The Manager Sack Race/Merry-go-Round

[From Despair To Where?]

Tudor with a marginally longer reign than Lady Jane Grey

1 day less than Liz Truss but in fairness to Tudor, he didn't get a week off after killing his boss.

[South Coast Royal]

Tudor with a marginally longer reign than Lady Jane Grey

1 day less than Liz Truss but in fairness to Tudor, he didn't get a week off after killing his boss.

But, as far as I know, he hasn't come up with a nice cup of tea.

[6ft Kerplunk]

Tudor with a marginally longer reign than Lady Jane Grey

1 day less than Liz Truss but in fairness to Tudor, he didn't get a week off after killing his boss.

He did get a few extra days cos his dad died though.

[SouthDownsRoyal]

Hodgson? That's one of the oddest appointments I've ever seen.

What are the club's thoughts behind it?

Why is he taking it?

I suppose he might be missing football but I find the whole thing a bit weird.

Why not? No pressure of relegation no worry of being in a promotion battle and a decent amount of money.

[Royal Rother]

Hodgson? That's one of the oddest appointments I've ever seen.

What are the club's thoughts behind it?

Why is he taking it?

I suppose he might be missing football but I find the whole thing a bit weird.

Why not? No pressure of relegation no worry of being in a promotion battle and a decent amount of money.

He’s 78 years old and a multi-millionaire.

Another few hundred grand for a few months’ work isn’t going to make any difference to his lifestyle or what he can pass on to his son.

We are all different - maybe he’s an absolute pain to live with without work and his Mrs wants him out of the house, but the little I’ve seen of him since he retired he’s looked a relaxed and happy man, so it just seems odd to go back to the daily grind.

[SouthDownsRoyal]

Hodgson? That's one of the oddest appointments I've ever seen.

What are the club's thoughts behind it?

Why is he taking it?

I suppose he might be missing football but I find the whole thing a bit weird.

Why not? No pressure of relegation no worry of being in a promotion battle and a decent amount of money.

He’s 78 years old and a multi-millionaire.

Another few hundred grand for a few months’ work isn’t going to make any difference to his lifestyle or what he can pass on to his son.

We are all different - maybe he’s an absolute pain to live with without work and his Mrs wants him out of the house, but the little I’ve seen of him since he retired he’s looked a relaxed and happy man, so it just seems odd to go back to the daily grind.

True, but if you love the game and are offered (100k)? To manage a club for six or seven games with absolutely no risk or downside for a couple of months I would whether you need the money or not.

The baffling thing to me is what are Bristol city thinking? You can’t go up or down why bother with all this knowing it’s 100pc only for half a dozen games

[Stranded]

Why not? No pressure of relegation no worry of being in a promotion battle and a decent amount of money.

He’s 78 years old and a multi-millionaire.

Another few hundred grand for a few months’ work isn’t going to make any difference to his lifestyle or what he can pass on to his son.

We are all different - maybe he’s an absolute pain to live with without work and his Mrs wants him out of the house, but the little I’ve seen of him since he retired he’s looked a relaxed and happy man, so it just seems odd to go back to the daily grind.

True, but if you love the game and are offered (100k)? To manage a club for six or seven games with absolutely no risk or downside for a couple of months I would whether you need the money or not.

The baffling thing to me is what are Bristol city thinking? You can’t go up or down why bother with all this knowing it’s 100pc only for half a dozen games

Yeah that's the strange thing, it just seems like a waste of money. I can understand getting rid of your manager if targets haven't been met etc but why not just give one of the coaches you are already paying the chance to pick the team for the few dead rubbers you have whilst you work to hire the next perm coach and use the 100k or so spent on Hodgson on bumping up the potential wage offer to attract a better candidate.

Unless, Hodgson is somehow in the frame to take on the role next season.

[SouthDownsRoyal]

He’s 78 years old and a multi-millionaire.

Another few hundred grand for a few months’ work isn’t going to make any difference to his lifestyle or what he can pass on to his son.

We are all different - maybe he’s an absolute pain to live with without work and his Mrs wants him out of the house, but the little I’ve seen of him since he retired he’s looked a relaxed and happy man, so it just seems odd to go back to the daily grind.

True, but if you love the game and are offered (100k)? To manage a club for six or seven games with absolutely no risk or downside for a couple of months I would whether you need the money or not.

