Selles not out

[blythspartan]

I still don’t understand why Selles alienated 3/4 players after one bad result away at Port Vale. If players have a bit of a go at each other or him, it at least shows they care. Once the dust had settled he should have told them to make up for it in the next game.

The problem was after the Millwall cup game there was a clamour from fans (me included) for him to stick with the youngsters and he duly obliged. In reality the game at Millwall was a probably a bit of a misleading result as not too many teams care about the competition until the latter rounds.

I have said it before, he needs to pick what he thinks is his best starting 11 and stick with them for a few games and use substitutes to affect the game when he needs to. The team needs to gel and players need to form an understanding all over the pitch. It would be great to get to a position where the team almost picks itself. The alternative is we will continuously see a disjointed team that plays in fits and starts.

[morganb]

NGW is by far the best option at left back.

Apparently the conversation after the Port Vale game went something like -


Selles: Nesta, from now on I want you to be left back every week.

NGW: Thanks boss

Selles: Yes, left back in the changing room

[Snowflake Royal]

Perhaps there's no answer. At the current time simply not good enough. Expecting a bunch of kids to be competitive in L1 from the off is unrealistic. The grind of the matches, the constant pressure, the protests , the results, the opposition. Will be sapping the mental energy from the group.

This is the same bunch of kids who beat Championship Millwall. And were competative against Cheltenham, Stevenage, Cambridge, Exeter and Bolton.

And we have other senior players who can play, Selles is ignoring them.

This. NGW is by far the best option at left back (I know, but then we know none of the options can defend) as he offers something fairly useful going forward but know we're stuck with the persistence that Carson is the answer (and he ultimately may be but over a long period) or that it's McIntyre or now that it's the superb Mola. Not looking forward to his next guess in that area.

Carson is basically a weaker, less experienced, more nervous NGW with a much bigger future if Selles doesn’t ruin him first.

More than any of the younger players, he needs to be slowly phased in under positive circumstances. Not chucked in at the deep end with a failing team to see if he drowns.

[Snowflake Royal]

I still don’t understand why Selles alienated 3/4 players after one bad result away at Port Vale. If players have a bit of a go at each other or him, it at least shows they care. Once the dust had settled he should have told them to make up for it in the next game.

The problem was after the Millwall cup game there was a clamour from fans (me included) for him to stick with the youngsters and he duly obliged. In reality the game at Millwall was a probably a bit of a misleading result as not too many teams care about the competition until the latter rounds.

I have said it before, he needs to pick what he thinks is his best starting 11 and stick with them for a few games and use substitutes to affect the game when he needs to. The team needs to gel and players need to form an understanding all over the pitch. It would be great to get to a position where the team almost picks itself. The alternative is we will continuously see a disjointed team that plays in fits and starts.

I don't think Millwall was a misleading result. It shows exactly what the squad is capable of when they're confident and get an early goal.

Don't get an early/the first goal, and go on a run of poor results and it's Charity FC as usual

[Hound]

The kids are the future of the team hopefully. I do agree Carson, Elliot, Savage etc have a higher ceiling than the likes of Knibbs, TMc, NGW, Holmes

But imo the current situation calls for that extra experience and Selles should use it. It won’t hold the u21 chaps back, as mentioned might help them even. Bring them back in as we stabilise

[Royalwaster]

This is the same bunch of kids who beat Championship Millwall. And were competative against Cheltenham, Stevenage, Cambridge, Exeter and Bolton.

And we have other senior players who can play, Selles is ignoring them.

This. NGW is by far the best option at left back (I know, but then we know none of the options can defend) as he offers something fairly useful going forward but know we're stuck with the persistence that Carson is the answer (and he ultimately may be but over a long period) or that it's McIntyre or now that it's the superb Mola. Not looking forward to his next guess in that area.

Carson is basically a weaker, less experienced, more nervous NGW with a much bigger future if Selles doesn’t ruin him first.

More than any of the younger players, he needs to be slowly phased in under positive circumstances. Not chucked in at the deep end with a failing team to see if he drowns.

Carson's crossing is superb ... but his defending and positioning is still developing.

[Millsy]

NGW is by far the best option at left back

Yeah one of the few positives from last season. Defensively he's 'developing' but makes up for it going forward.

[blythspartan]

I still don’t understand why Selles alienated 3/4 players after one bad result away at Port Vale. If players have a bit of a go at each other or him, it at least shows they care. Once the dust had settled he should have told them to make up for it in the next game.

The problem was after the Millwall cup game there was a clamour from fans (me included) for him to stick with the youngsters and he duly obliged. In reality the game at Millwall was a probably a bit of a misleading result as not too many teams care about the competition until the latter rounds.

