Royal_jimmy wrote:I predict Bowen as manager in September when we lose our first 8 games of the season under Ince
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Royal_jimmy wrote:I predict Bowen as manager in September when we lose our first 8 games of the season under Ince
I'm not sure I agree with the first statement - in the past decade or so we've had a whole host of clubs getting their first go at the Football League: Harrogate, Sutton, Forest Green, Fleetwood, Morecambe, Yeovil, Salford - Barrow coming back after god knows how long. I've probably missed a few to boot.YorkshireRoyal99 wrote:Easily, I'd even go and say 4 teams up and down (obviously would have to go for 3 first) between the divisions. Not enough clubs get enough of a chance at the FL I'd say who would probably make for a more interesting spectacle than some of the dross that have clogged the league up for years.blythspartan wrote:I wouldn’t want Parky as manager but to be fair to him the National League is really tough. I had underestimated it but having seen Chesterfield a few times this season there are some decent teams who get big support.tidus_mi2 wrote:Phil Parkinson has taken what I assume to be the largest budget team in the National League by quite a margin to 2nd place and a play-off semi-final defeat.
Hopefully that shuts up the few people, including a very racist individual clamouring for him to come here.
With only one automatic promotion place up for grabs it’s far from easy. Tbh it’s about time they had 3 up and 3 down, plus 4 teams playing for one playoff place. Chesterfield took over 2,500 fans to Halifax last Tuesday night and the tickets sold out in a few hours. It’s criminal that the playoff final is at West Ham it should be somewhere like Villa Park. All the playoff teams were midlands and above.
I follow Morecambe a little bit due to some history in our family. They regularly used to finish 20th (in and around) in League Two and the narrative seemed to be they'd only ever stay up because 1 promoted team would usually be worse and a couple of other clubs below them would be struggling financially. Me and my brother said that, if Morecambe were relegated from League Two, they wouldn't come back up just like some others haven't (Barnet, Dag & Red, Yeovil, Torquay) for a number of years. This was going back a couple of seasons now though, obviously before they were promoted to L1 ironically.
You've then also got to look at some of those clubs who haven't made it as well, where they otherwise would have done in a different league, such as League Two. Examples such as Boreham Wood, Solihull Moors (maybe this year), AFC Fylde, Bromley etc and a couple of those aren't in the National League no more. Your clubs such as Fleetwood, Salford and Forest Green got to their position due to an influx of money which would be the same for most sides, like Stockport and Wrexham who are competing near the top (with the former being promoted) with finances behind them.Stranded wrote:I'm not sure I agree with the first statement - in the past decade or so we've had a whole host of clubs getting their first go at the Football League: Harrogate, Sutton, Forest Green, Fleetwood, Morecambe, Yeovil, Salford - Barrow coming back after god knows how long. I've probably missed a few to boot.YorkshireRoyal99 wrote:Easily, I'd even go and say 4 teams up and down (obviously would have to go for 3 first) between the divisions. Not enough clubs get enough of a chance at the FL I'd say who would probably make for a more interesting spectacle than some of the dross that have clogged the league up for years.blythspartan wrote:
I wouldn’t want Parky as manager but to be fair to him the National League is really tough. I had underestimated it but having seen Chesterfield a few times this season there are some decent teams who get big support.
With only one automatic promotion place up for grabs it’s far from easy. Tbh it’s about time they had 3 up and 3 down, plus 4 teams playing for one playoff place. Chesterfield took over 2,500 fans to Halifax last Tuesday night and the tickets sold out in a few hours. It’s criminal that the playoff final is at West Ham it should be somewhere like Villa Park. All the playoff teams were midlands and above.
I follow Morecambe a little bit due to some history in our family. They regularly used to finish 20th (in and around) in League Two and the narrative seemed to be they'd only ever stay up because 1 promoted team would usually be worse and a couple of other clubs below them would be struggling financially. Me and my brother said that, if Morecambe were relegated from League Two, they wouldn't come back up just like some others haven't (Barnet, Dag & Red, Yeovil, Torquay) for a number of years. This was going back a couple of seasons now though, obviously before they were promoted to L1 ironically.
The National League is now pretty much a graveyard for mismanaged EFL clubs - so all adding a promotion spot or two would do realistically is give clubs a lifeline who perhaps don't need it. Look at the top half of the NL:
Stockport
Wrexham
Halifax
Notts County
Chesterfield
Dagenham & Redbridge
Then you have Southend, Yeovil, Aldershot, Torquay all trying to find a way back.