The baffling thing to me is what are Bristol city thinking? You can’t go up or down why bother with all this knowing it’s 100pc only for half a dozen games

Yeah that's the strange thing, it just seems like a waste of money. I can understand getting rid of your manager if targets haven't been met etc but why not just give one of the coaches you are already paying the chance to pick the team for the few dead rubbers you have whilst you work to hire the next perm coach and use the 100k or so spent on Hodgson on bumping up the potential wage offer to attract a better candidate.

Unless, Hodgson is somehow in the frame to take on the role next season.

Indeed, he seems adamant it’s only this season and for the reasons you rightly raise I can’t see him wanting anything more.

Each team gets a payment based on their finishing position so you wouldn’t want to lose most of your last games but yes, must be someone already there who could do a job for a couple of months.

[South Coast Royal]

People speak about "doing a job" and indeed a coach could do that to just keep things ticking over.
Maybe the idea is for an old hand to make some kind of strategic review of all the different aspects of the club and 6 weeks should be long enough as well as weighing up the quality of the playing staff over the 7 games to come

It wouldn't surprise me if he stayed longer or had a big part in bringing in a new manager for next season.or worked alongside a young coach
He doesn't strike me as the sort to have a big ego and would be happy to pass on his experience..

[Winston Biscuit]

De Zerbi officially in at Spurs

[Winston Biscuit]

Tottenham Hotspur Supporters' Trust held an emergency board meeting on Monday night over the appointment of Roberto de Zerbi.

BBC Sport can reveal it has told the club it cannot support the appointment due to comments about Mason Greenwood

[Snowflake Royal]

He’s 78 years old and a multi-millionaire.

Another few hundred grand for a few months’ work isn’t going to make any difference to his lifestyle or what he can pass on to his son.

We are all different - maybe he’s an absolute pain to live with without work and his Mrs wants him out of the house, but the little I’ve seen of him since he retired he’s looked a relaxed and happy man, so it just seems odd to go back to the daily grind.

True, but if you love the game and are offered (100k)? To manage a club for six or seven games with absolutely no risk or downside for a couple of months I would whether you need the money or not.

The baffling thing to me is what are Bristol city thinking? You can’t go up or down why bother with all this knowing it’s 100pc only for half a dozen games

Yeah that's the strange thing, it just seems like a waste of money. I can understand getting rid of your manager if targets haven't been met etc but why not just give one of the coaches you are already paying the chance to pick the team for the few dead rubbers you have whilst you work to hire the next perm coach and use the 100k or so spent on Hodgson on bumping up the potential wage offer to attract a better candidate.

Unless, Hodgson is somehow in the frame to take on the role next season.

Maybe there's been some sort of toxic breakdown in relations or gross misconduct where it's easier to pay him out the door and get someone in temporarily whilst you work through the longer term plan.

[Stranded]

Tottenham Hotspur Supporters' Trust held an emergency board meeting on Monday night over the appointment of Roberto de Zerbi.

BBC Sport can reveal it has told the club it cannot support the appointment due to comments about Mason Greenwood

Didn't he literally only say something like, he was saddened about what happened to him in England as the person he met was a very different person to the one portrayed.

Whilst Greenwood appears to have been a nasty little shit (allegedly) and if he did hit his girlfriend that is as low as you can pretty much go, I'm not sure I see the issue with De Zerbi's comments on meeting him and getting to know him in a work capacity. People who do shit things can still be/become pleasant people.

[Winston Biscuit]

Tottenham Hotspur Supporters' Trust held an emergency board meeting on Monday night over the appointment of Roberto de Zerbi.

BBC Sport can reveal it has told the club it cannot support the appointment due to comments about Mason Greenwood

Didn't he literally only say something like, he was saddened about what happened to him in England as the person he met was a very different person to the one portrayed.

Whilst Greenwood appears to have been a nasty little shit (allegedly) and if he did hit his girlfriend that is as low as you can pretty much go, I'm not sure I see the issue with De Zerbi's comments on meeting him and getting to know him in a work capacity. People who do shit things can still be/become pleasant people.

De Zerbi said Greenwood was "a good person. it saddens me what happened to him because I know a very different person from the one portrayed in England”

I don't really see much wrong with what he said tbh. His job is to form good relationships with individuals and create a strong team spirit, and his comment is about his own experience of working with MG.

