QPR showed (like we have) that you don't need a lot of quality to be near the top. Good work ethic, tactics and management can get you up there. They've had a great week to be fair to them, 3 straight wins.
Frustrating tonight. We weren't completely at it, the moment they changed to 3 centre backs to match our formation and they were all over us really. Onwards and upwards and let's beat West Brom next week.

Haven't seen the game but some of the comments on here seem harsh.

Narrowly beaten away from home by a team flying.
We have a week off now to prepare for WBA. Was the Hutchinson injury bad?

Wouldn't say harsh, we weren't at our best tonight and were well beaten. We could have lost that by more and I'd have not complained.

Happened in front of us. He simply sat down on the ground with nobody around him so didn't look the direct result of a challenge. Looked to be lower leg injury. Walked off unassisted around the edge of the pitch after being attended to

Wouldn't say harsh, we weren't at our best tonight and were well beaten. We could have lost that by more and I'd have not complained.
Their pen looked soft although we got away with one in the first half.

Happened in front of us. He simply sat down on the ground with nobody around him so didn't look the direct result of a challenge. Looked to be lower leg injury. Walked off unassisted around the edge of the pitch after being attended to

Hopefully not too bad then.

Hutchinson should be fine for next week

Wouldn't say harsh, we weren't at our best tonight and were well beaten. We could have lost that by more and I'd have not complained.

Absolute bollocks. We were quiet first half but hardly under the cosh and competed much better second half. QPR got a penalty and that was it.
Carroll and Joao isn’t working. I’m thinking Carroll knocks it down to Joao who scores. But Joao never seems to be there. And there’s no out ball when we need it.

Wouldn't say harsh, we weren't at our best tonight and were well beaten. We could have lost that by more and I'd have not complained.

Absolute bollocks. We were quiet first half but hardly under the cosh and competed much better second half. QPR got a penalty and that was it.
Carroll and Joao isn’t working. I’m thinking Carroll knocks it down to Joao who scores. But Joao never seems to be there. And there’s no out ball when we need it.
Fully expected us to play just one up front. Think we need an extra midfielder against the better sides

Absolute bollocks. We were quiet first half but hardly under the cosh and competed much better second half. QPR got a penalty and that was it.
Carroll and Joao isn’t working. I’m thinking Carroll knocks it down to Joao who scores. But Joao never seems to be there. And there’s no out ball when we need it.
Fully expected us to play just one up front. Think we need an extra midfielder against the better sides

Yeah, but we were playing QPR. Play 2 up but get them to play together.
Why Ince didn’t bring on Meite. As with Tuesday the game was crying out for a player who could run at them - take the game to them. I’m baffled why Ince seemingly doesn’t like Meite.

Fully expected us to play just one up front. Think we need an extra midfielder against the better sides

Yeah, but we were playing QPR. Play 2 up but get them to play together.
Why Ince didn’t bring on Meite. As with Tuesday the game was crying out for a player who could run at them - take the game to them. I’m baffled why Ince seemingly doesn’t like Meite.

Meite isn't fully fit

Fully expected us to play just one up front. Think we need an extra midfielder against the better sides

Yeah, but we were playing QPR. Play 2 up but get them to play together.
Why Ince didn’t bring on Meite. As with Tuesday the game was crying out for a player who could run at them - take the game to them. I’m baffled why Ince seemingly doesn’t like Meite.

His subs were spot on Tuesday night but were poor tonight. Carroll was shot after 70, and Joao should have been hooked sooner for another poor display
As soon as QPR reverted to a back three/five was the opportunity to get Meite and Ince on and really press from the front but we dropped deeper and deeper and the winner was inevitable. As much as we lament the sloppy challenge by Loum, the goal was coming with or without the challenge
Must say as much as Ince has worked miracles this season, getting a little weary of listening to him complain about fixture congestion and tiredness. He has five subs to use each game yet never uses more than 3 (on one occasion he’s used more than 3, a 98th minute time wasting sub against Wigan). Given the option we now have and some of the positions we’ve been in this season (3/4 goal drubbings) there’s been ample opportunity to make more subs. It makes him look massively hypocritical

It’s one of those games that if we’d held out for a 1-1, this place would have been full of praise for a battling performance and an impressive second half display
1 set of mistakes and the pen conceded changes the complexion
I didn’t really see the goal coming at all tbh, thought the game had died a bit and was heading for a 1-1
In the context of the team we are I thought it was fairly encouraging
Agree about Meite but where do we fit him? Maybe up top with Carroll and drop Joao? But I prefer Carroll/ince as a pair and wouldn’t be too keen on Meite further back in this set up

Err…. I said? Bring him on as a sub. Rotate the strikers. Gives us a different attacking option when defence is tiring. It’s not difficult.

Err…. I said? Bring him on as a sub. Rotate the strikers. Gives us a different attacking option when defence is tiring. It’s not difficult.

Would mean bringing off Carroll though - thought he was always our most likely option to grab something
Ince for Joao was the obvs swap. You could have maybe brought ince to the midfield and paired Meite and Carroll - but think ince is best at 10
There were options obvs but none that really would have made us better imo at the time

Err…. I said? Bring him on as a sub. Rotate the strikers. Gives us a different attacking option when defence is tiring. It’s not difficult.

