MATCHWATCH : Wigan Athletic (h)

[MR. CYNICAL]

Coming round yet Brogue?

Today was the first game we played well from start to finish (bar maybe an icky spell for the first 15 mins of the second half) under him. If we continue to put performances like that, week in week out, yes of course. Still don’t like him mind but that’s by the bye.

Think the fact that Wigan were woeful had a part to play with that, definitely the worse team we've had here all season although, saying that, they did have a goal disallowed and played better in the second half than we did last week, as poor as they were.

[WestYorksRoyal]

Coming round yet Brogue?

Today was the first game we played well from start to finish (bar maybe an icky spell for the first 15 mins of the second half) under him. If we continue to put performances like that, week in week out, yes of course. Still don’t like him mind but that’s by the bye.

Think the fact that Wigan were woeful had a part to play with that, definitely the worse team we've had here all season although, saying that, they did have a goal disallowed and played better in the second half than we did last week, as poor as they were.

[WestYorksRoyal]

Coming round yet Brogue?

Today was the first game we played well from start to finish (bar maybe an icky spell for the first 15 mins of the second half) under him. If we continue to put performances like that, week in week out, yes of course. Still don’t like him mind but that’s by the bye.

Think the fact that Wigan were woeful had a part to play with that, definitely the worse team we've had here all season although, saying that, they did have a goal disallowed and played better in the second half than we did last week, as poor as they were.

As has already been pointed out by another poster, we've let many poor teams drag us down to their level this season. It's nice just to sweep a them aside for once.

[leon]

This team demonstrated what it can do if it plays positive football. I thought we were having a typical second half but managed to pull ourselves out of a self induced hole to score the 3rd.

Wigan really were poor but when has that stopped us from gifting teams goals.

[MR. CYNICAL]

This team demonstrated what it can do if it plays positive football. I thought we were having a typical second half but managed to pull ourselves out of a self induced hole to score the 3rd.

Wigan really were poor but when has that stopped us from gifting teams goals.

Won't say we played positive football, it's the one thing that annoys me, we play like the away side at home, as poor as they were, they still had more possession than us and more touches in our box than we had in theirs.

[leon]

This team demonstrated what it can do if it plays positive football. I thought we were having a typical second half but managed to pull ourselves out of a self induced hole to score the 3rd.

Wigan really were poor but when has that stopped us from gifting teams goals.

Won't say we played positive football, it's the one thing that annoys me, we play like the away side at home, as poor as they were, they still had more possession than us and more touches in our box than we had in theirs.

we were looking to get the ball forward quickly down the channels. That's more positive than our usual ponderous triangles in our own half getting closer and closer to our goal in order for Pareira to overhit to a striker that is marked by 3 players, that we reverted to for 15 mins in the second half.

I'm not suggesting it was perfect, far from it. There was still the compulsion to play backwards rather than look for a forward pass. Wing surpassed himself with a back pass to Pareira from the Wigan half. But we played with more intent.

[MR. CYNICAL]

This team demonstrated what it can do if it plays positive football. I thought we were having a typical second half but managed to pull ourselves out of a self induced hole to score the 3rd.

Wigan really were poor but when has that stopped us from gifting teams goals.

Won't say we played positive football, it's the one thing that annoys me, we play like the away side at home, as poor as they were, they still had more possession than us and more touches in our box than we had in theirs.

we were looking to get the ball forward quickly down the channels. That's more positive than our usual ponderous triangles in our own half getting closer and closer to our goal in order for Pareira to overhit to a striker that is marked by 3 players, that we reverted to for 15 mins in the second half.

I'm not suggesting it was perfect, far from it. There was still the compulsion to play backwards rather than look for a forward pass. Wing surpassed himself with a back pass to Pareira from the Wigan half. But we played with more intent.

Admittedly we played less pointlesss long balls from the back and did put together one or two nice moves through the midfield, just think that was because they were so bad that we were able to.
Guess the next two games will be the ultimate test of where we are.
Still frustrates me that no one in midfield can pick the ball up and drive forward with it.