Spurs Supporters Trust saying they have 'serious and far-reaching concerns' about De Zerbi over his comments.

get over yourselves Spurs Supporters Trust!

[Stranded]

Didn't he literally only say something like, he was saddened about what happened to him in England as the person he met was a very different person to the one portrayed.

Whilst Greenwood appears to have been a nasty little shit (allegedly) and if he did hit his girlfriend that is as low as you can pretty much go, I'm not sure I see the issue with De Zerbi's comments on meeting him and getting to know him in a work capacity. People who do shit things can still be/become pleasant people.

De Zerbi said Greenwood was "a good person. it saddens me what happened to him because I know a very different person from the one portrayed in England”

I don't really see much wrong with what he said tbh. His job is to form good relationships with individuals and create a strong team spirit, and his comment is about his own experience of working with MG.

Spurs Supporters Trust saying they have 'serious and far-reaching concerns' about De Zerbi over his comments.

get over yourselves Spurs Supporters Trust!

Quite - its not like he has come out and said, he's a right lad, absolutely no way he's done it - boys a ledge. Just spoken about his experience of meeting/working with him and his sadness - now yes the phrasing "what happened to him" could be problematic as you could argue it is painting him as the victim but if this was said in English it is not De Zerbi's first language or it may even be just a poor translation.

[6ft Kerplunk]

People speak about "doing a job" and indeed a coach could do that to just keep things ticking over.
Maybe the idea is for an old hand to make some kind of strategic review of all the different aspects of the club and 6 weeks should be long enough as well as weighing up the quality of the playing staff over the 7 games to come

It wouldn't surprise me if he stayed longer or had a big part in bringing in a new manager for next season.or worked alongside a young coach
He doesn't strike me as the sort to have a big ego and would be happy to pass on his experience..

This was my thinking too SCR, wouldn't be surprised to see him in a director of football\consultant type role after the season finishes. They might just want someone with a bit of standing in the game to take a pragmatic approach on who to release or sign in case they don't have a manager in place by the end of the season. They don't want to get to the end of June with half a squad and a new manager desperately trying to get players in.

[Uke]

Whilst Greenwood appears to have been a nasty little shit (allegedly) and if he did hit his girlfriend that is as low as you can pretty much go, I'm not sure I see the issue with De Zerbi's comments on meeting him and getting to know him in a work capacity. People who do shit things can still be/become pleasant people.

Joey Barton started a philosophy degree in 2015 to help him develop empathy and self-awareness to become the better person that he is today
https://www.tntsports.co.uk/football/jo ... tory.shtml


Oh...

[Stranded]

Whilst Greenwood appears to have been a nasty little shit (allegedly) and if he did hit his girlfriend that is as low as you can pretty much go, I'm not sure I see the issue with De Zerbi's comments on meeting him and getting to know him in a work capacity. People who do shit things can still be/become pleasant people.

Joey Barton started a philosophy degree in 2015 to help him develop empathy and self-awareness to become the better person that he is today
https://www.tntsports.co.uk/football/jo ... tory.shtml


Oh...

As I said, they can become not they will or do become. Sometimes shits remain shits until they are flushed away.

[Winston Biscuit]

I had completely missed that a couple of weeks back Ashley Cole was appointed manager of Cesena in Italy

They are currently 8th in Serie B, which might be good enough for a play off spot

[Snowflake Royal]

Didn't he literally only say something like, he was saddened about what happened to him in England as the person he met was a very different person to the one portrayed.

Whilst Greenwood appears to have been a nasty little shit (allegedly) and if he did hit his girlfriend that is as low as you can pretty much go, I'm not sure I see the issue with De Zerbi's comments on meeting him and getting to know him in a work capacity. People who do shit things can still be/become pleasant people.

De Zerbi said Greenwood was "a good person. it saddens me what happened to him because I know a very different person from the one portrayed in England”

I don't really see much wrong with what he said tbh. His job is to form good relationships with individuals and create a strong team spirit, and his comment is about his own experience of working with MG.

Spurs Supporters Trust saying they have 'serious and far-reaching concerns' about De Zerbi over his comments.

get over yourselves Spurs Supporters Trust!

Good people don’t beat their partners snd what is sad is what happened to her, not him.