I have said it before, he needs to pick what he thinks is his best starting 11 and stick with them for a few games and use substitutes to affect the game when he needs to. The team needs to gel and players need to form an understanding all over the pitch. It would be great to get to a position where the team almost picks itself. The alternative is we will continuously see a disjointed team that plays in fits and starts.

I don't think Millwall was a misleading result. It shows exactly what the squad is capable of when they're confident and get an early goal.

Don't get an early/the first goal, and go on a run of poor results and it's Charity FC as usual

It was a fantastic performance against a fairly strong Millwall team, but I’d still argue that the competition historically throws up some strange results in the early rounds. There’s often lots of giant killings and Champ and Prem clubs don’t take it seriously.

I remember us almost losing at home against Darlington back in September 2006. From memory Peter Mate scored a late equaliser and we won on penalties.

[Snowflake Royal]

This. NGW is by far the best option at left back (I know, but then we know none of the options can defend) as he offers something fairly useful going forward but know we're stuck with the persistence that Carson is the answer (and he ultimately may be but over a long period) or that it's McIntyre or now that it's the superb Mola. Not looking forward to his next guess in that area.

Carson is basically a weaker, less experienced, more nervous NGW with a much bigger future if Selles doesn’t ruin him first.

More than any of the younger players, he needs to be slowly phased in under positive circumstances. Not chucked in at the deep end with a failing team to see if he drowns.

Carson's crossing is superb ... but his defending and positioning is still developing.

Yeah, exactly what I meant. Weaker defensively, stronger going forward.

[Snowflake Royal]

I still don’t understand why Selles alienated 3/4 players after one bad result away at Port Vale. If players have a bit of a go at each other or him, it at least shows they care. Once the dust had settled he should have told them to make up for it in the next game.

The problem was after the Millwall cup game there was a clamour from fans (me included) for him to stick with the youngsters and he duly obliged. In reality the game at Millwall was a probably a bit of a misleading result as not too many teams care about the competition until the latter rounds.

I have said it before, he needs to pick what he thinks is his best starting 11 and stick with them for a few games and use substitutes to affect the game when he needs to. The team needs to gel and players need to form an understanding all over the pitch. It would be great to get to a position where the team almost picks itself. The alternative is we will continuously see a disjointed team that plays in fits and starts.

I don't think Millwall was a misleading result. It shows exactly what the squad is capable of when they're confident and get an early goal.

Don't get an early/the first goal, and go on a run of poor results and it's Charity FC as usual

It was a fantastic performance against a fairly strong Millwall team, but I’d still argue that the competition historically throws up some strange results in the early rounds. There’s often lots of giant killings and Champ and Prem clubs don’t take it seriously.

I remember us almost losing at home against Darlington back in September 2006. From memory Peter Mate scored a late equaliser and we won on penalties.

It was a pretty strong Millwall side though.

The league throws up a lot of weird results too.

[Snowflake Royal]

Prediction:
We don’t significantly improve
Increasing numbers of fans start calling for Selles head from game 14/15
By game 22-25 the majority think Selles should go
Dai is unresponsive
Selles goes, too late, around game 35
Bowen takes over.

[Millsy]

Prediction:
We don’t significantly improve
Increasing numbers of fans start calling for Selles head from game 14/15
By game 22-25 the majority think Selles should go
Dai is unresponsive
Selles goes, too late, around game 35
Bowen takes over.

Yep, pretty spot on. So sad that we could see this "copy & paste" reality a mile off. Groundhog Dai needs to **** off asap.

[Millsy]

Remember even a stopped clock is right twice a day.

Even Taxi got us a 4-0 win with Asaba scoring if I'm not mistaken. Perhaps it's the opposition being lax thinking they can easily beat you, or perhaps it's something magical you've done without knowing it, who knows.

The key is being able to identify and build on what brings these flashes of success otherwise they'll just pass you by like a random wave in the ocean and you remain lost at sea.

[South Coast Royal]

Remember even a stopped clock is right twice a day.

Even Taxi got us a 4-0 win with Asaba scoring if I'm not mistaken. Perhaps it's the opposition being lax thinking they can easily beat you, or perhaps it's something magical you've done without knowing it, who knows.

The key is being able to identify and build on what brings these flashes of success otherwise they'll just pass you by like a random wave in the ocean and you remain lost at sea.

I did read what Jake Cooper said about that game.
Broadly he said that his team, with a majority of first-teamers, just didn't turn up on the night.
It is looking like a freak result where only one team, albeit inexperienced, had the desire to win.

Let's hope that our boys can do the same on another day out in London this Saturday-if they don't, with the break of a couple of weeks then another away game we could be much closer to Cheltenham in the table than anybody else and Selles could well be sacked-it's what happens-see Sheffield Wednesday who similarly appointed a manager at the start of the season and told him there is no money, get on with it.

