One week a ref accepts it, the next they don't...

I believe anything under 11v11 is 8 minute bins rather than 10. Though I don't really ref kids football so not up to date.

One last question in the Q&A.

Do you have to report all the sin bins you give or is not part of any match report? Do the leagues keep tabs on the amount of times players enter the sin bin and then punish further if there are multiple sin bins over a certain period?

Yes, we report them on our system the same as we would have previously (C2 - Dissent), though the clubs no longer have to pay fines like they used to for the caution. So there's a good benefit for grassroots football as you found most clubs would pay the fine for the players.

I'm sure it's monitored and potential bans handed out to persistent offenders but not sure on numbers required.

Cheers LWJ, very informative.

[StellaPlease]

One last question in the Q&A.

Do you have to report all the sin bins you give or is not part of any match report? Do the leagues keep tabs on the amount of times players enter the sin bin and then punish further if there are multiple sin bins over a certain period?

Yes, we report them on our system the same as we would have previously (C2 - Dissent), though the clubs no longer have to pay fines like they used to for the caution. So there's a good benefit for grassroots football as you found most clubs would pay the fine for the players.

I'm sure it's monitored and potential bans handed out to persistent offenders but not sure on numbers required.

Cheers LWJ, very informative.

He's not going to shag you.