Hard to see any progress for the forseeable future

[Samrfc01]

Being a yo-yo club would definately be a step up for us. But, at the moemnt, we are ging to be far off that.
Our away form is abysmal and we are relying on our home form ( which is surprisingly good).

Why is our away form so bad tho?
Yes i know we are likely to perform slightly worse than at home but its like watching 2 different teams

[papereyes]

Eh? Wolves have been in the championship since neolithic times haven't they?

Well, since 2003/4, anyway. I seem to remember a certain play-off run they had.

OK fair enough, but once in about 20 odd years is more of a squashed ping-pong ball than a yo-yo.

Given that they were in the bottom tier more recently than we were, I'm thinking 'partially filled balloon'.

[Terminal Boardom]

We are at the moment safe in the championship.

3 points above a relegation spot? OK its only mid September but seeing Premiership Years for last season on Sky a few nights back and at times the league table looked really good.

What worries me is that it took Coppell a long time to realise changes were needed last season. This last defeat and he says changes are needed. Just dont expect a knee jerk reaction as he doesnt do them. One or two at the most will change.

[papereyes]

We are at the moment safe in the championship.

3 points above a relegation spot? OK its only mid September but seeing Premiership Years for last season on Sky a few nights back and at times the league table looked really good.

I don't think it ever did. One look at our Jan and Feb would have sent the fear of god into you.

[Denver Royal]

Why is our away form so bad tho?

Because we don't have a central midfielder a la Sids...and we haven't had for about 2 years even though he was supposedly 'replaceable'.

And we don't have a quality tall striker for when we hoof it...which we do away from home.

And we haven't even hit the cold weather/bad pitches of Winter up norfff yet.

We're now in physical division, but we aren't a physical side. We are lightweight. If we're going to make any hay on the road this season, it should be now. But we aren't.

[Archie's penalty]

Why is our away form so bad tho?

Because we don't have a central midfielder a la Sids...and we haven't had for about 2 years even though he was supposedly 'replaceable'.

And we haven't even hit the cold weather/bad pitches of Winter up norfff yet.

I still can't believe Coppell didn't get anyone in during the summer.

Matejovsky and Harper will not be strong enough for the battle in this league.

2000 again! Yay!

[RoyalBlue]

To put it in simple terms, the achievements RFC made during the 2005/2006 and 06/07 seasons won't be bettered. Therefore you are living in hope of seeibng something not as good as you have already witnessed.

Dead end club, like every other yo yo club.........

If that's your attitude go and support someone like Chelsea or ManUtd - where were you when we were in Div2 etc.? Dead-end club?! We've had the most amazing success over the last 3 seasons - and this season we might have to get used to other doing better than us. So what? We're financially very sound, we've got a good academy, with players starting to come through, we've got a great stadium, just shame about some of the fickle fans.

Because, of course, living on your past achievements contributes so much to ensuring your future success!

What's more, last year was amazingly successful wasn't it! (cue crap about it being our second highest ever finish!).

[Avon Royal]

Being a yo-yo club would definately be a step up for us. But, at the moemnt, we are ging to be far off that.
Our away form is abysmal and we are relying on our home form ( which is surprisingly good).

Why is our away form so bad tho?
Yes i know we are likely to perform slightly worse than at home but its like watching 2 different teams

All down to confidence.

Away we have none. Blame squarely at the door of Mr Motivator.

[Deathy]

I think we need to get used to mid table championship football at the very best until there is a sea change at this club.

Madejski - clearly, his heart is not in it to the extent it was previously. He would love to sell out but can't find a buyer. He will keep the club sound and stable but has no intention of investing further funds or trying to push the club forwards.

Coppell - if the spirit of the championship had survived, he would definately have been the right man for the job, but it hasn't. The chairman is not fully behind it anymore, many players have left to pursue their own self interest and many still here would like to leave. The golden team has long gone and we have to move on and build a new team. Coppell doesn't, IMHO, have the hunger to do this.

Whilst not being a member of the carpark squad, I applauded their actions as, at the time it was the right thing to do. Had we known that the spirit of the championship side was already totally dead, in hindsight, we should have let Coppell go and started afresh.