[Royal_jimmy]

I still don’t understand why Selles alienated 3/4 players after one bad result away at Port Vale. If players have a bit of a go at each other or him, it at least shows they care. Once the dust had settled he should have told them to make up for it in the next game.

The problem was after the Millwall cup game there was a clamour from fans (me included) for him to stick with the youngsters and he duly obliged. In reality the game at Millwall was a probably a bit of a misleading result as not too many teams care about the competition until the latter rounds.

I have said it before, he needs to pick what he thinks is his best starting 11 and stick with them for a few games and use substitutes to affect the game when he needs to. The team needs to gel and players need to form an understanding all over the pitch. It would be great to get to a position where the team almost picks itself. The alternative is we will continuously see a disjointed team that plays in fits and starts.

I don't think Millwall was a misleading result. It shows exactly what the squad is capable of when they're confident and get an early goal.

Don't get an early/the first goal, and go on a run of poor results and it's Charity FC as usual

The talent is certainly there in this team, we know that. We've had a few good results where we've looked a class above but we're also naive, the morass with Dai isn't helping them either.

[tmesis]

I still don’t understand why Selles alienated 3/4 players after one bad result away at Port Vale. If players have a bit of a go at each other or him, it at least shows they care. Once the dust had settled he should have told them to make up for it in the next game.

The problem was after the Millwall cup game there was a clamour from fans (me included) for him to stick with the youngsters and he duly obliged. In reality the game at Millwall was a probably a bit of a misleading result as not too many teams care about the competition until the latter rounds.

I have said it before, he needs to pick what he thinks is his best starting 11 and stick with them for a few games and use substitutes to affect the game when he needs to. The team needs to gel and players need to form an understanding all over the pitch. It would be great to get to a position where the team almost picks itself. The alternative is we will continuously see a disjointed team that plays in fits and starts.

I don't think Millwall was a misleading result. It shows exactly what the squad is capable of when they're confident and get an early goal.

Don't get an early/the first goal, and go on a run of poor results and it's Charity FC as usual

The talent is certainly there in this team, we know that. We've had a few good results where we've looked a class above but we're also naive, the morass with Dai isn't helping them either.

Naive is probably the key word.

If you take the Burton game, it was a game we should have won.

Failure to do so wasn't down to poor tactics, the wrong formation, the wrong team selection or bad substitutions. It was down to the players making mistakes.

It doesn't matter who we have as manager, this set of players will make those same mistakes. People seem to be looking at our best performances and concluding that's the level these players should be playing at. That's just unrealistic.

[Hound]

I don't think Millwall was a misleading result. It shows exactly what the squad is capable of when they're confident and get an early goal.

Don't get an early/the first goal, and go on a run of poor results and it's Charity FC as usual

The talent is certainly there in this team, we know that. We've had a few good results where we've looked a class above but we're also naive, the morass with Dai isn't helping them either.

Naive is probably the key word.

If you take the Burton game, it was a game we should have won.

Failure to do so wasn't down to poor tactics, the wrong formation, the wrong team selection or bad substitutions. It was down to the players making mistakes.

It doesn't matter who we have as manager, this set of players will make those same mistakes. People seem to be looking at our best performances and concluding that's the level these players should be playing at. That's just unrealistic.

Yes. Northampton was down to errors the same - Button, Carson at the back, Azeez, Ballard, Knibbs, arguably Kelv should have done better up top

Cambridge away - no idea how Knibbs misses that chance at the end etc. Exeter last minute defeat.

Blackpool is the only game I think you could say the set up and tactics were all wrong

[Sutekh]

If the club is sold Selles will probably be out the door whatever as a new regime will possibly want "their man" so unless Selles has got the results turned round and stabilised he'll have no chance of remaining. Equally if results have gone down the tubes and show no signs of picking up he'll more than likely have to stay on until the club is finally sold as would anyone want the job with a possible take over looming?

[Millsy]

If the club is sold Selles will probably be out the door whatever as a new regime will possibly want "their man" so unless Selles has got the results turned round and stabilised he'll have no chance of remaining. Equally if results have gone down the tubes and show no signs of picking up he'll more than likely have to stay on until the club is finally sold as would anyone want the job with a possible take over looming?

Yeah we may even already be there. Someone already here would be the realistic option.

On the other hand would/could Dai think to get a half-decent manager in sooner rather than later, in a bid to pull us away from L2 relegation certs thereby increase the worth of the club? But this is Dai we’re talking about, likely built his wealth through corruption and has the business acumen of a dog with an oven glove on its head.

[SouthDownsRoyal]

Colin is free