Squad Watch 2022/23

[NewCorkSeth]

We're fcuked.

I missed this

Good evening Sethmondo.

Good even'

It's wonderful to be able to come back here to see nothing has changed!

[Zip]

I missed this

Good evening Sethmondo.

Good even'

It's wonderful to be able to come back here to see nothing has changed!

Where have you been my darling?

[NewCorkSeth]

Good evening Sethmondo.

Good even'

It's wonderful to be able to come back here to see nothing has changed!

Where have you been my darling?

Studying the fine art of being toxic and vehemently incorrect on twitter. All practise for my triumphant return to HNA.

[YorkshireRoyal99]

Or you can spin it to make it sound like something it's not?

Laurent has been poor for 18 months bar the last 10-ish games under Ince, Rino has barely played and when he was, hasn't been great.

But yes, we didn't miss someone who hasn't played well, when available, that's usually how it works. It's not like Rino every came in and we were suddenly good again.

Hasn't Josh Laurent only been at the club 24 months? He's been poor for 18 of those months? Are you sure about that?

And was PotS first time out wasn’t he?

Yiadom was player of the season this time around, doesn't mean he had a good season per say, just not as bad as the rest.

I know that's not strictly true with Laurent but, as I mentioned, had an excellent opening 6 months of the season, tailed off massively towards the back end of the season like what most players did.

Still, going back to my original point, disappointed but not distraught to lose either of them. Would have liked them to have stayed, but not concerned that they haven't.

[NathStPaul]

Hasn't Josh Laurent only been at the club 24 months? He's been poor for 18 of those months? Are you sure about that?

And was PotS first time out wasn’t he?

Yiadom was player of the season this time around, doesn't mean he had a good season per say, just not as bad as the rest.

I know that's not strictly true with Laurent but, as I mentioned, had an excellent opening 6 months of the season, tailed off massively towards the back end of the season like what most players did.

Still, going back to my original point, disappointed but not distraught to lose either of them. Would have liked them to have stayed, but not concerned that they haven't.

He didn't "tail off massively". I know that line of thinking suits your narrative but you're just completely wrong on this, why can you not just admit that?

[Snowflake Royal]

Confusing team and player. Players who tail off massively don't win PotS. See Swift this season. Joao the previous year.

[YorkshireRoyal99]

You can't just keep picking out certain lines of what I've said and then make something else up. As said, like most of the team, he did tail off, which may explain why he won POTS. He still deserved POTS in that season, I'm not questioning that, but he wasn't performing as well as he was in the first 25-ish games of the season.

The difference with Swift last season was, most of the team didn't tail off, they actually picked up, see Laurent himself, Drinkwater, Holmes improved somewhat etc.

But to reiterate, as the point doesn't seem to be sticking yet, I'm not too disappointed to lose Laurent and Rino as neither have been that great for the last 12-18 months, when they've been available (in the case of Rino).

[Nameless]

You can't just keep picking out certain lines of what I've said and then make something else up. As said, like most of the team, he did tail off, which may explain why he won POTS. He still deserved POTS in that season, I'm not questioning that, but he wasn't performing as well as he was in the first 25-ish games of the season.

The difference with Swift last season was, most of the team didn't tail off, they actually picked up, see Laurent himself, Drinkwater, Holmes improved somewhat etc.

But to reiterate, as the point doesn't seem to be sticking yet, I'm not too disappointed to lose Laurent and Rino as neither have been that great for the last 12-18 months, when they've been available (in the case of Rino).

Until we know how they are being replaced it seems daft not to feel disappointed at losing Laurent, Rino and Swift.
Currently they leave us hugely weaker than we would be if they had stayed
If whoever replaces them is not as good then the disappointment remains.
To feel we are better off without them, or that they won’t missed just cannot be rationalised at this point. If we sign 2- 3 good replacements then ok, but if we end up with a 32 year old Albanian , an 18 year old released by Norwich and a 27 year old on his 12th club then I’ll be disappointed they went....

[YorkshireRoyal99]

You can't just keep picking out certain lines of what I've said and then make something else up. As said, like most of the team, he did tail off, which may explain why he won POTS. He still deserved POTS in that season, I'm not questioning that, but he wasn't performing as well as he was in the first 25-ish games of the season.