As for Madejski, there are some on here who would happily see us drift downwards whilst improving/maintaining our balance sheet in the belief that the rest of football will meltdown around us and we will emerge as one of the last men standing. They are rather like people who build nuclear bunkers in their back garden. Much as I admire and appreciete what Madejski has done, I don't see how the club can go forward with him at the helm and would now like to see someone new who wants to move things forward.

Can't see either leaving anytime soon so supporting Reading's going to be a whole lot duller and uninspiring than in recent years

Couldn't agree more Schards.

I too am a big fan of Steve Coppell and I backed the guys and gals that went out of their way to show Coppell we wanted him to stay, but I wonder should we have let him start a fresh?

He hasn't become a bad manager over night, of course not, but yes, his hunger is questionable and so is his continued loyalty to some members of that squad.

It almost feels like we need someone to come in and shake the team up. Shout at them, scream at them, make them work hard for their place again.

The team is so paper thin it almost picks itself.

I just wonder if a new manager with new ideas, hunger, enthusiasm and the ability to look at the squad with a fresh pair of eyes, would that have been best? I'm starting to think yes it would have.

I love what SC has done for this football club. It's still almost unbelievable when you look at those three seasons, but I am starting to think change is needed. I'll hate the day he leaves though, but do wonder if it's what we need now.

The chairman? You're spot on. No need to add to that.

[Platypuss]

The team is so paper thin it almost picks itself.

Disagree there. Plenty of players and plenty of cover in most positions. Shame they're just all so unremittingly average.

[Wycombe Royal]

Hardly. £13 million sold, £1.5 million bought is not a freshening up, it's a firesale.

Do you know what a fire sale is? Obviously not so I'll help you:

fire sale - a sale of assets at very low prices typically when the seller faces bankruptcy

Do you still think it was a fire sale?

When players "turn on a sixpence", there isn't actually a sixpence there.

Don't be so stupid and I would expect more from you.

I gave you the definition of a firesale and neither part of it fits in with Reading.

1) We haven't sold players on the cheap, if anything we have got more than they are worth.
2) We are not facing bankruptcy

You are just using key words that you think heighten your argument even if they are totally inappropriate and have very little relevance.

Yes we have sold assets but but we haven't sold many assets and we have got more than a fair price for them.

[Dave the rave]

Yo, ma Bluds.

I is thinking wiv 'ad 2 yo's of the yo-yo already.
If we go up dis season that'll be yo, yo, yo.
When we go down the season after we'll have a full yo, yo, yo, yo set.

Relax, yo?

[SpaceCruiser]

This is a ridiculous thread and I agree with Wycombe that we haven't had a "firesale". Absolutely ridiculous from an unremittingly negative poster like Schards. I don't call 4 players out for a few million a "firesale".

This will be my only post on this thread. Enjoy it.

[Alan Partridge]

This is a ridiculous thread and I agree with Wycombe that we haven't had a "firesale". Absolutely ridiculous from an unremittingly negative poster like Schards. I don't call 4 players for a few million out a "firesale".

This will be my only post on this thread. Enjoy it.

Well there is some progress at least.

[Wycombe Royal]

This is a ridiculous thread and I agree with Wycombe that we haven't had a "firesale". Absolutely ridiculous from an unremittingly negative poster like Schards. I don't call 4 players for a few million out a "firesale".

This will be my only post on this thread. Enjoy it.

Well there is some progress at least.

[Archie's penalty]

I have sat on the fence about the whole Madejski thing but what with the Ashley debacle and the darkening financial times it would be madness and terrible for the club if he were to leave...

[The 17 Bus]

Mr Madjeski wont leave, it seems he has got the bank balance restructured from the Prem money, and lets be honest we are still not a known club that someone is going to come in and pay high money for.

There are a dozen clubs in and around us that have more potential, and thats what an investor in football looks for, not crowds of 24-000 and little history.

S'ton, Leicester, Coventry, either Sheff club, Forest, Wolves, WBA to name a few.

[SpaceCruiser]

S'ton, Leicester, Coventry,

Hmmm, they've been in adminstration recently. I don't think investors would want to take on clubs that are heavily in debt.

[The 17 Bus]

And they come out almost debt free.

[Wycombe Royal]

S'ton, Leicester, Coventry,

Hmmm, they've been in adminstration recently. I don't think investors would want to take on clubs that are heavily in debt.

You sir, are a liar.

I will never believe anything you say ever again.