Confrimed - Abbey and Holmes going

[Stranded]

Will Unwin
@Will_Unwin
Nelson Abbey is set to leave Reading to join Olympiakos, I am told
2:11 PM · Jan 19, 2024
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^ guardian journo

Ahead of signing for Forest at some point in the very near future.

[Stranded]

Will Unwin
@Will_Unwin
Nelson Abbey is set to leave Reading to join Olympiakos, I am told
2:11 PM · Jan 19, 2024
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^ guardian journo

So as he's out of contract in the summer and Olympiakos is not an English team - what does this mean regarding any compensation?

Nothing. If he goes now, it is a transfer, which would include a fee plus we apparently have an option on another year too.

If he was OOC, we would get close to zero comp from him leaving to go abroad.

[Linden Jones' Tash]

Will Unwin
@Will_Unwin
Nelson Abbey is set to leave Reading to join Olympiakos, I am told
2:11 PM · Jan 19, 2024
·
^ guardian journo

So as he's out of contract in the summer and Olympiakos is not an English team - what does this mean regarding any compensation?

Nothing. If he goes now, it is a transfer, which would include a fee plus we apparently have an option on another year too.

If he was OOC, we would get close to zero comp from him leaving to go abroad.

Very helpful thanks.

[Pepe the Horseman]

Will Unwin
@Will_Unwin
Nelson Abbey is set to leave Reading to join Olympiakos, I am told
2:11 PM · Jan 19, 2024
·
^ guardian journo

So as he's out of contract in the summer and Olympiakos is not an English team - what does this mean regarding any compensation?

Nothing. If he goes now, it is a transfer, which would include a fee plus we apparently have an option on another year too.

If he was OOC, we would get close to zero comp from him leaving to go abroad.

Biggest worry here is we put in a decent sell on clause, then Olympiakos sell him to Forest for pittance.

[morganb]

Even being reported in Greek press now:

https://twitter.com/Nikos_Kotsis/status ... 7183218750

@olympiacosfc
have been monitoring for some time and as it turns out England are buying from
@ReadingFC
the 20-year-old Anglo-Nigerian central defender Nelson Abey. Left-footed, athletic starter in the small national teams. Formal sentences & from #Luton , #Southampton
@NelsonAbbey03

[Stranded]

So as he's out of contract in the summer and Olympiakos is not an English team - what does this mean regarding any compensation?

Nothing. If he goes now, it is a transfer, which would include a fee plus we apparently have an option on another year too.

If he was OOC, we would get close to zero comp from him leaving to go abroad.

Biggest worry here is we put in a decent sell on clause, then Olympiakos sell him to Forest for pittance.

That is the concern and one could argue that transfers between clubs in the same multi-club network really need to be looked at. I know UEFA have put some ruling about deals between clubs in the same network if both are in European competition this season (can't transfer any player between then until Sep 24) but perhaps something needs to be rolled out across all leagues i.e. player cannot join club A in a network then transfer to club b in the same or next transfer window.

[Orion1871]

Even being reported in Greek press now:

https://twitter.com/Nikos_Kotsis/status ... 7183218750

@olympiacosfc
have been monitoring for some time and as it turns out England are buying from
@ReadingFC
the 20-year-old Anglo-Nigerian central defender Nelson Abey. Left-footed, athletic starter in the small national teams. Formal sentences & from #Luton , #Southampton
@NelsonAbbey03

What a load of bollocks. Forest have been monitoring him and because they're about to be hit with a points deduction they're owner is getting around it by buying him for Olympiacos.

[NathStPaul]

Even being reported in Greek press now:

https://twitter.com/Nikos_Kotsis/status ... 7183218750

@olympiacosfc
have been monitoring for some time and as it turns out England are buying from
@ReadingFC
the 20-year-old Anglo-Nigerian central defender Nelson Abey. Left-footed, athletic starter in the small national teams. Formal sentences & from #Luton , #Southampton
@NelsonAbbey03

What a load of bollocks. Forest have been monitoring him and because they're about to be hit with a points deduction they're owner is getting around it by buying him for Olympiacos.

It's clever business.

[Orion1871]

Even being reported in Greek press now:

https://twitter.com/Nikos_Kotsis/status ... 7183218750

What a load of bollocks. Forest have been monitoring him and because they're about to be hit with a points deduction they're owner is getting around it by buying him for Olympiacos.

It's clever business.

Didn't say it wasn't. We've done it ourselves.

In fact, one of the few clever things Dai has ever done in his life is send Aluko off to China for 6 months.

[Royalwaster]

It is funny how we have one of the leakiest defences in League 1 and a potent attack - and we're selling our defenders. I'd be more worried if Azeez, Smith or Wing were to leave.

[andrew1957]

It is very hard to see that RFC can stave off relegation if we lose a number of our best players, but if it staves off liquidation and Dai does eventually sell I guess we will at least have a club to support in L2 next season.

[WestYorksRoyal]

It is very hard to see that RFC can stave off relegation if we lose a number of our best players, but if it staves off liquidation and Dai does eventually sell I guess we will at least have a club to support in L2 next season.

Bolton are in fine shape after relegation to L2 4 years ago. Admittedly they seem to have lucked out with their new owners, who seem excellent in pretty much every way despite not being billionaires. But they show what can be done.

