Re Sodje's sending off......

[RoyalChicagoFC]

I don't care about how Arsenal performed.

Oh yes you do --oh yes you do...

[SpaceCruiser]

I don't care about how Arsenal performed.

Oh yes you do --oh yes you do...

Not in the context of this thread!

[Tony Le Mesmer]

The sending off was a joke because the referee completely failed to apply the laws of the game correctly.

Rooney was offside from the pass the preceeded the Sodje shirt pull/tug. The shirt pull/tug by Sodje therefore took place during inactive play & was therefore irrelevent. The referee was also incorrect to award a free kick to Man Utd.

Also, had Ronney been onside Sodje would not have had to make the 'foul' to prevent the attack that he was cautioned for.

Im not sure Sodje has served his ban yet as the paperwork would not have reached the FA by New Years day.

If the ref deemed it a yellow card offence then I don't think it matters if play is "inactive", otherwise people could trip, punch, etc other players at times when play is "inactive" with no fear of being booked or sent off.

The only issue is whether or not the pull on Rooney warranted a yellow card.

I see where your coming from as play doesn't have to be 'active' to send someone off for violent conduct say. A player can also receive a card after the final whistle has gone.

but in this instance the lineman had already indicated Rooney was offside. Any period of play after that is therefore 'Inactive' until the referee restarts play.

Lets say Ronney had skipped clear of Sodje and was brought down in the penalty area when about to shoot. Referee awards a pen & a red card. he then notices that the flag was already up (against Rooney) earlier in the same passage of play. (edit)

Whats the correct decision to make?

[SpaceCruiser]

Lets say Ronney had skipped clear of Sodje and was brought down in the penalty area when about to shoot. Referee awards a pen & a red card. he then notices that the flag was already up (against Rooney) for the earlier passage of play.

Whats the correct decision to make?

Offside and no red card.

[Tony Le Mesmer]

Lets say Ronney had skipped clear of Sodje and was brought down in the penalty area when about to shoot. Referee awards a pen & a red card. he then notices that the flag was already up (against Rooney) for the earlier passage of play.

Whats the correct decision to make?

Offside and no red card.

Not according to Mr Dean it isn't!

[SpaceCruiser]

Lets say Ronney had skipped clear of Sodje and was brought down in the penalty area when about to shoot. Referee awards a pen & a red card. he then notices that the flag was already up (against Rooney) for the earlier passage of play.

Whats the correct decision to make?

Offside and no red card.

Not according to Mr Dean it isn't!

He's a tosser, so whatever his views are, they don't count.

[Wycombe Royal]

Whilst you may be technically correct about pushing or holding, why is it we don't see a multitude of yellow cards everytime players take positions before a corner is taken?!

Common sense has to apply and clearly the merchant Dean has absolutely zero common sense. Furthermore he compounded his incompetent display by neither signalling for a foul nor indicating that he was allowing advantage at the time Sodje supposedly committed the offence, which 'earned' him the second yellow.

By the way, I have never said that the decision was correct, I was just looking at it from the point of view of the laws of the game.

[rg6royal]

but the thing was, the linesman had given offside.

[Wycombe Royal]

but the thing was, the linesman had given offside.

If you had read my comments you would have seen that the laws of game do not make a distinction between "inactive" and "active" and therefore it is up to the individual interpretation of the referee.