Olise

[Lower West]

For all his damage, many reputable staff members at the club are happy to go on record that Dai has never taken out a penny.

Why would Dai pull money out of a club he's personally funding. Illogical to suggest he would.

[One Beer is never enough.]

I'm confused, I thought it was confirmed over the last year that there wasn't a sell on clause - has this been debunked?

[Brogue]

I'm confused, I thought it was confirmed over the last year that there wasn't a sell on clause - has this been debunked?

Bowen said no. Some no marks on Twitter have said yes

[Clyde1998]

I'm confused, I thought it was confirmed over the last year that there wasn't a sell on clause - has this been debunked?

Bowen said no. Some no marks on Twitter have said yes

IIRC, it was mentioned in the FA charge regarding agent fees that there was a 10% sell on fee. I could be wrong though.

EDIT: The BBC article states: "A deal was expected to be complex, with Olise's release clause worth in the region of £60m, and percentages of any transfer due to Palace, the player himself, and his former club Reading".

[blythspartan]

With regards to a sell on clause for Olise weren’t we misreading the extract that appeared online. I was reading it as we’d get 10%, but I am sure someone pointed out that the 10% was in reference to his agent’s fee. Bowen had previously said there wasn’t one so who knows.

[Mid Sussex Royal]

For all his damage, many reputable staff members at the club are happy to go on record that Dai has never taken out a penny. So this Olise sell on will really help the club. Let's say it's £6m in total, I'd probably guess something like £3m up front and then £1m p.a., for 3 years.

Yes but Dai will likely ramp up the sale price

[Snowflake Royal]

I'm confused, I thought it was confirmed over the last year that there wasn't a sell on clause - has this been debunked?

Bowen said no. Some no marks on Twitter have said yes

IIRC, it was mentioned in the FA charge regarding agent fees that there was a 10% sell on fee. I could be wrong though.

EDIT: The BBC article states: "A deal was expected to be complex, with Olise's release clause worth in the region of £60m, and percentages of any transfer due to Palace, the player himself, and his former club Reading".

Yeah. Bowen has lied to us before.

And when players sell there's something about clubs who were part of youth development getting a slice. Which would be us, City and Chelsea

[Linden Jones' Tash]

It's being reported that Bayern will pay €60M
So that's around £50 minus the £8 means a sell on of around £4.2M...

Is that a reasonable assumption?

Even if it's deferred payments, it's known income so good news

[WestYorksRoyal]

For all his damage, many reputable staff members at the club are happy to go on record that Dai has never taken out a penny. So this Olise sell on will really help the club. Let's say it's £6m in total, I'd probably guess something like £3m up front and then £1m p.a., for 3 years.

Yes but Dai will likely ramp up the sale price

Yep. And fair enough. At least it's a known quantity now - a likely but still not certain windfall would definitely make negotiations tricky.

[Forbury Lion]

Highly unlikely to be a sell on clause when they triggered a minimum fee release.

I'm also pretty sure we would only get a development fee if he's sold abroad.

CBA to read though this thread and check I didn't alread reply, but....

On the Peter Crouch podcast, they were talking about contracts and I think it was Steve Sidwell who had a contract saying he could talk to any club that made an offer of £xM, one club did so Reading let him speak to that club, he agreed personal demands and went back to Reading and they said No, we won't sell you for less than £xxM, The contract just said we'd let you talk to any club that offered £xM and we've honoured that, now get back to work.

[Linden Jones' Tash]

https://talksport.com/football/1933624/ ... sfer-news/

Crystal Palace pundit is suggesting in this piece that 'Reading will get £7 or £8M'
Seems to be hearsay rather than actual ITK info

[Brogue]

Bowen said no. Some no marks on Twitter have said yes

IIRC, it was mentioned in the FA charge regarding agent fees that there was a 10% sell on fee. I could be wrong though.

EDIT: The BBC article states: "A deal was expected to be complex, with Olise's release clause worth in the region of £60m, and percentages of any transfer due to Palace, the player himself, and his former club Reading".

Yeah. Bowen has lied to us before.

And when players sell there's something about clubs who were part of youth development getting a slice. Which would be us, City and Chelsea

Well yeah there is lying, and then there is telling everyone in football we are about to get a windfall of dosh. just as we are trying to plead poverty with clubs doing us a favour loaning players to us for free, or negotiating contracts with existing players/freebies

[Snowflake Royal]

IIRC, it was mentioned in the FA charge regarding agent fees that there was a 10% sell on fee. I could be wrong though.

EDIT: The BBC article states: "A deal was expected to be complex, with Olise's release clause worth in the region of £60m, and percentages of any transfer due to Palace, the player himself, and his former club Reading".

Yeah. Bowen has lied to us before.

And when players sell there's something about clubs who were part of youth development getting a slice. Which would be us, City and Chelsea

Well yeah there is lying, and then there is telling everyone in football we are about to get a windfall of dosh. just as we are trying to plead poverty with clubs doing us a favour loaning players to us for free, or negotiating contracts with existing players/freebies

This isn't recent, and anyone in football can see the rules on development payments, hear insider info on contract details and see what's written in the judgement on us.

It's not like we are trying to sign anyone anyway.

[Brogue]

Yeah. Bowen has lied to us before.

And when players sell there's something about clubs who were part of youth development getting a slice. Which would be us, City and Chelsea

Well yeah there is lying, and then there is telling everyone in football we are about to get a windfall of dosh. just as we are trying to plead poverty with clubs doing us a favour loaning players to us for free, or negotiating contracts with existing players/freebies

This isn't recent, and anyone in football can see the rules on development payments, hear insider info on contract details and see what's written in the judgement on us.

It's not like we are trying to sign anyone anyway.

why would Bowen lie though? To what gain? there must be a reason he said what he said

[Snowflake Royal]

Well yeah there is lying, and then there is telling everyone in football we are about to get a windfall of dosh. just as we are trying to plead poverty with clubs doing us a favour loaning players to us for free, or negotiating contracts with existing players/freebies

This isn't recent, and anyone in football can see the rules on development payments, hear insider info on contract details and see what's written in the judgement on us.

It's not like we are trying to sign anyone anyway.

why would Bowen lie though? To what gain? there must be a reason he said what he said

I don't know, but he's done it before.

[Sutekh]

https://talksport.com/football/1933624/crystal-palace-michael-olise-replacement-transfer-news/

Crystal Palace pundit is suggesting in this piece that 'Reading will get £7 or £8M'
Seems to be hearsay rather than actual ITK info

Might be something in it, might explain why negotiations to buy the club seem to be floundering.

[dontbedaft]

Maybe, given that there was no immediate sign of Olise being sold at the time, Bowen didn't want Dai to get wind of this possibility for fear that it would further complicate things and could instead be a boost to an incoming regime if/when it did ever happen?

[Crusader Royal]

Maybe, given that there was no immediate sign of Olise being sold at the time, Bowen didn't want Dai to get wind of this possibility for fear that it would further complicate things and could instead be a boost to an incoming regime if/when it did ever happen?

It’s an outside possibility but Dai might just have lawyers who check things like contracts and keep him updated on little details like this.

[Snowflake Royal]

Maybe, given that there was no immediate sign of Olise being sold at the time, Bowen didn't want Dai to get wind of this possibility for fear that it would further complicate things and could instead be a boost to an incoming regime if/when it did ever happen?

It’s an outside possibility but Dai might just have lawyers who check things like contracts and keep him updated on little details like this.

[dontbedaft]

Just like they did on the Bearwood sale limitations?