BFTG - Wigan

[CountryRoyal]

Our goal difference is twice as good as Huddersfield.

Actually quite good from you

[Jack Celliers]

To those who keep saying, "but we got the three points"....


Well from now on with a two legged affair, where three points is meaningless, our goal difference suggests we will lose easily in the play offs.

Not to get all snowball on anyone, but we specialise at picking up points in one goal wins at home, so beating teams by one goal at home and taking a heavy defeat away from home isn't going to cut it in the play offs.

I'm glad our season is now in play off mode, and it seems we will most likely finish 3rd, which obviously by definition says we are the 3rd best team in the league, but in reality all it means is that we are the 3rd best team at generating results, which is not the same as being the 3rd best team, by any stretch of the imagination.

I fully expect us to win by one goal at home, but that will be too little too late because we will have lost by more away.

But there you go, go on Reading surprise me!



p.s. to all the teachers on this board, is it normal that so many people on this forum type "should of" when they mean "should have"?
I'm 30 so perhaps i'm already old, but i'm fairly sure my teachers at school would have knocked such an elementary misunderstanding of English out of me. Am i wrong?

You would have probably got away with 'would of' at school as internet pedantry is quite a new thing. Twenty years ago all the express checkouts said 'ten items or less' and nobody gave a toss.

[Ian Royal]

I think 'would of' is the last thing for teachers to worry about considering some of the quality of English I see on a regular basis.

[leon]

I think 'would of' is the last thing for teachers to worry about considering some of the quality of English I see on a regular basis.

Which is interesting as the standard of grammar and spelling the jnr leons have to achieve at school is way beyond what I was doing at their ages

[Ian Royal]

I think 'would of' is the last thing for teachers to worry about considering some of the quality of English I see on a regular basis.

Which is interesting as the standard of grammar and spelling the jnr leons have to achieve at school is way beyond what I was doing at their ages

I suspect we're of a similar age which would mean you're in the generation that weren't taught grammar.

And the difference between bright kids (who've had the parental support) and those who struggle can be staggering.

[Hound]

Fair play to the lad that got injured - great message from him on GR. Sure everyone at Reading wishes him the best on his recovery

[leon]

I think 'would of' is the last thing for teachers to worry about considering some of the quality of English I see on a regular basis.

Which is interesting as the standard of grammar and spelling the jnr leons have to achieve at school is way beyond what I was doing at their ages

I suspect we're of a similar age which would mean you're in the generation that weren't taught grammar.

And the difference between bright kids (who've had the parental support) and those who struggle can be staggering.

I was taught grammar and spelling etc and the difference between them and now is considerable. Maths as well. It's scary.

[leon]

I think 'would of' is the last thing for teachers to worry about considering some of the quality of English I see on a regular basis.

Which is interesting as the standard of grammar and spelling the jnr leons have to achieve at school is way beyond what I was doing at their ages

I suspect we're of a similar age which would mean you're in the generation that weren't taught grammar.

And the difference between bright kids (who've had the parental support) and those who struggle can be staggering.

I was taught grammar and spelling etc and the difference between them and now is considerable. Maths as well. It's scary.

[percy_freeman]

Could you imagine what Aguero or Delli Alli would of done to us today. But we did our job. Onwards and Upwards. Life as a Reading fan is always going to be a blast!

What about lukaku and Sanchez?

Walcott and Rashford?

How about King and Vardy?

What about them?

[Dennis the Butler]

Could you imagine what Aguero or Delli Alli would of done to us today. But we did our job. Onwards and Upwards. Life as a Reading fan is always going to be a blast!

What about lukaku and Sanchez?

Walcott and Rashford?

How about King and Vardy?

Not to mention the guys from Bournemouth !

[Ark Royal]

Which is interesting as the standard of grammar and spelling the jnr leons have to achieve at school is way beyond what I was doing at their ages

I suspect we're of a similar age which would mean you're in the generation that weren't taught grammar.

And the difference between bright kids (who've had the parental support) and those who struggle can be staggering.

I was taught grammar and spelling etc and the difference between them and now is considerable. Maths as well. It's scary.

If you think that is scary, cop this from the Play Off Odds thread. My grammar/spelling/syntax alarm is still ringing.

We will loose and Fulham will won the playoffs there the best team

[Nameless]

Fair play to the lad that got injured - great message from him on GR. Sure everyone at Reading wishes him the best on his recovery

I have been massively impressed with the way Wigan have dealt with this.
The comments from Graham Barrow and Mac Donald have been extremely grownup, which in the petty world of football is pretty rare.
People like Jose and Warnock could take a lesson.

Hope MacDonald makes a full recovery for next season. He deserves t get back playing asap.