[leon]

Won't say we played positive football, it's the one thing that annoys me, we play like the away side at home, as poor as they were, they still had more possession than us and more touches in our box than we had in theirs.

we were looking to get the ball forward quickly down the channels. That's more positive than our usual ponderous triangles in our own half getting closer and closer to our goal in order for Pareira to overhit to a striker that is marked by 3 players, that we reverted to for 15 mins in the second half.

I'm not suggesting it was perfect, far from it. There was still the compulsion to play backwards rather than look for a forward pass. Wing surpassed himself with a back pass to Pareira from the Wigan half. But we played with more intent.

Admittedly we played less pointlesss long balls from the back and did put together one or two nice moves through the midfield, just think that was because they were so bad that we were able to.
Guess the next two games will be the ultimate test of where we are.
Still frustrates me that no one in midfield can pick the ball up and drive forward with it.

Yes I absolutely agree with all of that.

[morganb]

Never did grow much did he? Still looks tiny

I think he's bulked up considerably.

For the short time he was on he looked really impressive.....as you say bigger, confident, looking for space, playing more centrally, and prepared to have a decent shot.......

Begs the question - why did Vickers start on the bench? Seems to be fairly standard for him

[Hound]

I think he's bulked up considerably.

For the short time he was on he looked really impressive.....as you say bigger, confident, looking for space, playing more centrally, and prepared to have a decent shot.......

Begs the question - why did Vickers start on the bench? Seems to be fairly standard for him

Did he move there permanently? Tbf think he ended on the bench at Mansfield at Barnsley as well. Not that young now either

He did look good though, their biggest threat

[windermereROYAL]

Wigan were the worse team I`ve seen this season down here by some distance.

I also thought C1871 were very good today.

[WestYorksRoyal]

They had 11 points from 6 coming into today. They're not mugs.

[MR. CYNICAL]

Wigan were the worse team I`ve seen this season down here by some distance.

I also thought C1871 were very good today.

Didn't even realise it was Vickers that came on.
Just wish C1871 stopped the stupid 'calling out' whenever the opposition take a corner, especially when the ball is clearly not outside the quadrant.

[MR. CYNICAL]

They had 11 points from 6 coming into today. They're not mugs.

They were today.

[windermereROYAL]

Wigan were the worse team I`ve seen this season down here by some distance.

I also thought C1871 were very good today.

Didn't even realise it was Vickers that came on.
Just wish C1871 stopped the stupid 'calling out' whenever the opposition take a corner, especially when the ball is clearly not outside the quadrant.

Yes agree with you on that corner kick shit, but the lino on the halfway line should have a good enough view to advise the ref on that.

[Clyde1998]

Feel 3-0 flattered us tbh.

Positive to see more wing play today, probably helped by the return of Kyerewaa (which was unexpected). Roberts also returning is a boost.

Ehibhatiomhan getting a couple of goals was good. I think he's improved a lot as a striker since James Beattie has come in. He's up to nine league goals this season now, with one every 190 minutes. That's a good record at this level, particularly given he's played as a wide attacker for sizeable chunks of the season.

Doyle going off at half-time is concerning, especially as he's started to get an end product (has he simply successfully gelled with the players around him now?). It was a fantastic ball to Savage for our second.

I didn't think Wigan were too bad. They spent too much time overplaying, but their disallowed goal was very well worked. I think our quick start demoralised them.

[Snowflake Royal]

Feel 3-0 flattered us tbh.

Positive to see more wing play today, probably helped by the return of Kyerewaa (which was unexpected). Roberts also returning is a boost.

Ehibhatiomhan getting a couple of goals was good. I think he's improved a lot as a striker since James Beattie has come in. He's up to nine league goals this season now, with one every 190 minutes. That's a good record at this level, particularly given he's played as a wide attacker for sizeable chunks of the season.

Doyle going off at half-time is concerning, especially as he's started to get an end product (has he simply successfully gelled with the players around him now?). It was a fantastic ball to Savage for our second.

I didn't think Wigan were too bad. They spent too much time overplaying, but their disallowed goal was very well worked. I think our quick start demoralised them.