I think 2 is enough as it does give promoted sides a chance to establish themselves with less fear of dropping straight back down. If you moved to 3 or 4 spots at the bottom then I you're looking at a churn of 7 or 8 clubs in L2 each year, which is just too much IMHO.
And of course, the two most successful clubs came first and second. Wrexham also reached the FA Trophy final and had the highest home National league attendance, and LOL you still think Parkys a failure.South Coast Royal wrote:tidus_mi2 wrote:Phil Parkinson has taken what I assume to be the largest budget team in the National League by quite a margin to 2nd place and a play-off semi-final defeat.
Didn't the two biggest budget clubs come first and second?
A bit like The Championship?

To be fair, yes, they should have got promoted this season. That within itself is a failure for the club.karbota wrote:And of course, the two most successful clubs came first and second. Wrexham also reached the FA Trophy final and had the highest home National league attendance, and LOL you still think Parkys a failure.South Coast Royal wrote:tidus_mi2 wrote:Phil Parkinson has taken what I assume to be the largest budget team in the National League by quite a margin to 2nd place and a play-off semi-final defeat.
Didn't the two biggest budget clubs come first and second?
A bit like The Championship?
Vanarama National League table
# Team Average
1. Wrexham 8,114
2. Notts County 6,836
3. Stockport County 6,019
4. Grimsby Town 5,974
He's managing in non-league for a reason... HTHkarbota wrote:And of course, the two most successful clubs came first and second. Wrexham also reached the FA Trophy final and had the highest home National league attendance, and LOL you still think Parkys a failure.South Coast Royal wrote:tidus_mi2 wrote:Phil Parkinson has taken what I assume to be the largest budget team in the National League by quite a margin to 2nd place and a play-off semi-final defeat.
Didn't the two biggest budget clubs come first and second?
A bit like The Championship?
Vanarama National League table
# Team Average
1. Wrexham 8,114
2. Notts County 6,836
3. Stockport County 6,019
4. Grimsby Town 5,974
They finished 8th last season so???????????????????.YorkshireRoyal99 wrote:To be fair, yes, they should have got promoted this season. That within itself is a failure for the club.karbota wrote:And of course, the two most successful clubs came first and second. Wrexham also reached the FA Trophy final and had the highest home National league attendance, and LOL you still think Parkys a failure.South Coast Royal wrote:
Vanarama National League table
# Team Average
1. Wrexham 8,114
2. Notts County 6,836
3. Stockport County 6,019
4. Grimsby Town 5,974
Link, please.NathStPaul wrote:Why are you talking to a racist?
Yep with no money they finished 8th. Wrexham fans want him out. The style of football is awful and with the biggest budget on players and wages this season plus the biggest home and away support he has failed. If he can’t succeed in Non League football he is not remotely close to good enough to manage three divisions higher.karbota wrote:They finished 8th last season so???????????????????.YorkshireRoyal99 wrote:To be fair, yes, they should have got promoted this season. That within itself is a failure for the club.karbota wrote:
And of course, the two most successful clubs came first and second. Wrexham also reached the FA Trophy final and had the highest home National league attendance, and LOL you still think Parkys a failure.
Vanarama National League table
# Team Average
1. Wrexham 8,114
2. Notts County 6,836
3. Stockport County 6,019
4. Grimsby Town 5,974
Hi Kes xkarbota wrote:Link, please.NathStPaul wrote:Why are you talking to a racist?
Pepe the Horseman wrote:Hi Kes xkarbota wrote:Link, please.NathStPaul wrote:Why are you talking to a racist?
Here we go again more fake news, just check the Wrexham fans forum the majority want him to stay.Zip wrote:Yep with no money they finished 8th. Wrexham fans want him out. The style of football is awful and with the biggest budget on players and wages this season plus the biggest home and away support he has failed. If he can’t succeed in Non League football he is not remotely close to good enough to manage three divisions higher.karbota wrote:They finished 8th last season so???????????????????.YorkshireRoyal99 wrote:
To be fair, yes, they should have got promoted this season. That within itself is a failure for the club.
Just check the link and call out da Fakir.NathStPaul wrote:He's not going to shag you.
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