SpuROFLs

[Stranded]

They won't go down - I predict that it will go to the last day, Spurs will need a win and a controversial late winner will see them safe.

[leon]

They won't go down - I predict that it will go to the last day, Spurs will need a win and a controversial late winner will see them safe.

not sure - both West Ham and Forest have something to go for as Leeds aren't out of the woods

[6ft Kerplunk]

If Spurs did go down, surely it would be without parallel? Big clubs like Leeds, Newcastle and Villa have been relegated, but Spurs have been close to the summit in the past decade where the financial gap between the "haves" and "have nots" has grown drastically compared to the other examples mentioned. They have one of the best and most lucrative stadiums in Europe and have the commercial income that reflects the aforementioned disparities that now exist in the game.

I think it would be a significantly bigger story than all previous "big club" relegations.

They're competing in the Champions League this season too. The other big clubs going down haven't been in the Champions League in their relegation season and most were slower declines than we've seen with Tottenham. Leeds was fairly quick, but that was caused by poor finances, whilst Tottenham have some of the best financials in the world.

It could well be one of the biggest from any major footballing nation, not just England. There have been some big relegations in Germany (Schalke; Hamburg; Bremen) and Spain (Espanyol; Atletico; Sociedad) this century. None of these are directly comparable to Tottenham either.

The biggest club from a top European league that's been relegated (biggest at the time of relegation) appears to be when Milan got relegated in 1982, but that came a season after a promotion when they were demoted to Serie B for match fixing.

I do feel Tottenham would financially dominate the Championship to the point of easily winning the title though, in a similar way to how Birmingham did so in League One.

Saw a BBC article about a potential £261m decline in their revenues (about 43% lower than being in the Premier League) if they did end up going down though. A projected revenues of £348m, on top of player sales, would mean no-one could even come close to competing. Apparently they've got 50% relegation wage drop clauses in their contracts too.

I'd imagine our points record would be under threat.

I know we're supposed to think the football in this country began with Sky and teh Premier League but Man U getting relegated in the 70s surely counts as the biggest club to get relegated.

[AthleticoSpizz]

….and indeed Spurs themselves back in 1977

[BRO_BOT]

If Spurs did go down, surely it would be without parallel? Big clubs like Leeds, Newcastle and Villa have been relegated, but Spurs have been close to the summit in the past decade where the financial gap between the "haves" and "have nots" has grown drastically compared to the other examples mentioned. They have one of the best and most lucrative stadiums in Europe and have the commercial income that reflects the aforementioned disparities that now exist in the game.

I think it would be a significantly bigger story than all previous "big club" relegations.

They're competing in the Champions League this season too. The other big clubs going down haven't been in the Champions League in their relegation season and most were slower declines than we've seen with Tottenham. Leeds was fairly quick, but that was caused by poor finances, whilst Tottenham have some of the best financials in the world.

It could well be one of the biggest from any major footballing nation, not just England. There have been some big relegations in Germany (Schalke; Hamburg; Bremen) and Spain (Espanyol; Atletico; Sociedad) this century. None of these are directly comparable to Tottenham either.

The biggest club from a top European league that's been relegated (biggest at the time of relegation) appears to be when Milan got relegated in 1982, but that came a season after a promotion when they were demoted to Serie B for match fixing.

I do feel Tottenham would financially dominate the Championship to the point of easily winning the title though, in a similar way to how Birmingham did so in League One.

Saw a BBC article about a potential £261m decline in their revenues (about 43% lower than being in the Premier League) if they did end up going down though. A projected revenues of £348m, on top of player sales, would mean no-one could even come close to competing. Apparently they've got 50% relegation wage drop clauses in their contracts too.

I'd imagine our points record would be under threat.

I know we're supposed to think the football in this country began with Sky and teh Premier League but Man U getting relegated in the 70s surely counts as the biggest club to get relegated.

That was before football was invented in '92...doesn't count!

[Sanguine]

Fwiw, Celta Vigo are the only side ever to have been relegated in a season in which they have played Champions League football. They finished fourth in La Liga the season before, to qualify for the Champions League for the first time in their history. They were to finish 19th in La Liga - whilst coming second in a Champions League group that included Milan, Ajax and Club Brugge. They went out to Arsenal in R16.

Stat from United's relegation season 1973-74. Goalkeeper Alex Stepney was their joint top scorer - as their penalty taker - until the 23rd league game of the season.

[6ft Kerplunk]

The worst thing about this season is that Wolves and Burnley are so poor we've been robbed on both Spurs and West Ham being relegated in the same season.

[genome]

They won't go down - I predict that it will go to the last day, Spurs will need a win and a controversial late winner will see them safe.

There is no fight, the players don't give a fcuk. I would be surprised if Spurs are not relegated at this point

[Winston Biscuit]

I still think they will stay up. Would be #scenes if they go though, hence why I will cheer it on for the LOLz

[BRO_BOT]

I still think they will stay up. Would be #scenes if they go though, hence why I will cheer it on for the LOLz

+1, Not sure who I want to win it out of City and Arsenal. Would normally be obvious, but I really dislike the way Arsenal have been playing

[WestYorksRoyal]

If Spurs did go down, surely it would be without parallel? Big clubs like Leeds, Newcastle and Villa have been relegated, but Spurs have been close to the summit in the past decade where the financial gap between the "haves" and "have nots" has grown drastically compared to the other examples mentioned. They have one of the best and most lucrative stadiums in Europe and have the commercial income that reflects the aforementioned disparities that now exist in the game.