Lots of very basic errors from them, and first half they gave us the freedom of the pitch.

Early goal certainly hurt them, and later on they looked like a team in a bit of shambles with a fair amount of histrionics, especially the guy up top. Which is a bit surprising given the recent form. But then they’re down there only 2 points from relegation for a reason.

[Vision]

This team demonstrated what it can do if it plays positive football. I thought we were having a typical second half but managed to pull ourselves out of a self induced hole to score the 3rd.

Wigan really were poor but when has that stopped us from gifting teams goals.

Won't say we played positive football, it's the one thing that annoys me, we play like the away side at home, as poor as they were, they still had more possession than us and more touches in our box than we had in theirs.

we were looking to get the ball forward quickly down the channels. That's more positive than our usual ponderous triangles in our own half getting closer and closer to our goal in order for Pareira to overhit to a striker that is marked by 3 players, that we reverted to for 15 mins in the second half.

I'm not suggesting it was perfect, far from it. There was still the compulsion to play backwards rather than look for a forward pass. Wing surpassed himself with a back pass to Pareira from the Wigan half. But we played with more intent.

The backwards and sideways isn’t an issue for me as long as we do it quickly. What I can’t stand, and what’s gets us in trouble, is the 3/4 touches go back then 3/4 touches go sideways then repeat. It makes it so easy to press us. Today we moved the ball much quicker. Also I don’t think Wing picked up the ball as deep as usual, certainly not as often and most teams strategy against us is to press the back 4 and shut down Wing.

I much prefer Doyle more central but he is a good outlet on the right to bypass midfield if we need to. Hopefully his injury isn’t too serious.

I thought Wigan started and ended both halves pretty well but Derek Williams was magnificent and in Nyambe there’s finally a full back that tries to cut out crosses.

It was a good performance against a limited team but in good form.

Plenty to be optimistic about in my opinion

[Hound]

Feel 3-0 flattered us tbh.

Positive to see more wing play today, probably helped by the return of Kyerewaa (which was unexpected). Roberts also returning is a boost.

Ehibhatiomhan getting a couple of goals was good. I think he's improved a lot as a striker since James Beattie has come in. He's up to nine league goals this season now, with one every 190 minutes. That's a good record at this level, particularly given he's played as a wide attacker for sizeable chunks of the season.

Doyle going off at half-time is concerning, especially as he's started to get an end product (has he simply successfully gelled with the players around him now?). It was a fantastic ball to Savage for our second.

I didn't think Wigan were too bad. They spent too much time overplaying, but their disallowed goal was very well worked. I think our quick start demoralised them.

Lots of very basic errors from them, and first half they gave us the freedom of the pitch.

Early goal certainly hurt them, and later on they looked like a team in a bit of shambles with a fair amount of histrionics, especially the guy up top. Which is a bit surprising given the recent form. But then they’re down there only 2 points from relegation for a reason.

They were horrendous first half

Not so bad second half and threatened a bit when Vickers came on but game had long gone by that stage

We still had a few more pretty clear chances that we missed - Dorsett and KE headers, DK first half, which would have added even more to our goals total. Plus a few half chances for KE and Savage/Keane

It could very easily have been 5+

[windermereROYAL]

Feel 3-0 flattered us tbh.

Positive to see more wing play today, probably helped by the return of Kyerewaa (which was unexpected). Roberts also returning is a boost.

Ehibhatiomhan getting a couple of goals was good. I think he's improved a lot as a striker since James Beattie has come in. He's up to nine league goals this season now, with one every 190 minutes. That's a good record at this level, particularly given he's played as a wide attacker for sizeable chunks of the season.

Doyle going off at half-time is concerning, especially as he's started to get an end product (has he simply successfully gelled with the players around him now?). It was a fantastic ball to Savage for our second.

I didn't think Wigan were too bad. They spent too much time overplaying, but their disallowed goal was very well worked. I think our quick start demoralised them.

Flattered us? what game were you watching? we were well worth 3-0 if not more, Wigan hardly laid a finger on us, the disallowed goal seemed harsh because he wasn`t in front of the keeper and the late save was just about it from them.