The difference with Swift last season was, most of the team didn't tail off, they actually picked up, see Laurent himself, Drinkwater, Holmes improved somewhat etc.

But to reiterate, as the point doesn't seem to be sticking yet, I'm not too disappointed to lose Laurent and Rino as neither have been that great for the last 12-18 months, when they've been available (in the case of Rino).

Until we know how they are being replaced it seems daft not to feel disappointed at losing Laurent, Rino and Swift.
Currently they leave us hugely weaker than we would be if they had stayed
If whoever replaces them is not as good then the disappointment remains.
To feel we are better off without them, or that they won’t missed just cannot be rationalised at this point. If we sign 2- 3 good replacements then ok, but if we end up with a 32 year old Albanian , an 18 year old released by Norwich and a 27 year old on his 12th club then I’ll be disappointed they went....

Yeah I don't necessarily disagree, but I'd prefer to look more positively than not. Ultimately, we've lost a top player in Swift who performs in purple patches, Rino who missed most of last season and hasn't been that great for 18 months when he has featured and Laurent who ended the season well but has also been part of a poor midfield for 12-18 months as well in the main, it's not a complete disaster. Made it clear I'm disappointed, but not distraught, to lose them as it means having to plug those gaps.

Agree as well, who we end up with will go a long way to determine if they will be missed, but I don't think that matters because the decision of all 3 to leave was taken out of our hands anyway as all 3 are out of contract and all 3 are moving on to pastures new. I don't think there is a point in having any regret to them leaving as that wasn't in our control.

[Zip]

Confusing team and player. Players who tail off massively don't win PotS. See Swift this season. Joao the previous year.

I don’t know how many goals and assists Swift managed this year but it wasn’t very many. He was really poor defensively too. Brilliant in the first half of the season but he really dropped off in 2022.

[Simon's Church]

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Confusing team and player. Players who tail off massively don't win PotS. See Swift this season. Joao the previous year.

I don’t know how many goals and assists Swift managed this year but it wasn’t very many. He was really poor defensively too. Brilliant in the first half of the season but he really dropped off in 2022.

Not sure if you're joking but he was our top scorer with 11 and second most assists in the league with 13.

Edit: realised youre talking about 2022, not the season

[Zip]

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Confusing team and player. Players who tail off massively don't win PotS. See Swift this season. Joao the previous year.

I don’t know how many goals and assists Swift managed this year but it wasn’t very many. He was really poor defensively too. Brilliant in the first half of the season but he really dropped off in 2022.

Not sure if you're joking but he was our top scorer with 11 and second most assists in the league with 13.

How many of those goals and assists were in 2022? I am talking about this year.

[Simon's Church]

Yeah realised after I'd posted, 3 goals and 4 assists in 2022. Which would have made him our 3rd top scorer and given him joint most assists with Laurent across the entire season

[PATRIQT]

Cracking news about several of the U23's getting new deals. Camera and Scott two of the most exciting, and who'll be around the first-team this season.

[Zip]

Yeah realised after I'd posted, 3 goals and 4 assists in 2022. Which would have made him our 3rd top scorer and given him joint most assists with Laurent across the entire season

Two of the three goals were pens. It’s a pretty ordinary return for the second half of the season. Our midfield was almost non existent at times from January onwards. That’s not all on Swift but he certainly wasn’t in the side for the defensive side of his game.

[Snowflake Royal]

Updated:


Academy players
Actively looking to move on

Goalkeeper
Lumley
Southwood
Andresson
Boyce-Clarke

Fullbacks
Yiadom
Abrefa
Samuels

Centrebacks
Dann
McIntyre
Holmes
Moore
Dorsett
Abbey
Stickland

Midfield
Tetek
Osorio
Craig

Wide
Ejaria
Meite
T Ince
Camara
Scott
Leavy(?)

Strikers
Joao
Puscas
Melvin-Lambert
Ehibhatiomhan


Plus offers to Hoilett, Clarke and Azeez[/quote]

[JR]

Is there a formation where you don’t need to use central midfielders?

I’m sure Pep could think of one.

[Zip]

Central midfield is now a major issue. Need incomings here in the next few weeks.

[royalp-we]

Might well be seeing quite a bit of Michael Craig in CM. Made the squad for a couple of Spurs Europa League games last year.

[Brogue]

Rino confirms his exit on social media.