Season ticket prices 25/26

[Brogue]

placeholder for next seasons season ticket prices. The announcement can't be far off surely. What are peoples guesses? frozen prices, or will rob bump them up?

[Sutekh]

Expecting a 5% - 10% increase.

[Hendo]

Would imagine they will be frozen. If they're going up, can't see them going up more than £25

[Esteban]

I think there has to be a rise in the prices. Hopefully only small, but Sutekh's suggestion sounds about right. A friend of mine thinks ticket prices should be reduced to encourage a full stadium, but we all know it's the football on offer and ultimately results that attracts people to watch games.

[RG30]

Pre takeover prices were to be held for renewals. They were due to go on-sale a few weeks back but that was postponed for understandable reasons.

However as we will be under new ownership imminently that could easily change and the new ownership group may want to increase them.

[Linden Jones' Tash]

Given the club financials, I'm gonna guess an overhaul in pricing - with the equivalent of a significant increase in ticket prices.

I reckon the days of subsidised STs are gone...

[RG30]

Also another thread on it https://hobnob.royals.org/forum/viewtop ... 2&t=192022

[tidus_mi2]

Hopefully we don't see any increase at all, think individual ticket prices should remain in the range of £20-£25 and a season ticket should come out on average £2-£5 cheaper than that, so £414-£529 but would lean towards the cheaper side, just think football tickets aren't something that you can really justify increasing "because, inflation".

[Linden Jones' Tash]

Hopefully we don't see any increase at all, think individual ticket prices should remain in the range of £20-£25 and a season ticket should come out on average £2-£5 cheaper than that, so £414-£529 but would lean towards the cheaper side, just think football tickets aren't something that you can really justify increasing "because, inflation".

I don't think it would be "because, inflation"

The justification will be, "I bought a club losing millions of pounds a year and need to reduce those losses"

It's part of making the club more sustainable, which everyone says they want....

[tidus_mi2]

Hopefully we don't see any increase at all, think individual ticket prices should remain in the range of £20-£25 and a season ticket should come out on average £2-£5 cheaper than that, so £414-£529 but would lean towards the cheaper side, just think football tickets aren't something that you can really justify increasing "because, inflation".

I don't think it would be "because, inflation"

The justification will be, "I bought a club losing millions of pounds a year and need to reduce those losses"

It's part of making the club more sustainable, which everyone says they want....

There are other ways to reduce costs/increase revenues without milking fans, the only nation that seems to have worked this out is Germany.

[Linden Jones' Tash]

Hopefully we don't see any increase at all, think individual ticket prices should remain in the range of £20-£25 and a season ticket should come out on average £2-£5 cheaper than that, so £414-£529 but would lean towards the cheaper side, just think football tickets aren't something that you can really justify increasing "because, inflation".

I don't think it would be "because, inflation"

The justification will be, "I bought a club losing millions of pounds a year and need to reduce those losses"

It's part of making the club more sustainable, which everyone says they want....

There are other ways to reduce costs/increase revenues without milking fans, the only nation that seems to have worked this out is Germany.

Agreed - but we aren't 50% fan owned...

We're in the EFL with its broken model...

I'm just stating the obvious which is that the putative new owner isn't a Wealthy Fan who doesn't care about money, but a moderately rich American, part of a Group that is looking to make a profit from the purchase...

I'll be amazed if optimising fan revenue isn't one of the pillars of their strategy to reduce losses...

[tidus_mi2]

I don't think it would be "because, inflation"

The justification will be, "I bought a club losing millions of pounds a year and need to reduce those losses"

It's part of making the club more sustainable, which everyone says they want....

There are other ways to reduce costs/increase revenues without milking fans, the only nation that seems to have worked this out is Germany.

Agreed - but we aren't 50% fan owned...

We're in the EFL with its broken model...

I'm just stating the obvious which is that the putative new owner isn't a Wealthy Fan who doesn't care about money, but a moderately rich American, part of a Group that is looking to make a profit from the purchase...

I'll be amazed if optimising fan revenue isn't one of the pillars of their strategy to reduce losses...

You're probably right and I'd find it very disappointing. Do understand that if we don't go for competitive ticket pricing, we're basically just handicapping ourselves, it's just a frustrating situation all around.

[Silver Fox]

Given the club financials, I'm gonna guess an overhaul in pricing - with the equivalent of a significant increase in ticket prices.

I reckon the days of subsidised STs are gone...

Who's getting a subsidised ST?

Only thing that was ever subsidised was the bus (good job Mr Dai) which I'd love to see Rob do again

[Esteban]

For reference, Wrexham put their ticket prices up when they were bought and have done consistently, albeit in small increments since. And they've got all the other revenue streams that we don't have to fall back on.

