Injury watch 2022/23

[Hound]

One of them would. The other can FOAD.

Bit harsh on Yaks after all he has done for us

You're a Yak hating meanie.

I love the guy but he is sadly not what he was

[Notts Royal]

Well I, for one, would feel a lot more confident of our survival if we had a fit Meite…and Ince plays him on the right.

I’d also feel less confident of survival if Rahman was fit and reinstated to the side. NGW is limited but can attack. Rahman can neither defend nor attack

[tidus_mi2]

Well I, for one, would feel a lot more confident of our survival if we had a fit Meite…and Ince plays him on the right.

I’d also feel less confident of survival if Rahman was fit and reinstated to the side. NGW is limited but can attack. Rahman can neither defend nor attack

My worry with Rahman is if there is truth to the suggestion he has to play a certain % of minutes when fit. To be fair to him I think when both he and NGW are at their best, Rahman is the superior player but Rahman before his injury was nowhere near that level.

[URZZZZ]

Would rather have experienced players in the squad than not, would probably rather have Rahman playing than NGW to be honest.

Our squad has been full of experienced players all season and we’ve struggled, hasn’t been enough energy and dynamism in the side so not sure how bringing in Rahman particularly helps with that

Do think there’s something there with NGW but he’s still a fair way off being good enough to start week in and week out and I don’t see how he can make the appropriate progress under Ince anyway

[YorkshireRoyal99]

Would rather have experienced players in the squad than not, would probably rather have Rahman playing than NGW to be honest.

Our squad has been full of experienced players all season and we’ve struggled, hasn’t been enough energy and dynamism in the side so not sure how bringing in Rahman particularly helps with that

Do think there’s something there with NGW but he’s still a fair way off being good enough to start week in and week out and I don’t see how he can make the appropriate progress under Ince anyway

Yep, we've struggled but we were always going to struggle. The fact we've still got our heads above water with what we've had to play with is a success within itself.

I don't think Rahman helps with energy or dynamism, but I do believe putting better quality players in your side ultimately gives you better chances of success. With a limited squad in terms of quality, I wouldn't want us putting worse players in the side just because some fans like him.

[Hound]

NGW is a wing back. An actual wing back rather than a winger or full back (or cb) being asked to play there. Baba isn’t

If we have a back 3 of day Holmes, Mbengue and Sarr/Dann then NGW would be a great option on the left

If we play a back 4 with Holmes and Sarr/Dann in the middle and NGW on tbe left it’s a disaster waiting to happen

But yeah not really sure how Baba helps us in any way as he has been crap in a back 4 as well this year

[URZZZZ]

But yeah not really sure how Baba helps us in any way as he has been crap in a back 4 as well this year

He’s only played there once this season! Away at Watford which, coincidentally, was one of his better games

In fact he’s only started 13 league games all season. As ineffective as he’s been, he hasn’t played much really

[Hound]

But yeah not really sure how Baba helps us in any way as he has been crap in a back 4 as well this year

He’s only played there once this season! Away at Watford which, coincidentally, was one of his better games

In fact he’s only started 13 league games all season. As ineffective as he’s been, he hasn’t played much really

Only started there once this seaosn. We’ve switched to a back 4 in games at times with him in it

But tbf I should rephrase to playing full back. We’ve definitely played a back 5 rather than a back 3 with him in it (utd away, Sunderland away etc)

[YorkshireRoyal99]

It's one of those, if we need a bit more defensive solidarity down our left, Baba is clearly a better option whereas if we want a more offensive option then NGW is the better player to have in that area whether that's as a wing back or full back.

Same/similar positions, but different qualities. Baba may have been better against the likes of Millwall or Sheff United where we may have wanted a bit more quality defensively, whereas NGW or possibly even Azeez would do better against sides where we need a bigger threat going forward.

[Hound]

It's one of those, if we need a bit more defensive solidarity down our left, Baba is clearly a better option whereas if we want a more offensive option then NGW is the better player to have in that area whether that's as a wing back or full back.

Same/similar positions, but different qualities. Baba may have been better against the likes of Millwall or Sheff United where we may have wanted a bit more quality defensively, whereas NGW or possibly even Azeez would do better against sides where we need a bigger threat going forward.

Slightly irrelevant as he is injured but I’d prefer McIntyre to baba as full back.

It’s difficult now as neither Baba or NGW or ideal, esp in a back 4. Clearly a problem area

[URZZZZ]

But yeah not really sure how Baba helps us in any way as he has been crap in a back 4 as well this year

He’s only played there once this season! Away at Watford which, coincidentally, was one of his better games

In fact he’s only started 13 league games all season. As ineffective as he’s been, he hasn’t played much really

Only started there once this seaosn. We’ve switched to a back 4 in games at times with him in it

But tbf I should rephrase to playing full back. We’ve definitely played a back 5 rather than a back 3 with him in it (utd away, Sunderland away etc)

Granted but the same problem still arises for Rahman in a flat back five or with higher wing backs. In the set up Ince plays, you look up as a WB, you have four CB’s around you (pass backwards), or an aimless hoof to Carroll. You have the occasional option of passing to someone like Hendrick but then he’s faced with the same problem of having no options, particularly as Ince (our most mobile player) spends most the game drifting over to the right

It begs the question, what do you actually expect these players to do? Rahman isn’t going to be direct and have a foray forward so he’s left with the aforementioned options. NGW is more direct but even then, he seems to have lost his attacking spark he demonstrated at the start of the season. Ditto Hoilett. The goal contributions from our wingbacks has been paltry. I’ve never quite understood the overall clamour for the formation and aside from maybe prime Obita and McCleary, we haven’t really had anyone specialised to do that role in recent years

Blackpool and Blackburn were an evident improvement in recent weeks as there were actually options moving forward and we could use the width better with two players on each side. Yet Ince reverted to a back five against Hull - made very little sense!