Would mean bringing off Carroll though - thought he was always our most likely option to grab something
Ince for Joao was the obvs swap. You could have maybe brought ince to the midfield and paired Meite and Carroll - but think ince is best at 10
There were options obvs but none that really would have made us better imo at the time

Carroll was knackered and offering aerial threat only. Meite would have run at them. Front 3 need to be rotated. Especially in a period with so many games.
Joao and Carroll hasn’t worked thus far. It’s an odd one.

I watched the game on Sky and thought that we did okay but the better side won. I’ll take a narrow defeat in this league against a decent team.
At the beginning of the season I wrote down a target of 16 wins plus 6 or 7 draws and so far the team have exceeded my expectations. I am expecting it to be another freak season like when Posh got relegated with 54 points.
I don’t know about anyone else but I still think that we could well end up battling at the wrong end of the table so I haven’t got over excited about our great start.

Listened to the first half and it sounded early doors like we re going to concede a goal.
Then the Hutch substitution swung it round, perversely, towards us. Saw someone posted the pen kick by AC2 on Twitter, well taken kick.
It seems like every time we play the Fakes, Dykes always scores against us. I said to senior in first half, someone needs to break his leg or head or both. He said to me he was a quality player, to which I responded, 'can't be that good, otherwise Scotland would be at the world cup'.

Either way, I had a feeling we were going to lose, but I hoped we would win. Hopefully we can turn the screw on Brucey and Ron next weekend. It would be nice to win against the Albion.

With tough away games to come we could do with a Brucie bonus next weekend

Wouldn't say harsh, we weren't at our best tonight and were well beaten. We could have lost that by more and I'd have not complained.

Absolute bollocks. We were quiet first half but hardly under the cosh and competed much better second half. QPR got a penalty and that was it.
Carroll and Joao isn’t working. I’m thinking Carroll knocks it down to Joao who scores. But Joao never seems to be there. And there’s no out ball when we need it.

Because Joao is simply not interested, time to ship out.

Not a bad performance at all and another difficult away game out of the way.
I thought Chair ran the show and Hendrick was nowhere near as effective as he has been in the previous two home games.

Fornah and Loum broke up play quite a lot but we lack a Swift or a Chair to create more chances-we create very little but our conversion rate is really good.

Maybe Ejaria will recapture the form that he showed in those early days with us.
I agree with URRZZZ that Ince (and other managers) go on a bit too much about the number of fixtures.

Not many of ours go off on international duty so most have just had 2 weeks off and we don't play many first teamers in the League Cup.
Just over a quarter of the season gone and our position is way above any of our expectations and I will still be content to see us just stay up-the idea of promotion is unlikely and, at the moment, a frightening prospect.

Honestly couldn’t care what the managers say or do after a game
5 mins after a disappointing finish and result, natural reaction just to pick an obvious excuse to help deflect blame on him or the players

What about before a game?

It was good to hear the reasoning behind why son Tom wasn't a starter or don't you care about that either?.

What if he had told us that Hutchinson will be out for the season-still wouldn't care about that?
I always want to hear what the manager has to say as I continue to be interested in hearing anything to do with our club.

These management complaints about fixture congestion drives me up the wall. All teams are going through the same schedule. They should focus on building the fitness of their squad.
Players are paid an insane amount of money so they should just get on with it.

What about before a game?

It was good to hear the reasoning behind why son Tom wasn't a starter or don't you care about that either?.

What if he had told us that Hutchinson will be out for the season-still wouldn't care about that?
I always want to hear what the manager has to say as I continue to be interested in hearing anything to do with our club.

You know what I mean Vic. The instant reactions to games and people getting upset by the excuses they make or silly things they say about the ref
Of course I’m interested in injuries and when things have calmed and they talk about decisions they make

Doesn’t matter how much money you have you still get knackered!
No good us moaning about them moaning because they’ll keep doing it regardless so just like them, we should just crack on and get on with it

For all the criticism of Joao recently he did win the penalty for us with his quick footwork (good touch for a big man as they say :wink: ).

Unfortunately the pairing of him and Carroll doesn't work too well and as the season goes on and, as always with us subject to fitness, I can see Shane Long playing in a two with either Joao or with Carroll for whole games or parts of games.
A slightly younger Jamie Cureton or a Le Fondre could have performed that role even better.

Went down for this one & have to say it was a great game to watch…high tempo, end to end, gritty, bite between the fans, some cracking tackles.
We have a team of fighters & more than matched them for large periods, although on balance they prob edged it. It was all about the midfield. They bossed it on the whole in the 1st half, but we had control for the majority of the 2nd until Loum made that silly foul.
Ince clearly set out a team to counter QPR but we did lack creativity.
I thought Holmes & TMac were excellent. Holmes has really grown as a player and he looks confident now. TMac’s distribution was very good.
Funny game from Loum. He was excellent in spells but then that was such a blatant penalty to concede & then he lost his head completely after that.
Fornah I was disappointed by, he looked a yard off the pace. I’d have hauled him off at HT for either Ince or Ejaria.
Carroll’s touch is a level about…clear to see he has the brain of a Prem player. Doesn’t really work with Joao though, would’ve been more effective with T Ince & probably even Meite.
QPR are a decent side. Their 1st was a great cross & finish.
Deflating train ride back up to Notts afterwards, but worth the trip overall

Who was the player we had at the start of the season?!

He was excellent until he fcuked up for the pen

Agree. Was a level above both Fornah & Hendrick until that last 10. Unfortunately he’s cost us the game with that stupid tackle though