[retro royal]

Just came back from Hamburg and tickets weren't as cheap as I thought they'd be, this is for this weekend, albeit a big game for a second division side https://www.hsv.de/fileadmin/user_uploa ... 025_05.jpg . Does seem the incentive over season tickets to day tickets is much larger than here.

Football fans have been paying £20 a ticket for years, In 2000 cinema tickets were around £4 now your lucky if £10 gets you in, price of a pint 2000 £2 now £6. I personally wouldn't mind paying ~700 for a season ticket for league 1, but I'm older now, have a bit more cash < 25's probably don't have that sort of cash.

Guess it's tough for clubs, increase prices people stop coming easy to get live feeds, guess we need to improve the whole experience, the purple turtle stage etc seems good, not seen it personally.

The growth in grass roots football doesn't surprise me, you still get the match day experience for a half the price, get your dodgy burgers and a drink, get a pint in a local after the game, and the club cuts it's cloth as SJM used to say.

Something has to change as clubs like ours can't continue to lose millions.

[Linden Jones' Tash]

Given the club financials, I'm gonna guess an overhaul in pricing - with the equivalent of a significant increase in ticket prices.

I reckon the days of subsidised STs are gone...

Who's getting a subsidised ST?

Only thing that was ever subsidised was the bus (good job Mr Dai) which I'd love to see Rob do again

Take a look at the financials....

Loss making businesses by definition subsidise their customers....

[Brogue]

Just came back from Hamburg and tickets weren't as cheap as I thought they'd be, this is for this weekend, albeit a big game for a second division side https://www.hsv.de/fileadmin/user_uploa ... 025_05.jpg . Does seem the incentive over season tickets to day tickets is much larger than here.

Football fans have been paying £20 a ticket for years, In 2000 cinema tickets were around £4 now your lucky if £10 gets you in, price of a pint 2000 £2 now £6. I personally wouldn't mind paying ~700 for a season ticket for league 1, but I'm older now, have a bit more cash < 25's probably don't have that sort of cash.

Guess it's tough for clubs, increase prices people stop coming easy to get live feeds, guess we need to improve the whole experience, the purple turtle stage etc seems good, not seen it personally.

The growth in grass roots football doesn't surprise me, you still get the match day experience for a half the price, get your dodgy burgers and a drink, get a pint in a local after the game, and the club cuts it's cloth as SJM used to say.

Something has to change as clubs like ours can't continue to lose millions.

Lol what? You’d be happy to pay £700 to watch league one football? I think you’d be a minority of one on that. No one would pay £700 for a season ticket I’d scoff at paying that to watch premier league football.

[The Royal Forester]

OOC players will want a pay rise, I assume, fees paid for o new ones? I think 10-15% increase will go only part way to fund this, but can't see a bigger increase, even though RC will want to be more profit making or at least losing less.

[katweslowski]

This is a ridiculous suggestion probably and obviously not feasible to do. But it would be great to have set season ticket prices which are reasonable, but with the option where some could pay more, with the idea being that there's an afforrdability aspect. With STAR and the Club ensuring that the extra funds would go directly into club facilities, like matchday improvements, stadium refurbishments, etc.

For example, I could afford to pay more and would pay more for this. A bit like when peopel were asking if you'd fund a Phoenix club. I would happily fund the club, particularly after the crisis that it looks like we're coming out of.

[Dirk Gently]

This is a ridiculous suggestion probably and obviously not feasible to do. But it would be great to have set season ticket prices which are reasonable, but with the option where some could pay more, with the idea being that there's an afforrdability aspect. With STAR and the Club ensuring that the extra funds would go directly into club facilities, like matchday improvements, stadium refurbishments, etc.

For example, I could afford to pay more and would pay more for this. A bit like when peopel were asking if you'd fund a Phoenix club. I would happily fund the club, particularly after the crisis that it looks like we're coming out of.

That's a reasonable idea, and is close to what the old Supporters Clubs (here and elsewhere) used to do - simply raise money to improve facilities and just hand it over to the club for this, with nothing given except short-term thanks. The end result is that you're raising money to enhance an asset owned by someone who might turn out to be a toxic chairman.

IMHO it's much better if fans money went to giving fans a greater share/stake in the club than just being customers on a database - money raised, even if spent on facilities that also benefit fans, should either stay under fan ownership if practical, or should be handed over in exchange for representation or a shareholding, no matter how small.

This idea of "we want something back for the money we put into the club" was one of the founding principles of the Supporters' Trust movement.