Likes and dislikes

[tmesis]

100%. I tend to read the term 'bottled' or 'choked' and just assume that the contributor is simple.

Is there a term you would deem acceptable for someone (or a team) who's competed well below their ability level due to the pressure of the occasion?

What you are describing there is bottling it. My dislike was anyone losing at something being described as bottling it no matter how the loss came about

Agreed. "Bottling" is about making mistakes or freezing under pressure, not just failing to succeed.

[BROB0T]

Is there a term you would deem acceptable for someone (or a team) who's competed well below their ability level due to the pressure of the occasion?

What you are describing there is bottling it. My dislike was anyone losing at something being described as bottling it no matter how the loss came about

Agreed. "Bottling" is about making mistakes or freezing under pressure, not just failing to succeed.

What's the test for bottling it...rather than just being outplayed or using the wrong tactics or just not doing it that night for some other reason (fatigue, injuries etc)

[Sanguine]

100%. I tend to read the term 'bottled' or 'choked' and just assume that the contributor is simple.

Is there a term you would deem acceptable for someone (or a team) who's competed well below their ability level due to the pressure of the occasion?

What you are describing there is bottling it. My dislike was anyone losing at something being described as bottling it no matter how the loss came about

Exactly. 'Bottled it' has come to be used to mean 'lost'.

[Green]

If you're strong favourites going in to the tie I think you can usually make a case for "bottling" it.

Or if you're a perennial nearly man - Jimmy White anyone?

Indeed frequent occasions of "bottling" it can label you a "bottlejob". Sometimes perhaps unfairly but there we are - sport can be cruel.

[Franchise FC]

And that leads me to one of my favourite recent commentator quotes :

“Football, bloody hell”
Gary Neville - 22/05/2022

[Winston Biscuit]

the seemingly never ending promoting of a players brand resulting in things like short videos of them running or in the gym during the summer along with comments like 'hard work never rests'

[TiagoIlori]

The comments section on twitter posts seem to get worse and worse every year.

[Winston Biscuit]

dislikes: the handful of players who are only ever referred to by their full name. Barry Bannon has been the king of this for the past decade but Solly March looks like taking his crown

[Franchise FC]

dislikes: the handful of players who are only ever referred to by their full name. Barry Bannon has been the king of this for the past decade but Solly March looks like taking his crown

'Trent' does the same for me

[6ft Kerplunk]

dislikes: the handful of players who are only ever referred to by their full name. Barry Bannon has been the king of this for the past decade but Solly March looks like taking his crown

'Trent' does the same for me

+10000000000
I know its a lot of syllables for Carragher to cope with but use his surname.

[Winston Biscuit]

Assist stats annoy me enough already but this 'goal involvement' stat which is done to pretend an assist has equal value as a goal actual has me on the verge of anger

[Royal Rother]

dislikes: the handful of players who are only ever referred to by their full name. Barry Bannon has been the king of this for the past decade but Solly March looks like taking his crown

Ha! Never thought about that but yeah, weird how that happens.

Thinking back, Micah Richards may have been one.

[NathStPaul]

Dislike: The lack of showmanship on display in the Premier League. Not a fan of everything when it comes to the NFL but I do enjoy the pomp and ceremony pre-game. Would really like home sides in the Premier League to have their own entrance themes to come out the tunnel to or specific player entrance, get the away team out first to a chorus of boos etc.

[BraisingsteakRoyal]

Skewed football statistics and graphs. e.g. "This is what the league would look like if it started in June." Or, "Leading goalscorers since Erling Haaland returned from injury (away games only)".

Makes no sense whatsoever. It's for people who like simple, colourful bar graphs (and to see Liverpool at the top of the league again*)

[Winston Biscuit]

dislikes: the handful of players who are only ever referred to by their full name. Barry Bannon has been the king of this for the past decade but Solly March looks like taking his crown

'Trent' does the same for me

'Jack'

[NathStPaul]

Think it was Glenn Hoddle when he used to do a lot of commentary that used to piss me off calling every player by their first name.

[Hendo]

Skewed football statistics and graphs. e.g. "This is what the league would look like if it started in June." Or, "Leading goalscorers since Erling Haaland returned from injury (away games only)".

Makes no sense whatsoever. It's for people who like simple, colourful bar graphs (and to see Liverpool at the top of the league again*)

Agree to an extent. I don’t necessarily mind: “Since player x entered the league they’ve got more goals/assists than anyone else, here’s the rest” but yeah any convoluted ones can get in the bin.

[NathStPaul]

On a slightly different note, is Paul Gascoigne the only prominent English player to be better known and referred to by their nickname? Probably missing someone obvious.

[Hendo]

On a slightly different note, is Paul Gascoigne the only prominent English player to be better known and referred to by their nickname? Probably missing someone obvious.

Maybe Becks?

Although loads of people will still know him/refer to him as "Beckham"

[NathStPaul]

On a slightly different note, is Paul Gascoigne the only prominent English player to be better known and referred to by their nickname? Probably missing someone obvious.

Maybe Becks?

Although loads of people will still know him/refer to him as "Beckham"

I guess Stuart Pearce would qualify. I definitely remember him being referred to as "Psycho" on commentary and in punditry. Not sure you'd get away with that nickname today.