[Sutekh]

Personally, excluding players out for the rest of the season, I would say the best and most entertaining XI that Ince could play is

Lumley
Abrefa Holmes Sarr Mbengue NGW
Hendrick Casadei
Meite Carroll Ince

Subs

Boyce-Clarke (because I want him to get match day experience and sign a new deal)
Ehibhatiomhan
Joao
Fornah
Ejaria
Dann
Loum

[Snowflake Royal]

Would rather have experienced players in the squad than not, would probably rather have Rahman playing than NGW to be honest.

Our squad has been full of experienced players all season and we’ve struggled, hasn’t been enough energy and dynamism in the side so not sure how bringing in Rahman particularly helps with that

Do think there’s something there with NGW but he’s still a fair way off being good enough to start week in and week out and I don’t see how he can make the appropriate progress under Ince anyway

Yep, we've struggled but we were always going to struggle. The fact we've still got our heads above water with what we've had to play with is a success within itself.

I don't think Rahman helps with energy or dynamism, but I do believe putting better quality players in your side ultimately gives you better chances of success. With a limited squad in terms of quality, I wouldn't want us putting worse players in the side just because some fans like him.

You need to take a look at the likes of Luton and Millwall.

Experience =/= good

Team fit is far more important.

NGW is far superior to Rahman. The recent two goals he's had some culpability in weren't even really his fault.

[Hound]

He’s only played there once this season! Away at Watford which, coincidentally, was one of his better games

In fact he’s only started 13 league games all season. As ineffective as he’s been, he hasn’t played much really

Only started there once this seaosn. We’ve switched to a back 4 in games at times with him in it

But tbf I should rephrase to playing full back. We’ve definitely played a back 5 rather than a back 3 with him in it (utd away, Sunderland away etc)

Granted but the same problem still arises for Rahman in a flat back five or with higher wing backs. In the set up Ince plays, you look up as a WB, you have four CB’s around you (pass backwards), or an aimless hoof to Carroll. You have the occasional option of passing to someone like Hendrick but then he’s faced with the same problem of having no options, particularly as Ince (our most mobile player) spends most the game drifting over to the right

It begs the question, what do you actually expect these players to do? Rahman isn’t going to be direct and have a foray forward so he’s left with the aforementioned options. NGW is more direct but even then, he seems to have lost his attacking spark he demonstrated at the start of the season. Ditto Hoilett. The goal contributions from our wingbacks has been paltry. I’ve never quite understood the overall clamour for the formation and aside from maybe prime Obita and McCleary, we haven’t really had anyone specialised to do that role in recent years

Blackpool and Blackburn were an evident improvement in recent weeks as there were actually options moving forward and we could use the width better with two players on each side. Yet Ince reverted to a back five against Hull - made very little sense!

You could fairly easily play a 5-2-3 with two wide forwards ahead of the wing backs. Even a 5-3-2 should give you some sort of width and ability to overlap as a WB as 2 of those 3 should be a fairly clear left or right CM and the two forwards would be expected to come into the channels

They just aren’t very good / right for the role is the simple truth.

I’m not a huge fan of WBs /3 or 5 a the back either mind you. You need a quite specific type of player to make it work. NGW prob is that but he’s still making his way and has his flaws

[YorkshireRoyal99]

Our squad has been full of experienced players all season and we’ve struggled, hasn’t been enough energy and dynamism in the side so not sure how bringing in Rahman particularly helps with that

Do think there’s something there with NGW but he’s still a fair way off being good enough to start week in and week out and I don’t see how he can make the appropriate progress under Ince anyway

Yep, we've struggled but we were always going to struggle. The fact we've still got our heads above water with what we've had to play with is a success within itself.

I don't think Rahman helps with energy or dynamism, but I do believe putting better quality players in your side ultimately gives you better chances of success. With a limited squad in terms of quality, I wouldn't want us putting worse players in the side just because some fans like him.

You need to take a look at the likes of Luton and Millwall.

Experience =/= good

Team fit is far more important.

NGW is far superior to Rahman. The recent two goals he's had some culpability in weren't even really his fault.

You might be right re NGW's errors, but I could guarantee you that if you put Rahman in their instead of him the fanbase would be up in arms that's all I'm saying. He takes responsibility for two pretty poor errors that have cost us, not solely him though.

Team fit is subjective to the team you're playing against. As I mentioned, in a game where we want to be more expansive, NGW is the better option, if we need to be solid defensively then Rahman is the player you'd rather have. Most of this season we've played more the latter than the former, yes that's part of the problem sometimes, but that's just the way we play.

Personally I don't think he's far superior, I don't think he is better at all, but they are two different type of players.

[Mid Sussex Royal]

Carrroll, Ince & Dann likely all out on Sat

Ejaria knee op so out for season - ends the rumours of him not being injured I guess....

Meite only player returning from injury

[Hendo]

Ejaria knee op so out for season - ends the rumours of him not being injured I guess....

Lol, take another guess on that one...

Tin foil sales in Reading must've gone up quite a bit over the last few weeks.

[Snowflake Royal]

What about Hutch and Rahman?

We were in danger of the Chelsea failure getting selected for no reason again, I thought.

[Mid Sussex Royal]

What about Hutch and Rahman?

We were in danger of the Chelsea failure getting selected for no reason again, I thought.

Ince expecting out for season

[Hound]

Both?

Bloody hell our medical dept isn’t getting any better is it?