BFTG - Forest away

[Snowflake Royal]

People need to get a grip on reality. We've signed two strikers and brought a third back from loan. We're not bringing in another. We clearly can't afford the millions it would cost to get a player of the calibre we want; and even then it'd be a gamble as to whether they would succeed.

Baldock has played less than a game and a half for us, and had little pre-season with us plus he didn't play much last year. He's going to take a little while to get up to speed.

McNulty has had a pre-season and played last year, but he hasn't played a lot with Bod or Baldock and he's making a big step up. He's also had less than half a game.

Meite is raw and making a decent step up. He's not played much with Bod or Baldock. He's played on the wing and a cameo upfront.

Bod has had very little pre-season and has a 1 in 2 strike rate so far.

Can we not give the team and these players at least five or six games to establish some form before we start writing them off?

[Hiram K Hackenbacker]

People need to get a grip on reality. We've signed two strikers and brought a third back from loan. We're not bringing in another. We clearly can't afford the millions it would cost to get a player of the calibre we want; and even then it'd be a gamble as to whether they would succeed.

Baldock has played less than a game and a half for us, and had little pre-season with us plus he didn't play much last year. He's going to take a little while to get up to speed.

McNulty has had a pre-season and played last year, but he hasn't played a lot with Bod or Baldock and he's making a big step up. He's also had less than half a game.

Meite is raw and making a decent step up. He's not played much with Bod or Baldock. He's played on the wing and a cameo upfront.

Bod has had very little pre-season and has a 1 in 2 strike rate so far.

Can we not give the team and these players at least five or six games to establish some form before we start writing them off?

I agree

[sandman]

It's not writing these players off to see that none of them are strikers a club at this level should have as first choice. They're all good second or third choice strikers that would supplement a squad but none of them are going to get the goals you need to get anywhere but mid table, if you're lucky.

Would question why we're signing players like Mcnulty that "need to make a big step up" when we have our own in house strikers that need to do the same and wouldn't cost us over a million pounds.

[Notts Royal]

Agree with Sandman. Snowflake I don’t think previous posters have been that critical of the signings, just pointing out why we didn’t win the game & areas we are deficient in.

No we don’t have the “millions” of other clubs in our league, but if we spent £3m or so (don’t believe it was the quoted £7m) on Sone Aluko, we could easily spend the quoted £1.5m on someone like Jerome - yes he’s a bit of a donkey but he can play as a lone striker & is at least an upgrade on Jon Dadi.

No one has faulted the effort shown by the team, which was a big improvement, and i actually think a Clement is the righ man to take this team forward.

I think you’re the one who needs to get a grip on your interpretations of this thread

[Snowflake Royal]

It's not writing these players off to see that none of them are strikers a club at this level should have as first choice. They're all good second or third choice strikers that would supplement a squad but none of them are going to get the goals you need to get anywhere but mid table, if you're lucky.

Would question why we're signing players like Mcnulty that "need to make a big step up" when we have our own in house strikers that need to do the same and wouldn't cost us over a million pounds.

Given the amount two of them have played at this level - meaning they're basically untried, and the fact one of them won promotion with Brighton, that's exactly what it is.

You don't need one player to score a boatload of goals to have a good season. Even if you have one player who scores a boatload, it doesn't mean you'll have a good season, and it certainly doesn't have to be a striker.

Why would any Reading fan have serious ambitions for anything above mid-table this season? Mid-table is exactly what we should be looking for.

[sandman]

It's not though. It's watching them, the evidence of their records before joining the club and recognising their rather obvious limitations.

[Royal_jimmy]

It's not just the strikers who are the problem.

Yesterday, we created the square root of sweet fa despite looking the better side at times. Whilst I do question if the strikers we signed will suit us, we can't score without creativity. At the moment we have none of that in this team. There's effort and huffing and puffing but there's just no quality.

I think survival is the best we can hope for and try to build on that for future seasons.

Next week vs Bolton, I want to see us take the game to them. If we go 1-0 up and are dominating, we need to kill the game off by getting a 2nd, 3rd, 4th. We can't keep a clean sheet so that's what we need to learn to do to win games.

[Pandoras Box]

People need to get a grip on reality.

Can we not give the team and these players at least five or six games to establish some form before we start writing them off?

As seems to be the norm in today’s world of debate, if someone disagrees with someone’s opinion, their alternative view is manipulated into a negative and anti whatever stance.
No one is writing off any players and no one has said that. Fact.
Bod may have scored a goal in two matches, but there were chances yesterday that he didn’t connect with that a natural poacher type striker may have. Fact

He worked hard and created a couple of chances off his own back but he’s never going to set the world alight, that’s all.
To falsely claim that a valid opinion of someone who witnessed the game yesterday as writing them off is rather unfair.
No one is looking for him to be benched or got rid of and I also don’t believe Baldock or McNulty got the opportunity to show their skills through the service that was offered.
That doesn’t immediately mean we need new strikers and to put everyone on the transfer list.