I think it would be a significantly bigger story than all previous "big club" relegations.

They're competing in the Champions League this season too. The other big clubs going down haven't been in the Champions League in their relegation season and most were slower declines than we've seen with Tottenham. Leeds was fairly quick, but that was caused by poor finances, whilst Tottenham have some of the best financials in the world.

It could well be one of the biggest from any major footballing nation, not just England. There have been some big relegations in Germany (Schalke; Hamburg; Bremen) and Spain (Espanyol; Atletico; Sociedad) this century. None of these are directly comparable to Tottenham either.

The biggest club from a top European league that's been relegated (biggest at the time of relegation) appears to be when Milan got relegated in 1982, but that came a season after a promotion when they were demoted to Serie B for match fixing.

I do feel Tottenham would financially dominate the Championship to the point of easily winning the title though, in a similar way to how Birmingham did so in League One.

Saw a BBC article about a potential £261m decline in their revenues (about 43% lower than being in the Premier League) if they did end up going down though. A projected revenues of £348m, on top of player sales, would mean no-one could even come close to competing. Apparently they've got 50% relegation wage drop clauses in their contracts too.

I'd imagine our points record would be under threat.

I know we're supposed to think the football in this country began with Sky and teh Premier League but Man U getting relegated in the 70s surely counts as the biggest club to get relegated.

Back to eras though, the financial gulf between the biggest and the rest in the 1970s was nothing like it is now. Man Utd's relegation then doesn't come close in terms of financial advantages squandered.

[genome]

Telegraph reporting that Tudor could be replaced

#DycheIn

[Clyde1998]

I know we're supposed to think the football in this country began with Sky and teh Premier League but Man U getting relegated in the 70s surely counts as the biggest club to get relegated.

In terms of scale of the club probably, although (as pointed out by WestYorksRoyal) their relative revenue was nothing like Tottenham's today. Their revenues are around 2.5x that of West Ham's (9th highest in the Premier League).

[Royality creeps In]

Tottenham might be the first ever team to rest their players in a Champions League KO round for the relegation battle on the weekend

[From Despair To Where?]

Telegraph reporting that Tudor could be replaced

#DycheIn

Worst caretaker since Ian Huntley

<ducks for cover>

[From Despair To Where?]

If Spurs did go down, surely it would be without parallel? Big clubs like Leeds, Newcastle and Villa have been relegated, but Spurs have been close to the summit in the past decade where the financial gap between the "haves" and "have nots" has grown drastically compared to the other examples mentioned. They have one of the best and most lucrative stadiums in Europe and have the commercial income that reflects the aforementioned disparities that now exist in the game.

I think it would be a significantly bigger story than all previous "big club" relegations.

They're competing in the Champions League this season too. The other big clubs going down haven't been in the Champions League in their relegation season and most were slower declines than we've seen with Tottenham. Leeds was fairly quick, but that was caused by poor finances, whilst Tottenham have some of the best financials in the world.

It could well be one of the biggest from any major footballing nation, not just England. There have been some big relegations in Germany (Schalke; Hamburg; Bremen) and Spain (Espanyol; Atletico; Sociedad) this century. None of these are directly comparable to Tottenham either.

The biggest club from a top European league that's been relegated (biggest at the time of relegation) appears to be when Milan got relegated in 1982, but that came a season after a promotion when they were demoted to Serie B for match fixing.

I do feel Tottenham would financially dominate the Championship to the point of easily winning the title though, in a similar way to how Birmingham did so in League One.

Saw a BBC article about a potential £261m decline in their revenues (about 43% lower than being in the Premier League) if they did end up going down though. A projected revenues of £348m, on top of player sales, would mean no-one could even come close to competing. Apparently they've got 50% relegation wage drop clauses in their contracts too.

I'd imagine our points record would be under threat.

I know we're supposed to think the football in this country began with Sky and teh Premier League but Man U getting relegated in the 70s surely counts as the biggest club to get relegated.

If you want to go back further, Man City got relegated in the 30s as defending league champions

[Dirk Gently]

And substituting a goalkeeper after 17 minutes??!!???!!!!

Just utterly inexplicable! - and potentially career-destroying for Kinsky.

Bringing in Tudor seems to be a worse and worse move with every game played.

[Winston Biscuit]

by worse I assume you mean funnier?

[bakerlou]

I can remember Scott Howie being subbed off at HT (by Pardew IIRC) in an away game at Wycombe. Bringing on Peter van der Kwaak as his replacement only seemed to make it worse. I don't remember Howie playing again, not for us at least. Wycombe played native American war chant music after each goal they scored (they got five that day).

[Sutekh]

I can remember Scott Howie being subbed off at HT (by Pardew IIRC) in an away game at Wycombe. Bringing on Peter van der Kwaak as his replacement only seemed to make it worse. I don't remember Howie playing again, not for us at least. Wycombe played native American war chant music after each goal they scored (they got five that day).

In 1999. Howie was OK as a keeper but his confidence was probably shot at that time. Kwaak was even worse generally as I remember and unsurprisingly one of Alan Pardew’s first moves was to sign a goalkeeper (Phil Whitehead) at pretty much around the time this game was played.