[Victor Meldrew]

BR I'm bemused that you think people should only post if they agree with people.
Surely if GWL is entitled to make his point (which he is) , others are entitled to disagree with him. Which I did, in what I thought was a reasonable way with at least an attempt to back up my thoughts.
Why do you think no one who disagreed with him should be allowed to post ? Didn't think you would be one for shutting down debate...

It was directed more at our resident, Kelvin Mckenzie, Littlejohn, i.e. Woodcote who chose to blast away at Great Western in his normal offensive way rather than at you.
Am alll for debate but people like him and a few others don't seem to want to do that..

[RoyalBlue]

I think 'would of' is the last thing for teachers to worry about considering some of the quality of English I see on a regular basis.

Which is interesting as the standard of grammar and spelling the jnr leons have to achieve at school is way beyond what I was doing at their ages

I suspect we're of a similar age which would mean you're in the generation that weren't taught grammar.

And the difference between bright kids (who've had the parental support) and those who struggle can be staggering.

Not sure when the rot set in (although it was after my time at school) but it has led to situations like the BBC TV Breakfast programme spelling 'Economic Forecast' as 'Economic Forcast' on their backdrop the other morning!

Furthermore, judging from the output of GetReading and similar media organisations, an ability to spell and comply with basic grammatical conventions is no longer a prerequisite for journalists.

[RoyalBlue]

Fair play to the lad that got injured - great message from him on GR. Sure everyone at Reading wishes him the best on his recovery

I have been massively impressed with the way Wigan have dealt with this.
The comments from Graham Barrow and Mac Donald have been extremely grownup, which in the petty world of football is pretty rare.
People like Jose and Warnock could take a lesson.

Hope MacDonald makes a full recovery for next season. He deserves t get back playing asap.

Barrow's comments soon after the game were somewhat more critical, including the fact that Evans was very lucky to get away with just a yellow card. However, they were presumably said in the heat of the moment and he was good and big enough to change his view later (perhaps after he had seen footage of the tackle). MacDonald's reaction to Evans, before he was stretchered off, was superb, reaching out to shake his hand and put his arm around the back of his neck in a friendly hug. I really hope he makes a full and very rapid recovery.

[Sutekh]

Wonderful response from Shaun Macdonald thanking those that looked after him and saying George shouldn't blame himself for the challenge and to make sure Reading get promoted.

http://www.getreading.co.uk/sport/footb ... r-12970131

[MouldyRoyal]

Which is interesting as the standard of grammar and spelling the jnr leons have to achieve at school is way beyond what I was doing at their ages

I suspect we're of a similar age which would mean you're in the generation that weren't taught grammar.

And the difference between bright kids (who've had the parental support) and those who struggle can be staggering.

Not sure when the rot set in (although it was after my time at school) but it has led to situations like the BBC TV Breakfast programme spelling 'Economic Forecast' as 'Economic Forcast' on their backdrop the other morning!

Furthermore, judging from the output of GetReading and similar media organisations, an ability to spell and comply with basic grammatical conventions is no longer a prerequisite for journalists.

Yeah because no one made a spelling mistake before the invention of the internet.

[genome]

Not sure when the rot set in (although it was after my time at school) but it has led to situations like the BBC TV Breakfast programme spelling 'Economic Forecast' as 'Economic Forcast' on their backdrop the other morning!

there*

[Elm Park Kid]

The play offs are just a lottery - any team can beat any other team on their day. It just depends what sort of mentality we have going into them.

If Reading did go up though I think we could be looking at Derby levels of embarrassment unless at least half of the team is replaced.

[Vision]

To those who keep saying, "but we got the three points"....


Well from now on with a two legged affair, where three points is meaningless, our goal difference suggests we will lose easily in the play offs.

Not to get all snowball on anyone, but we specialise at picking up points in one goal wins at home, so beating teams by one goal at home and taking a heavy defeat away from home isn't going to cut it in the play offs.

I'm glad our season is now in play off mode, and it seems we will most likely finish 3rd, which obviously by definition says we are the 3rd best team in the league, but in reality all it means is that we are the 3rd best team at generating results, which is not the same as being the 3rd best team, by any stretch of the imagination.

I fully expect us to win by one goal at home, but that will be too little too late because we will have lost by more away.

But there you go, go on Reading surprise me!

Another way to look at it is that I expect the play-offs to be tense, tight nervy affairs. Generally speaking we have shown over the course of the season that we win far more of these games. I'd actually prefer to play the Home leg first to give us the best chance. A tight win at home effectively gives us an early lead in the away fixture. We don't lose many when we get our noses in front.

Then IF we make the final I fancy our "style" to be very effective in a one off game at Wembley.

RTG's on full obviously but really I'd say there's as much evidence to suggest we'll be fine as there is fearing the worst on the evidence of a handful of heavy defeats in a 46 game season.