1st priority is ensuring we go into next season with new owners, as otherwise there may not be a next season. 2nd priority is the quality of owners, which is more important than the division we're playing in. If we can get both these things, being in L1 next season is great but it's not the priority.

If these sales keep us afloat and cutting cloth makes us more appealing to better suitors, so be it.

[blythspartan]

It is very hard to see that RFC can stave off relegation if we lose a number of our best players, but if it staves off liquidation and Dai does eventually sell I guess we will at least have a club to support in L2 next season.

Right now, I’d just settle for a club to support. Even if we end up in the National League.

Hopefully, if we are in League Two next season with a new owner we’d be able to get ourselves back up to League One fairly quickly, but I wouldn’t take anything for granted. Bradford have been stuck down there a fair while now.

[Brogue]

We will be a Titan in league 2. It’s going to be ace. A big reset that we need. Get rid of all the dead wood.

[andrew1957]

We will be a Titan in league 2. It’s going to be ace. A big reset that we need. Get rid of all the dead wood.

I am not expecting the great reset until we are in the National League South.

[tmesis]

It is very hard to see that RFC can stave off relegation if we lose a number of our best players, but if it staves off liquidation and Dai does eventually sell I guess we will at least have a club to support in L2 next season.

If we liquidate, it would probably be in the summer, and going down would make that more likely. If we have such high fixed costs that we can't break even in League One, we have no chance at all in league Two.

Who would buy a season ticket knowing we could fold before the season starts?

Really, if we aren't sold by the summer, and there are no on-going talks, I think Dai pulls the plug.

[Fezza]

It is very hard to see that RFC can stave off relegation if we lose a number of our best players, but if it staves off liquidation and Dai does eventually sell I guess we will at least have a club to support in L2 next season.

Can't help but feel that this is an unduly negative view of the situation in which we find ourselves. We were always going to sell when we were relegated and we were always going to have to continue to sell good young players who emerged (even without the financial shambles we are in), that is the lot of a lower league club. Personally I don't mind this as much as the staff leaving the academy, we have a number of defenders available - indeed we possibly have too many.

If the money from these allows us to off contracts to, or extend if the option is in the existing contract, Bindon or Craig then this is certainly a win. More so if we have a sell on.

Obviously I'd rather we shipped out NGW (if he's not going to be picked), Hutch or Dean, but I'm certain that they would generate little income / if any.

[WestYorksRoyal]

It is very hard to see that RFC can stave off relegation if we lose a number of our best players, but if it staves off liquidation and Dai does eventually sell I guess we will at least have a club to support in L2 next season.

Can't help but feel that this is an unduly negative view of the situation in which we find ourselves. We were always going to sell when we were relegated and we were always going to have to continue to sell good young players who emerged (even without the financial shambles we are in), that is the lot of a lower league club. Personally I don't mind this as much as the staff leaving the academy, we have a number of defenders available - indeed we possibly have too many.

If the money from these allows us to off contracts to, or extend if the option is in the existing contract, Bindon or Craig then this is certainly a win. More so if we have a sell on.

Obviously I'd rather we shipped out NGW (if he's not going to be picked), Hutch or Dean, but I'm certain that they would generate little income / if any.

I doubt even Nicky Hammond could sell Hutchinson and Dean, so no chance Pang can.

[Orion1871]

It is very hard to see that RFC can stave off relegation if we lose a number of our best players, but if it staves off liquidation and Dai does eventually sell I guess we will at least have a club to support in L2 next season.

Can't help but feel that this is an unduly negative view of the situation in which we find ourselves. We were always going to sell when we were relegated and we were always going to have to continue to sell good young players who emerged (even without the financial shambles we are in), that is the lot of a lower league club. Personally I don't mind this as much as the staff leaving the academy, we have a number of defenders available - indeed we possibly have too many.

If the money from these allows us to off contracts to, or extend if the option is in the existing contract, Bindon or Craig then this is certainly a win. More so if we have a sell on.

Obviously I'd rather we shipped out NGW (if he's not going to be picked), Hutch or Dean, but I'm certain that they would generate little income / if any.

The money is going to Dais bank account. RFC are unlikely to see a penny. He can't get his asking price so he's selling off all the most valuable assets and then selling the husk of the club for a few million.

[Fezza]

It is very hard to see that RFC can stave off relegation if we lose a number of our best players, but if it staves off liquidation and Dai does eventually sell I guess we will at least have a club to support in L2 next season.

Can't help but feel that this is an unduly negative view of the situation in which we find ourselves. We were always going to sell when we were relegated and we were always going to have to continue to sell good young players who emerged (even without the financial shambles we are in), that is the lot of a lower league club. Personally I don't mind this as much as the staff leaving the academy, we have a number of defenders available - indeed we possibly have too many.

If the money from these allows us to off contracts to, or extend if the option is in the existing contract, Bindon or Craig then this is certainly a win. More so if we have a sell on.

Obviously I'd rather we shipped out NGW (if he's not going to be picked), Hutch or Dean, but I'm certain that they would generate little income / if any.

The money is going to Dais bank account. RFC are unlikely to see a penny. He can't get his asking price so he's selling off all the most valuable assets and then selling the husk of the club for a few million.

Probably, but can I at least hope it's being used to secure other valuable assets that he can then make more out of? (obviously nothing has so far suggested this level of financial acumen)