[Snowflake Royal]

People need to get a grip on reality.

Can we not give the team and these players at least five or six games to establish some form before we start writing them off?

As seems to be the norm in today’s world of debate, if someone disagrees with someone’s opinion, their alternative view is manipulated into a negative and anti whatever stance.
No one is writing off any players and no one has said that. Fact.
Bod may have scored a goal in two matches, but there were chances yesterday that he didn’t connect with that a natural poacher type striker may have. Fact

He worked hard and created a couple of chances off his own back but he’s never going to set the world alight, that’s all.
To falsely claim that a valid opinion of someone who witnessed the game yesterday as writing them off is rather unfair.
No one is looking for him to be benched or got rid of and I also don’t believe Baldock or McNulty got the opportunity to show their skills through the service that was offered.
That doesn’t immediately mean we need new strikers and to put everyone on the transfer list.

Except there literally are calls for a third striker to be loaned in and the new signings dismissed as not up to standard right here.

[3points]

Tammy Abraham anyone?

[bobby1413]

We'll know a lot more after the Bolton game. A game we should go into and grip up, get the chances and take them.

If we don't then it seems that not a lot has changed. If we go in and pass the ball around aimlessly until about 25 minutes in when Bolton realise we haven't got any striking power or intentions, they end up nicking the ball and scoring.

[The Royal Forester]

People need to get a grip on reality.

Can we not give the team and these players at least five or six games to establish some form before we start writing them off?

As seems to be the norm in today’s world of debate, if someone disagrees with someone’s opinion, their alternative view is manipulated into a negative and anti whatever stance.
No one is writing off any players and no one has said that. Fact.
Bod may have scored a goal in two matches, but there were chances yesterday that he didn’t connect with that a natural poacher type striker may have. Fact

He worked hard and created a couple of chances off his own back but he’s never going to set the world alight, that’s all.
To falsely claim that a valid opinion of someone who witnessed the game yesterday as writing them off is rather unfair.
No one is looking for him to be benched or got rid of and I also don’t believe Baldock or McNulty got the opportunity to show their skills through the service that was offered.
That doesn’t immediately mean we need new strikers and to put everyone on the transfer list.

You say "may have". That also means "may not have", so you are in effect saying a natural poacher type striker may have missed the same chances that Bod missed. THAT is a fact.

[BR0B0T]

We'll know a lot more after the Bolton game. A game we should go into and grip up, get the chances and take them.

If we don't then it seems that not a lot has changed. If we go in and pass the ball around aimlessly until about 25 minutes in when Bolton realise we haven't got any striking power or intentions, they end up nicking the ball and scoring.

MUST win game for Clement

[windermereROYAL]

We'll know a lot more after the Bolton game. A game we should go into and grip up, get the chances and take them.

If we don't then it seems that not a lot has changed. If we go in and pass the ball around aimlessly until about 25 minutes in when Bolton realise we haven't got any striking power or intentions, they end up nicking the ball and scoring.

MUST win game for Clement

Totally agree if we lose that we are down to our last 43 games to ensure survival.

[BR0B0T]

We'll know a lot more after the Bolton game. A game we should go into and grip up, get the chances and take them.

If we don't then it seems that not a lot has changed. If we go in and pass the ball around aimlessly until about 25 minutes in when Bolton realise we haven't got any striking power or intentions, they end up nicking the ball and scoring.

MUST win game for Clement

Totally agree if we lose that we are down to our last 43 games to ensure survival.

exactly!

[St Pauli]

MUST win game for Clement

Totally agree if we lose that we are down to our last 43 games to ensure survival.

exactly!

Hard to see us getting 45 points from those last 44 games to stay up.

[Hound]

Not really. Half the sides in the division are very average or worse. We just have to be a bit better than them

[CountryRoyal]

We'll know a lot more after the Bolton game. A game we should go into and grip up, get the chances and take them.

If we don't then it seems that not a lot has changed. If we go in and pass the ball around aimlessly until about 25 minutes in when Bolton realise we haven't got any striking power or intentions, they end up nicking the ball and scoring.

MUST win game for Clement

Totally agree if we lose that we are down to our last 43 games to ensure survival.

[Snowflake Royal]

Not really. Half the sides in the division are very average or worse. We just have to be a bit better than them

Oh Hound.

[tmesis]

anyone who was expecting anything more than mid table at best with this current rebuild is deluded.

I doubt too many were predicting a play-off push